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Post by Green money Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 19:49

What does Akins or Booker bring? Not much from what I see
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 20:27

Well, they hit even 30% 3 they would still be in the lead.
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Post by Green money Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 20:39

Akins and Booker absolutely sucked tonight.
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Post by InTenSity Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 20:44

Against the #1 ranked team we held our own. I haven't seen anything else this year but there's no reason we shouldn't be ranked.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 20:49

Definitely not outclassed... if those guys where #1.

Shoot even mediocre damn.
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Post by GRR Spartan Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 21:14

Green money wrote:What does Akins or Booker bring? Not much from what I see

Like your posts on The Swill.

Troll on mf’er
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Post by DWags Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 21:23

InTenSity wrote:Against the #1 ranked team we held our own. I haven't seen anything else this year but there's no reason we shouldn't be ranked.

Build on the positive. We hung around with the number one team in the nation while three of the guys that we count on really had off games. I really think this team is going to be OK.
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Post by Green money Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 22:45

GRR Spartan wrote:
Green money wrote:What does Akins or Booker bring? Not much from what I see

Like your posts on The Swill.

Troll on mf’er
so you accept the crap Booker and senior Akins bring? My how msu talent has fallen
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Post by NigelUno Tue 12 Nov 2024 - 23:27

Not sure what they showed on TV, but Dickinson taunted the MSU fans at least 4 times. Michigan State Basketball 2024-25 - Page 6 502811600

Kansas played pretty good defense, but if they're #1...we're gonna be OK.

Make some 3s and we win.

Fears needs to drive the lane more.

The floor was a joke. Players slipping everywhere.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 7:40

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Post by NigelUno Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 9:02

Green money wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:

Like your posts on The Swill.

Troll on mf’er
so you accept the crap Booker and senior Akins bring? My how msu talent has fallen

I think Booker sat the 2nd half. Not sure if you noticed.

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Post by Green money Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 14:22

NigelUno wrote:
Green money wrote:so you accept the crap Booker and senior Akins bring? My how msu talent has fallen

I think Booker sat the 2nd half. Not sure if you noticed.
Yes, I noticed he played 13 minutes total. I'd play him 12 minutes off the bench. Kohler plays harder and deserves most of front court minutes. I hope Akins got that bad game out of his system
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 17:06

Green money wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think Booker sat the 2nd half. Not sure if you noticed.
Yes, I noticed he played 13 minutes total. I'd play him 12 minutes off the bench. Kohler plays harder and deserves most of front court minutes. I hope Akins got that bad game out of his system



lol It’s always fun reading posts from randos on the internet who think they know more than a major college basketball coach. Please post your bona fides so we know the level of genius from which you speak.
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Post by Green money Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 21:41

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lol It’s always fun reading posts from randos on the internet who think they know more than a major college basketball coach. Please post your bona fides so we know the level of genius from which you speak.
Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that. Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes. I would send added message with him not starting. What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?
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Post by DWags Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 21:48

Green money wrote:
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lol It’s always fun reading posts from randos on the internet who think they know more than a major college basketball coach. Please post your bona fides so we know the level of genius from which you speak.
Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that.  Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes.   I would send added message with him not starting.   What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?


I will be the first one to tell you that Greenway is not very bright.  But he’s bright enough to know this:  He knows what he doesn’t know, and certainly doesn’t act like he knows it all on a Message board.  

I have always felt that being dumb, wasn’t so much of a disadvantage for me as long as I knew I was dumb


It’s the dumb people that don’t know they are dumb that Bring so much pain into our lives.  

Being Just smart enough to know you are stupid, really helps you get through life.   Being dumb enough to think you are smart Is way more dangerous.
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Post by Green money Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 22:11

DWags wrote:
Green money wrote:
Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that.  Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes.   I would send added message with him not starting.   What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?


I will be the first one to tell you that Greenway is not very bright.  But he’s bright enough to know this:  He knows what he doesn’t know, and certainly doesn’t act like he knows it all on a Message board.  

I have always felt that being dumb, wasn’t so much of a disadvantage for me as long as I knew I was dumb


It’s the dumb people that don’t know they are dumb that Bring so much pain into our lives.  

Being Just smart enough to know you are stupid, really helps you get through life.   Being dumb enough to think you are smart Is way more dangerous.
you sound like you are a legend in your own mind. Is that smart or stupid?
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Post by DWags Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 22:19

Green money wrote:
DWags wrote:


I will be the first one to tell you that Greenway is not very bright.  But he’s bright enough to know this:  He knows what he doesn’t know, and certainly doesn’t act like he knows it all on a Message board.  

I have always felt that being dumb, wasn’t so much of a disadvantage for me as long as I knew I was dumb


It’s the dumb people that don’t know they are dumb that Bring so much pain into our lives.  

Being Just smart enough to know you are stupid, really helps you get through life.   Being dumb enough to think you are smart Is way more dangerous.
you sound like you are a legend in your own mind. Is that smart or stupid?


Don’t know, but it keeps me from calling radio shows and saying “the lions should trade their back up quarterback and a first round pick for Mahomes and then use both him and Goff at the same time in a game”.
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Post by DWags Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 22:27

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Post by tGreenWay Wed 13 Nov 2024 - 22:49

Green money wrote:
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lol It’s always fun reading posts from randos on the internet who think they know more than a major college basketball coach. Please post your bona fides so we know the level of genius from which you speak.
Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that. Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes. I would send added message with him not starting. What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?



lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
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Post by gomersbro Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 0:01

DWags wrote:[tw]1856815850193387565?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

Ugh, Wisconsin and Bo Ryan used to do that too.
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Post by Green money Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 7:45

tGreenWay wrote:
Green money wrote: Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that. Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes. I would send added message with him not starting. What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?



lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
you are very cranky since your hero Harris lost. Carry on Edison.
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Post by duffy munn Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 7:50

Green money wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:



lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
you are very cranky since your hero Harris lost. Carry on Edison.

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Post by NigelUno Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 9:22

Green money wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:



lol It’s always fun reading posts from randos on the internet who think they know more than a major college basketball coach. Please post your bona fides so we know the level of genius from which you speak.
Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that. Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes. I would send added message with him not starting. What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?

What's your plan for Akins?
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Post by NigelUno Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 9:34

DWags wrote:[tw]1856815850193387565?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

We made 3 3s vs. Monmouth. Michigan State Basketball 2024-25 - Page 6 2599972566
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Post by DWags Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 9:43

Green money wrote:
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lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
you are very cranky since your hero Harris lost. Carry on Edison.

We’ve all brought politics here to this board, sometimes inadvertently. But this will be your first warning to please don’t do it. This isn’t the RCMB, and frankly I’ve received an education in basketball by some of the idiots on this board. If you have a legit reason for your opinion I look forward to it. I myself have coached two JV high school basketball games in my life so often these guys pm me to try to bleed me of my extensive knowledge.

Point is, you know the board to talk politics. You can insult members about their lack of knowledge of a sport here our laud yours. But let’s keep the two boards separated. (Unless it’s a topic where politics is in sport (transgender, kneeling for the anthem etc).


I thought greenway asked a legit question.
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Post by DWags Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 9:47

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:[tw]1856815850193387565?s=46&t=o_-92Ldle66XHQBlJVUMFQ[/tw]

We made 3 3s vs. Monmouth. Michigan State Basketball 2024-25 - Page 6 2599972566

Do you ever get the feeling that the team starts thinking about their misses? I saw Booker miss three or four in a row, and then he was wide open. Had a great look for a fist shot, but passed it up.

I’m of the mind shooters shoot. If your offense is designed to get somebody open at the three-point line and you have the look then shoot it.

Akins will get it together, When is the last time we had just had a dead aim dead on three-point shooter that you couldn’t leave open at all?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 9:57

tGreenWay wrote:
Green money wrote: Booker sat the 2nd half and I agree with that. Unless he improves he should continue to play minimum minutes. I would send added message with him not starting. What is your plan Edison since you are so bright?



lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
This is why I can't stomach sports talk radio or 90% of espn's programming.
All just fatheads blowing hot air...

That said, Whatever Izzo is doing in the preseason should probably include 47% more 3 pt shooting drills.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 10:00

DWags wrote:
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We made 3 3s vs. Monmouth. Michigan State Basketball 2024-25 - Page 6 2599972566

Do you ever get the feeling that the team starts thinking about their misses? I saw Booker miss three or four in a row, and then he was wide open. Had a great look for a fist shot, but passed it up.

I’m of the mind shooters shoot. If your offense is designed to get somebody open at the three-point line and you have the look then shoot it.

Akins will get it together, When is the last time we had just had a dead aim dead on three-point shooter that you couldn’t leave open at all?

For sure. Some guys (appear to) lose confidence. And that may have been why Booker sat. If he's in there to make 3s, and won't shoot...then might as well sit him.

Hauser was our last guy. Walker had some good years. We need to get a few guys in that 40% range. Kohler took 5 3s vs. Kansas. He took 5 in his first 2 seasons (and probably got yelled at). If he can knock them down, it will help immensely.

Fears has to drive the lane more and kick out for wide open looks for other guys. I think that's coming.
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Post by DWags Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 10:03

I'm not going to lose site that we sucked on offense and yet we were not that far out of the game. We get to say it's our defense that made them suck on offense but it was our poor shooting that was the cause of our low scoring.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 10:08

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lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
This is why I can't stomach sports talk radio or 90% of espn's programming.
All just fatheads blowing hot air...

That said, Whatever Izzo is doing in the preseason should probably include 47% more 3 pt shooting drills.

At halftime, Kansas was huddling up...we were on the court practicing swinging the ball from one side to the other for wide open corner 3s. Over and over and over. Like a legit coordinated practice session. We had a plan. They just weren't going down. And Kansas was playing good defense.

We have a leader. We're still playing around with lineups (as usual). Kohler is a scorer. Fidler is a scorer. We need Akins to be a scorer. I like this team.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 10:10

DWags wrote:I'm not going to lose site that we sucked on offense and yet we were not that far out of the game. We get to say it's our defense that made them suck on offense but it was our poor shooting that was the cause of our low scoring.

Agreed.

And Dickinson got his. But, he's not why we lost. We just didn't score. Again...if they're #1, we're going to be OK.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 10:10

DWags wrote:I'm not going to lose site that we sucked on offense and yet we were not that far out of the game. We get to say it's our defense that made them suck on offense but it was our poor shooting that was the cause of our low scoring.



We played with them for a lot of the game. It sucks we lost, but taking on the #1 team in the country and playing them so close is something positive to build on.
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Post by DWags Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 10:21

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:I'm not going to lose site that we sucked on offense and yet we were not that far out of the game. We get to say it's our defense that made them suck on offense but it was our poor shooting that was the cause of our low scoring.

Agreed.

And Dickinson got his. But, he's not why we lost. We just didn't score. Again...if they're #1, we're going to be OK.

I saw where izzo said that they were not going to double him, and he knew he'd get his points because of that. He said he also thought that they did well guarding the 3 because they didn't double him.
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Post by Pervis Muldoon Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 12:10

tGreenWay wrote:
DWags wrote:I'm not going to lose site that we sucked on offense and yet we were not that far out of the game. We get to say it's our defense that made them suck on offense but it was our poor shooting that was the cause of our low scoring.



We played with them for a lot of the game. It sucks we lost, but taking on the #1 team in the country and playing them so close is something positive to build on.

Playing hard and losing a close game? No thanks. I don’t believe in moral victories. I only believe in immoral victories. Izzo should’ve had the team scam the elderly on the phone at halftime.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 18:07

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We played with them for a lot of the game. It sucks we lost, but taking on the #1 team in the country and playing them so close is something positive to build on.

Playing hard and losing a close game? No thanks. I don’t believe in moral victories. I only believe in immoral victories. Izzo should’ve had the team scam the elderly on the phone at halftime.
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Post by DWags Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 18:16

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Playing hard and losing a close game? No thanks. I don’t believe in moral victories. I only believe in immoral victories. Izzo should’ve had the team scam the elderly on the phone at halftime.
Pervis is a blue.


I don't know about any of that, but what I do know is this: Pervis Muldoon, is one of the greatest evaluators of MSU football on a grading scale perhaps in the history of our University. I don't know how he does it. Objective, Subjective, Data points, analytics. I don't know if the man sleeps a wink during the fall. His evaluation and grading of MSU Football week to week is as close to perfection as a melting moments halftime snack on an 85 degree first game of the season. If it was possible to give a professor over 100% score, it would have to go to our very own, Pervis Muldoon.
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Post by Nordic Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 19:07

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lol What Dwags said. Go back to my post and work on your reading comprehension. I never said I had an answer. I leave that to the coaches. I said it’s fun reading coaching comments from guys like you pretending to know more than major college coaches while hiding behind your keyboard. I also asked you to post the extent of your basketball coaching experience. Who knows, maybe you’re someone whose basketball opinions I should consider. But if you don’t, you’re just another know-it-all on a sports message board pretending to be better at figuring out basketball team lineups than the people paid millions to actually do it.
You probably think you know more about coaching football, too, than the guys leading their teams out of the tunnel on game days.
This is why I can't stomach sports talk radio or 90% of espn's programming.
All just fatheads blowing hot air...

That said, Whatever Izzo is doing in the preseason should probably include 47% more 3 pt shooting drills.

lol!
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Post by Nordic Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 19:08

DWags wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Pervis is a blue.


I don't know about any of that, but what I do know is this: Pervis Muldoon, is one of the greatest evaluators of MSU football on a grading scale perhaps in the history of our University. I don't know how he does it. Objective, Subjective, Data points, analytics. I don't know if the man sleeps a wink during the fall. His evaluation and grading of MSU Football week to week is as close to perfection as a melting moments halftime snack on an 85 degree first game of the season. If it was possible to give a professor over 100% score, it would have to go to our very own, Pervis Muldoon.

I’ve tried so many times to find a flaw in his grading and I just can’t.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Thu 14 Nov 2024 - 20:52

DWags wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Pervis is a blue.


I don't know about any of that, but what I do know is this: Pervis Muldoon, is one of the greatest evaluators of MSU football on a grading scale perhaps in the history of our University. I don't know how he does it. Objective, Subjective, Data points, analytics. I don't know if the man sleeps a wink during the fall. His evaluation and grading of MSU Football week to week is as close to perfection as a melting moments halftime snack on an 85 degree first game of the season. If it was possible to give a professor over 100% score, it would have to go to our very own, Pervis Muldoon.
I'm just saying... anyone who approved of immoral victories MUST be blue.
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Post by NigelUno Tue 19 Nov 2024 - 16:29

Wait.

There's a game tonight.

Samford & Sons is in trouble.
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