Michigan State Basketball 2024-25

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just back from Niagra... hot take: Booker is a 4 year guy, will be coming off the bench by Big Ten. Fiddler may be too.

Much better game than Monmouth.  Kohler was out of control.  In a good way.

I think the starters will remain the same all year.  I could see Zapala not starting vs. smaller line ups, but he's been surprising.  Cooper seems to be struggling.  Maybe the mask really bugs him.  Richardson is very composed.

Rick Saunders wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:





You aren’t? It’s a big deal!

My guess is that Willis will have a better NBA career than NCAA.

KW is also a successful haberdasher.

NigelUno wrote:

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just back from Niagra... hot take: Booker is a 4 year guy, will be coming off the bench by Big Ten. Fiddler may be too.

Much better game than Monmouth.  Kohler was out of control.  In a good way.

I think the starters will remain the same all year.  I could see Zapala not starting vs. smaller line ups, but he's been surprising.  Cooper seems to be struggling.  Maybe the mask really bugs him.  Richardson is very composed.

The way Cooper hit the floor I was sure he’d broken everything on that side of his body. He’s probably sore as hell today but getting up that quick and brushing it off was impressive.

Going to the game on Tuesday. I think we’re gonna have to hit a bunch of threes to beat Kansas.

On a positive note... Someone must have officially banned or requested limited or no use of cell phones in the Izzone. The kids were jumping yesterday. All into the game, all doing the little dances and whatnot. Of course it might be early season excitement, but not once did it look like previous seasons of 75% of them scrolling.

NigelUno wrote:

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just back from Niagra... hot take: Booker is a 4 year guy, will be coming off the bench by Big Ten. Fiddler may be too.

Much better game than Monmouth.  Kohler was out of control.  In a good way.

I think the starters will remain the same all year.  I could see Zapala not starting vs. smaller line ups, but he's been surprising.  Cooper seems to be struggling.  Maybe the mask really bugs him.  Richardson is very composed.

So much depth in the 1-3 spots.

Agree on Richardson he had no problem driving on their bigs. I love Fears push and determination. He does have some Cleaves in him too. Holloman has proven he is more then capable. Akins is showing flashes of what he could be. And Teng is an after thought that is the most consistent from 3....

Really the only "weakness" I do see is Booker's D if he is going to be out there....(it would be different if he was averaging 25/game, but he isn't)
Kohler is the man so far... even when he misses those bunnies he should be draining, he went right back up and got his own rebound more then once which is new.
Cooper is Cooper. Zapala is a pleasant surprise. How does a 7 footer that looks the part in a high D1 rotation sit the bench at Longwood?

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just back from Niagra... hot take: Booker is a 4 year guy, will be coming off the bench by Big Ten. Fiddler may be too.

Did I hear right? Is he making about 1 million a year? why leave? work on your game, enjhoy the money if that's the case. Much more than hed' get in the development league.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Much better game than Monmouth.  Kohler was out of control.  In a good way.

I think the starters will remain the same all year.  I could see Zapala not starting vs. smaller line ups, but he's been surprising.  Cooper seems to be struggling.  Maybe the mask really bugs him.  Richardson is very composed.

So much depth in the 1-3 spots.

Agree on Richardson he had no problem driving on their bigs. I love Fears push and determination. He does have some Cleaves in him too. Holloman has proven he is more then capable. Akins is showing flashes of what he could be. And Teng is an after thought that is the most consistent from 3....

Really the only "weakness" I do see is Booker's D if he is going to be out there....(it would be different if he was averaging 25/game, but he isn't)
Kohler is the man so far... even when he misses those bunnies he should be draining, he went right back up and got his own rebound more then once which is new.
Cooper is Cooper. Zapala is a pleasant surprise. How does a 7 footer that looks the part in a high D1 rotation sit the bench at Longwood?

I forgot about Akins. He had a good game. Seems like he suffers from a lack of confidence at times, but I could be misreading that. Fears has no fear. If he can drive the lane successfully, we're going to have a very good year.

DWags wrote:

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Just back from Niagra... hot take: Booker is a 4 year guy, will be coming off the bench by Big Ten. Fiddler may be too.

Did I hear right? Is he making about 1 million a year? why leave? work on your game, enjhoy the money if that's the case. Much more than hed' get in the development league.

My point being, he's closer to a Torbert 5 star then a JJJ 5 star. He's got a lot to work on, Mostly between the ears. At this point, I'm wondering if he will be the first college kid to get a NIL pay cut. I'm positive you can find 2 serviceable (acceptable D and 10pt/game) 6'8" or 6'9" guys for (probably less than) $500k. Shit, Niagara had 2 that Ishbia could have hired in the parking lot.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

DWags wrote:

Did I hear right? Is he making about 1 million a year? why leave? work on your game, enjhoy the money if that's the case. Much more than hed' get in the development league.

My point being, he's closer to a Torbert 5 star then a JJJ 5 star. He's got a lot to work on, Mostly between the ears. At this point, I'm wondering if he will be the first college kid to get a NIL pay cut. I'm positive you can find 2 serviceable (acceptable D and 10pt/game) 6'8" or 6'9" guys for (probably less than) $500k. Shit, Niagara had 2 that Ishbia could have hired in the parking lot.

Nah, I want X coached by Tom. Booker’s potential is all there, he just needs time with TI to become a crazy good player.

tGreenWay wrote:

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

My point being, he's closer to a Torbert 5 star then a JJJ 5 star. He's got a lot to work on, Mostly between the ears. At this point, I'm wondering if he will be the first college kid to get a NIL pay cut. I'm positive you can find 2 serviceable (acceptable D and 10pt/game) 6'8" or 6'9" guys for (probably less than) $500k. Shit, Niagara had 2 that Ishbia could have hired in the parking lot.

Nah, I want X coached by Tom. Booker’s potential is all there, he just needs time with TI to become a crazy good player.

See: Payne, Adreian. RIP

I remember when people were calling him a miss. But by second half of his junior year he found "IT".

gomersbro wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:


Nah, I want X coached by Tom. Booker’s potential is all there, he just needs time with TI to become a crazy good player.

See: Payne, Adreian. RIP

I remember when people were calling him a miss. But by second half of his junior year he found "IT".

IIRC, AP was also hampered by asthma or some other breathing problem. Between TI’s coaching and getting AP’s stamina up, he became a true force. I really miss that guy.

gomersbro wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:


Nah, I want X coached by Tom. Booker’s potential is all there, he just needs time with TI to become a crazy good player.

See: Payne, Adreian. RIP

I remember when people were calling him a miss. But by second half of his junior year he found "IT".

Same with Suton, Naymick, Nix and Costello. ( I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple more) So yes there is a solid history of bigs getting better. I just wish DJ was still here to coach Booker.

Assignment for all is to scout Kansas right now. Playing UNC.

duffy munn wrote:

gomersbro wrote:

See: Payne, Adreian. RIP

I remember when people were calling him a miss. But by second half of his junior year he found "IT".

Same with Suton, Naymick, Nix and Costello. ( I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple more) So yes there is a solid history of bigs getting better. I just wish DJ was still here to coach Booker.

No, I get that... but some former posters... ahem..., and others, going off like he was a 1 and done and would leave msu in a heartbeat if he wasn't the featured player couldn't have been more off the mark.

At least we don't have problems like this...

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NigelUno wrote:Assignment for all is to scout Kansas right now. Playing UNC.

Kansas is incredible. AJ Storr and Flory Bidunga both coming off the bench. They will pound the ball down low against us. Not to mention little dick still playing for them. It won't be pretty on Tuesday.

NigelUno wrote:At least we don't have problems like this...

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Or this…

https://apnews.com/article/6e17bdf666045aaefaece806135e4658

From the Twitter

AJ Hoggard in his Vanderbilt debut:

27 Points
9-13 FG
6-8 3PT
4 AST
ZERO Turnovers

DWags wrote:
From the Twitter

AJ Hoggard in his Vanderbilt debut:

27 Points
9-13 FG
6-8 3PT
4 AST
ZERO Turnovers

Twitter is full of lies.
11 pts, 0-6 from 3. They barely beat southwest Missouri state.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

DWags wrote:
From the Twitter

AJ Hoggard in his Vanderbilt debut:

27 Points
9-13 FG
6-8 3PT
4 AST
ZERO Turnovers

Twitter is full of lies.
11 pts, 0-6 from 3. They barely beat southwest Missouri state.

Thank god.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

DWags wrote:
From the Twitter

AJ Hoggard in his Vanderbilt debut:

27 Points
9-13 FG
6-8 3PT
4 AST
ZERO Turnovers

Twitter is full of lies.
11 pts, 0-6 from 3. They barely beat southwest Missouri state.

2-11 on FGs. Also didn't start, which may be a 1 game thing (no idea).

Good Luck to him though.

Hoggard wasn't consistent for us. Sometimes he could take over a game and get to the basket at will. Other times he was a space cadet. I like Fears as a pass first PG. Hopefully Fears develops a shot over his 4 years.

Green money wrote:

NigelUno wrote:Assignment for all is to scout Kansas right now. Playing UNC.

Kansas is incredible. AJ Storr and Flory Bidunga both coming off the bench. They will pound the ball down low against us. Not to mention little dick still playing for them. It won't be pretty on Tuesday.

Push the ball, hit some 3s, play tough defense, don't turn the ball over.

NigelUno wrote:

Green money wrote:Kansas is incredible. AJ Storr and Flory Bidunga both coming off the bench. They will pound the ball down low against us. Not to mention little dick still playing for them. It won't be pretty on Tuesday.

Push the ball, hit some 3s, play tough defense, don't turn the ball over.

I really wish we still had Walker. His career was wasted on bad teams. Although who knows if this team will be any better than the last 4 years. They need to light a fire under Booker. Call his mom names or something.

Green money wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Push the ball, hit some 3s, play tough defense, don't turn the ball over.

I really wish we still had Walker. His career was wasted on bad teams. Although who knows if this team will be any better than the last 4 years. They need to light a fire under Booker. Call his mom names or something.

Shocked I say, shocked, that you would think it's appropriate to degrade women.

Motown Spartan wrote:

Green money wrote:I really wish we still had Walker. His career was wasted on bad teams. Although who knows if this team will be any better than the last 4 years. They need to light a fire under Booker. Call his mom names or something.

Shocked I say, shocked, that you would think it's appropriate to degrade women.

Some shits not funny and I’d bet you a dollar to a donut he can’t figure out why. Kids watch how spouses treat each other. Tell me I’m wrong.

I am going to be in the area around Christmas. How does one go about getting tickets nowadays? I looked at MSU Spartans website for the Florida Atlantic and the Western games but all lower bowl tickets are sold out (except singles). Is there a secondary market website or something?

Thanks!

gomersbro wrote:I am going to be in the area around Christmas. How does one go about getting tickets nowadays? I looked at MSU Spartans website for the Florida Atlantic and the Western games but all lower bowl tickets are sold out (except singles). Is there a secondary market website or something?

Thanks!

Go to the QD on Lake Lansing Road and ask for today's fresh catch special. When the store clerk asks if you want salmon or walleye, say you want to speak to Chuck. Then go back the next morning to get the tickets.

gomersbro wrote:I am going to be in the area around Christmas. How does one go about getting tickets nowadays? I looked at MSU Spartans website for the Florida Atlantic and the Western games but all lower bowl tickets are sold out (except singles). Is there a secondary market website or something?

Thanks!

SeatGeek. I'd guess $125-150 for lower bowl right now. Wait it out.

Hunter Dickinson is this decade's Dallas Lauderdale.

Seems like he's been suiting up against MSU for 7 years.

GRR Spartan wrote:Hunter Dickinson is this decade's Dallas Lauderdale.

Seems like he's been suiting up against MSU for 7 years.

Brian Cardinal

GRR Spartan wrote:Hunter Dickinson is this decade's Dallas Lauderdale.

Seems like he's been suiting up against MSU for 7 years.

We know how to rattle him.

Fuck Rip Van Dickinson.

Without Walker, we can't score

See how Booker bricks, then floats back toward half court watching his shot? 6'11" with ZERO effort into rebounding. Ug.

kingstonlake wrote:Fuck Rip Van Dickinson.

Huntin for Dickskin can fuck right off.

Our starters are 3-18 for 6 pts in the first half. 1-11 from 3 as a team and we’re in this.

Holy shit our offense doesn’t exist.

Cooper as many pts as the starting 5.

DWags wrote:Our starters are 3-18 for 6 pts in the first half. 1-11 from 3 as a team and we’re in this.

Holy shit our offense doesn’t exist.

So many shots of the back of the rim. Then the crazy throw by Jace and the foul to keep us in it. Without Dickson and the other guy, Kansas is struggling.