Michigan State Basketball 2024-25

Kinda big one v Nebraskaball. They don't suck anymore. Beat a ranked Creighton at their place.

Weird having a noon Saturday game since none for football...

Need to win this game and all home games if we want to be a top conference team.

Hüsker Don’t.

Green money wrote:Need to win this game and all home games if we want to be a top conference team.

DEMAND EXCELLENCE

Who’s good at starting game threads? We need a quality game thread. No fucking around. Gotta be dialed in for this one.

Oh shit. Nebraska has a sharpshooter, a glue guy and a facilitator.

NigelUno wrote:

Green money wrote:Need to win this game and all home games if we want to be a top conference team.

DEMAND EXCELLENCE

Must win all da games

Pervis Muldoon wrote:Who’s good at starting game threads? We need a quality game thread. No fucking around. Gotta be dialed in for this one.

This team doesn’t need us

Wow

This Team Fucks

All fucking cylinders. 49 freaking rebounds. Kohler tuning into a beast. Cooper knocks down a 15 footer.

I like this team.

Izzo is playing 10 with 4* freshman guard Kur Teng coming in as the 11th.

So far it looks like Izzo’s game plan is start 3 guards with 2 bigs substituting Richardson as a guard and bringing in Booker, Carr, Cooper and Fidler.

No rest for opponent’s starting five and forcing their coaches to go deeper on the bench.

Win using a war of attrition.

Let's not get over our skis here.

It's a long season.

We witnessed the Spartans of 20 years ago. Solid D all around. If Carr had hit that dunk after his block the Breslin would have melted down.

Trapper Gus wrote:Let's not get over our skis here.

It's a long season.

Who’s over their ski’s? Izzo’s long bench helps. Shooting better than 80% from the FT line does too.

The Top 6 teams in the Big Ten will have between 4-6 conference losses each come March.

GRR Spartan wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:Let's not get over our skis here.

It's a long season.

Who’s over their ski’s?  Izzo’s long bench helps.  Shooting better than 80% from the FT line does too.

The Top 6 teams in the Big Ten will have between 4-6 conference losses each come March.

2000 GRR

Once I see MSU at three losses I will believe.

Trapper Gus wrote:Let's not get over our skis here.

It's a long season.

No one is over anything. Some of us are excited about what we see. Enjoy the ride.

Nordic wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:Let's not get over our skis here.

It's a long season.

No one is over anything. Some of us are excited about what we see. Enjoy the ride.

Good, as a Spartan Brass member in 1975, watching Indiana bury Gus's squad when the back players didn't play, I may have a negative perspective.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Nordic wrote:

No one is over anything. Some of us are excited about what we see. Enjoy the ride.

Good, as a Spartan Brass member in 1975, watching Indiana bury Gus's squad when the back players didn't play, I may have a negative perspective.

Jesus man.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Nordic wrote:

No one is over anything. Some of us are excited about what we see. Enjoy the ride.

Good, as a Spartan Brass member in 1975, watching Indiana bury Gus's squad when the back players didn't play, I may have a negative perspective.

I hear ya. I’m still not over Brutus for what he did to Julius Caesar.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/12/tom-izzo-not-spreading-rat-poison-amid-michigan-states-early-success.html

https://x.com/MSU_Basketball/status/1865751760154898727

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Welcome aboard Seth. Can we get anything?

Speaking of Seth... he get canned from CBS? Saw him on btn was like wtf?

Trapper Gus wrote:

Nordic wrote:

No one is over anything. Some of us are excited about what we see. Enjoy the ride.

Good, as a Spartan Brass member in 1975, watching Indiana bury Gus's squad when the back players didn't play, I may have a negative perspective.

Got an email for Seth Davis subscription site Hoops HQ. It's $60/year. Basketball centric / "insider".

DWags wrote:These four stats were just published by Connor Muldowny on Spartan Shadows.

Somebody said this was a fun team to watch.  I contend it’s because this is the type of game most of us like to watch.  We have a team that gets its ass up and down the floor. This is also a team that will share the ball if somebody has a better shot than they do..  it’s a team that’s not afraid to mix it up under the boards, and finally, it’s a team that can make foul shots.  ( how frustrating is it to watch a team that misses  free throws?).

I’m not declaring this team a final four team, but it’s fun to watch them   Let’s hope they keep growing

1.  Michigan State is No. 3 in the country in fastbreak points per game (20.5)

2. MSU is No. 6 in the nation in rebound margin (11.4)


3.  MSU is No. 13 in free throw shooting (80.4%) — also No. 49 in attempts (24 per game)


4.MSU is No. 17 in the country in assists per game (18.2)

Number one must be wrong. Izzo teams don’t run.
Signed,
Local, state, and national sports reporters

DWags wrote:These four stats were just published by Connor Muldowny on Spartan Shadows.

Somebody said this was a fun team to watch.  I contend it’s because this is the type of game most of us like to watch.  We have a team that gets its ass up and down the floor. This is also a team that will share the ball if somebody has a better shot than they do..  it’s a team that’s not afraid to mix it up under the boards, and finally, it’s a team that can make foul shots.  ( how frustrating is it to watch a team that misses  free throws?).

I’m not declaring this team a final four team, but it’s fun to watch them   Let’s hope they keep growing

1.  Michigan State is No. 3 in the country in fastbreak points per game (20.5)

2. MSU is No. 6 in the nation in rebound margin (11.4)


3.  MSU is No. 13 in free throw shooting (80.4%) — also No. 49 in attempts (24 per game)


4.MSU is No. 17 in the country in assists per game (18.2)

Anti-modernized basketball

DWags wrote:These four stats were just published by Connor Muldowny on Spartan Shadows.

Somebody said this was a fun team to watch.  I contend it’s because this is the type of game most of us like to watch.  We have a team that gets its ass up and down the floor. This is also a team that will share the ball if somebody has a better shot than they do..  it’s a team that’s not afraid to mix it up under the boards, and finally, it’s a team that can make foul shots.  ( how frustrating is it to watch a team that misses  free throws?).

I’m not declaring this team a final four team, but it’s fun to watch them   Let’s hope they keep growing

1.  Michigan State is No. 3 in the country in fastbreak points per game (20.5)

2. MSU is No. 6 in the nation in rebound margin (11.4)


3.  MSU is No. 13 in free throw shooting (80.4%) — also No. 49 in attempts (24 per game)


4.MSU is No. 17 in the country in assists per game (18.2)

I'm not a fan of Muldowny. Pretty much all the guy does is "report" on other reports as he fancies himself a reporter. Then he sprinkles in his opinions which are almost always nonsense. Like last year when nearly every post was calling out Izzo for not playing Booker.

tGreenWay wrote:

DWags wrote:These four stats were just published by Connor Muldowny on Spartan Shadows.

Somebody said this was a fun team to watch.  I contend it’s because this is the type of game most of us like to watch.  We have a team that gets its ass up and down the floor. This is also a team that will share the ball if somebody has a better shot than they do..  it’s a team that’s not afraid to mix it up under the boards, and finally, it’s a team that can make foul shots.  ( how frustrating is it to watch a team that misses  free throws?).

I’m not declaring this team a final four team, but it’s fun to watch them   Let’s hope they keep growing

1.  Michigan State is No. 3 in the country in fastbreak points per game (20.5)

2. MSU is No. 6 in the nation in rebound margin (11.4)


3.  MSU is No. 13 in free throw shooting (80.4%) — also No. 49 in attempts (24 per game)


4.MSU is No. 17 in the country in assists per game (18.2)

Number one must be wrong. Izzo teams don’t run.
Signed,
Local, state, and national sports reporters

That always gets me. It happens most often during the NCAA tournament when the sports talk guys are previewing games. Well, you know Izzo. Sparty is gonna try to slow it down and play defense so if they can dictate the pace expect a game in the 50s or 60s.

You would think that at some point the final score of 87-82 would register with them and they wouldn’t say the same shit before the next game, but the next game comes and they say the same shit.

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:



Number one must be wrong. Izzo teams don’t run.
Signed,
Local, state, and national sports reporters

That always gets me. It happens most often during the NCAA tournament when the sports talk guys are previewing games. Well, you know Izzo. Sparty is gonna try to slow it down and play defense so if they can dictate the pace expect a game in the 50s or 60s.

You would think that at some point the final score of 87-82 would register with them and they wouldn’t say the same shit before the next game, but the next game comes and they say the same shit.

That would require preparing for games. Most don’t go into a job in the toy department thinking they’ll have homework. It would be nice if a few of those reporters saw the Nebraska game. That was what TI wants to do with this team.

DWags wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

I'm not a fan of Muldowny. Pretty much all the guy does is "report" on other reports as he fancies himself a reporter. Then he sprinkles in his opinions which are almost always nonsense. Like last year when nearly every post was calling out Izzo for not playing Booker.

Yeah, I said his name because it’s where I saw those stats.  That’s what the post was about.  I just wanted to quote where I got them from.  Because I didn’t dig them up.

I don't care where they stats came from. I all the same

Feels like team Defense would be way higher in the rankings if they didn't get 91 hung on them in the NC win.

DWags wrote:These four stats were just published by Connor Muldowny on Spartan Shadows.

Somebody said this was a fun team to watch.  I contend it’s because this is the type of game most of us like to watch.  We have a team that gets its ass up and down the floor. This is also a team that will share the ball if somebody has a better shot than they do..  it’s a team that’s not afraid to mix it up under the boards, and finally, it’s a team that can make foul shots.  ( how frustrating is it to watch a team that misses  free throws?).

I’m not declaring this team a final four team, but it’s fun to watch them   Let’s hope they keep growing

1.  Michigan State is No. 3 in the country in fastbreak points per game (20.5)

2. MSU is No. 6 in the nation in rebound margin (11.4)


3.  MSU is No. 13 in free throw shooting (80.4%) — also No. 49 in attempts (24 per game)


4.MSU is No. 17 in the country in assists per game (18.2)

This has been referenced before (as a winning formula of sorts)...

The Four Factors:

1. Effective field goal percentage is like regular field goal percentage except that it gives 50% more credit for made three-pointers.

eFG% = (.5*3FGM + FGM) / FGA

2. Turnover percentage is a pace-independent measure of ball security.

TO% = TO / Possessions

3. Offensive rebounding percentage is a measure of the possible rebounds that are gathered by the offense.

OR% = OR / (OR + DRopp)

Keep in mind that rebounding percentage is computed from box score data which does not contain team rebounds. Therefore, the figures shown here may differ slightly from calculations made on the rebounding totals provided by a school.

4. Finally, free throw rate captures a team’s ability to get to the free throw line.

FTRate = FT / FGA

Those stats all appear here: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/men/2025-advanced-school-stats.html

If you tweak it a little you can see where we're ranked in each.

eFG% - Currently 52.9 #143/364 (not great, but we haven't made a bunch of 3s...need to bring this up)

TOV% - Currently 14.5 #136 (not bad, but also not great)

ORB% - Currently 35.9 #58 (this is good, and our overall RB% is #8)

FT/FGa - Currently 32.4 #18 (this is good)

I think we're attacking the basket more (which leads to more FTs). Hopefully that's just not confirmation bias on my part. Turnovers are emphasized every year. And obviously not rocket science, but we have to shoot better from 3.

I think the team is fun to watch because we have a bunch of guys with a scorer's mentality...Fidler, Akins (sometimes), Richardson (has the green light obviously), Holloman (when needed), Book is getting there, Carr drives (and not just for dunks), Kohler wants the ball in the post.

Would love for Fears to drive more.

Tight game, up by 1 vs OU at the half.