The Supreme Court

Zurn wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Also ruled you can arrest homeless people for sleeping in public.

Seems reasonable. Unless you support vagrancy.

Sure, arrest them, throw them in jail and they can sleep, and eat, at the public's expense.

I fully support kindness, empathy and caring for the less fortunate in ways those with privilege should. To whom more is given, more is expected.

probably explains why I'd never make it at church or within the christian religion.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I fully support kindness, empathy and caring for the less fortunate in ways those with privilege should. To whom more is given, more is expected.

probably explains why I'd never make it at church or within the christian religion.

Before the radical right took over the leadership of the churches the Christian religion used to do those things

Trapper Gus wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I fully support kindness, empathy and caring for the less fortunate in ways those with privilege should. To whom more is given, more is expected.

probably explains why I'd never make it at church or within the christian religion.

Before the radical right took over the leadership of the churches the Christian religion used to do those things

now they line up to vote for a rapist who mocks disabled people.

I can't be seen hanging around folks like that.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Before the radical right took over the leadership of the churches the Christian religion used to do those things

You know about as much about churches as you do cars. Yes, some churches could be considered right wing politically but many churches are left wing politically. In most churches politics isn't a priority.

The guys (church guys) I play basketball with in the winter volunteer at the Ruth Ellis Center in Detroit as just one example.

Motown Spartan wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Sure, arrest them, throw them in jail and they can sleep, and eat, at the public's expense.

I fully support feeding and housing the homeless.

So do I, but I don't think they should be allowed to sleep out in the streets.

My wife’s ex husbands church all wore camo at one service in support of those duck dynasty guys.

They’ll smile right in your face and tell you all about the good things in life that we all should do.

The SCOTUS is doing just what the corporations that paid US Senators to confirm them and now pay for trips including private aircraft, speaking gigs (and at least one motor home) expected them to do.

Bayer and Krupp “supported” the German judicial system in the 1930’s.

kingstonlake wrote:My wife’s ex husbands church all wore camo at one service in support of those duck dynasty guys.

They’ll smile right in your face and tell you all about the good things in life that we all should do.

Camo wearing dudes can't do good things in life?

Motown Spartan wrote:

Zurn wrote:

So do I, but I don't think they should be allowed to sleep out in the streets.

Then we should provide food and shelter for them.

We used to do that. Somewhere along the way society decided it was better to let them sleep in the streets and closed the institutions that provided that kind of care.

Zurn wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:My wife’s ex husbands church all wore camo at one service in support of those duck dynasty guys.

They’ll smile right in your face and tell you all about the good things in life that we all should do.

Camo wearing dudes can't do good things in life?

Not in this case.

Zurn wrote:

Motown Spartan wrote:

Then we should provide food and shelter for them.

We used to do that. Somewhere along the way society decided it was better to let them sleep in the streets and closed the institutions that provided that kind of care.

Just for the record, that was Reagen.

Zurn wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Before the radical right took over the leadership of the churches the Christian religion used to do those things

You know about as much about churches as you do cars. Yes, some churches could be considered right wing politically but many churches are left wing politically. In most churches politics isn't a priority.

The guys (church guys) I play basketball with in the winter volunteer at the Ruth Ellis Center in Detroit as just one example.

And they are probably raping the less fortunate just as soon as they get them alone somewhere.

Trapper Gus wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Also ruled to make it harder to prosecute Jan 6th insurrectionist for obstruction. Basically they had to physically destroy the actual documents of the electoral certification in order to be prosecuted for obstruction. For some reason Jackson was on the majority side on that one.

This one is huge as it will require a whole bunch of already adjudicated cases to be reviewed & it undercuts the case against Trump in the DC court.

Actually, this has little effect on Trump, Jack smith crafted his case for this eventuality. But yes a handful of cases will need to be reviewed. Apparently you need to catch someone on video announcing they are trying to obstruct and ripping up the actual documents to get them on that.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
This is very, very bad.

It is also a power grab by the court, as now a bunch of cases will be tried in court instead of following the science.

definitely a power grab. They are making it so the congress, yes this congress that can no longer agree on any details, need to effectively list out in detail every intention, everthing, every possible interpretation in their laws to make them effective. If they don't, it's up to the courts to decide. That is a giant power grab seeing as how our legislation is written for utilizing common sense and also often vaguely to be able to change with the times. Apparently common sense doesn't matter, vague laws won't matter, everything needs to be detailed. What a shit show.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

It is also a power grab by the court, as now a bunch of cases will be tried in court instead of following the science.

definitely a power grab. They are making it so the congress, yes this congress that can no longer agree on any details, need to effectively list out in detail every intention, everthing, every possible interpretation in their laws to make them effective. If they don't, it's up to the courts to decide. That is a giant power grab seeing as how our legislation is written for utilizing common sense and also often vaguely to be able to change with the times. Apparently common sense doesn't matter, vague laws won't matter, everything needs to be detailed. What a shit show.

This court is doing what I expected. The billionaires have a court which will always rule in thier favor.

DWags wrote:

Zurn wrote:

We used to do that.   Somewhere along the way society decided it was better to let them sleep in the streets and closed the institutions that provided that kind of care.  

Reagan and the Republican legislature in our state under Engler.


So “Zurn” I’m calling you out as a liar.  Like Trump. Exactly like Trump.  But somehow you don’t think constantly lying is a big deal.  More than that, you probably call yourself a Christian.   The world all of you are leading us to is crazy.  But ftr I don’t believe anything you say.  

For the record DWags, I didn't blame specific people or presidents or liberals or conservatives for the homeless situation.   I simply said that we used to provide care and housing for those now living on the streets.  I said that somewhere along the way society decided it was better to close those institutions that provided that care and housing.   If you want to blame Engler go ahead although I think the societal shift in the treatment of the mentally ill and addicted began long before Engler's time as governor.  

Lying is a big deal. If I have posted something that you think is a lie, please point it out and I will be happy to explain or clarify.    But opposing points of view are not "lies".   Different interpretations of data are not lies.

Your anger at the Christian church seems largely grounded in ignorance.   Of course there are bad church people and bad churches.   Just like there are bad university people and bad universities.  Although I haven't attended church regularly in many years my memories of growing up going to church are largely warm and positive and the people I know that are church members are mostly great people that are doing good things.  I always look to the example of my basketball buddies and the things they do via their church such as going down to the Ruth Ellis Center.

mmm...that being said, maybe I will go to church this morning, but, I'm working on my golf game and have a tee time at 10 so maybe next week!

Dwags, if he is RQA he can't answer that as board policy says he will be banned?

Big day today.

Trapper Gus wrote:Dwags, if he is RQA he can't answer that as board policy says he will be banned?

Would Dwags believe him if he did answer? :

What a dumb obsession.

TravelinMan wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:Dwags, if he is RQA he can't answer that as board policy says he will be banned?

Would Dwags believe him if he did answer? :

What a dumb obsession.

I agree. Lying about who you are is extremely weird. I mean who so obsess with a board that after being banned they create another user name. Like, you don’t have anything better to do?

TravelinMan wrote:

Would Dwags believe him if he did answer?  :

What a dumb obsession.  

I agree. Lying about who you are is extremely weird. I mean who’s so obsessed with a board that after being banned they create another user name. Like, you don’t have anything better to do?

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kingstonlake wrote:

I agree. Lying about who you are is extremely weird. I mean who’s so obsessed with a board that after being banned they create another user name. Like, you don’t have anything better to do?

Why was RQA banned anyway? He always seemed like an OK guy.

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kingstonlake wrote:

Why was RQA banned anyway? He always seemed like an OK guy.

Look up his last posts, there is probably a mod warning about some behavior.

[quote="Trapper Gus"]

TravelinMan wrote:

Look up his last posts, there is probably a mod warning about some behavior.

Made too many non-liberal posts?

And…. We’re fucked.

Biden should hire Seal Team 6 to take care of his political rivals.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Biden should hire Seal Team 6 to take care of his political rivals.

I’m not sure Biden is capable of counting to six anymore.

TravelinMan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Biden should hire Seal Team 6 to take care of his political rivals.

I’m not sure Biden is capable of counting to six anymore.

yeah, the mainstream media told me that he can't tie his own shoes.

that sounds pretty bad.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

TravelinMan wrote:

I’m not sure Biden is capable of counting to six anymore.

yeah, the mainstream media told me that he can't tie his own shoes.

that sounds pretty bad.

It’s ok Jill is handling it.

TravelinMan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: yeah, the mainstream media told me that he can't tie his own shoes.

that sounds pretty bad.

It’s ok Jill is handling it.

don't worry - the mainstream media, Russia and the beltway elite are making sure your christian hero is getting elected.

Well, time to dial up Mad Max and get a grip on what Americas future will look like.

The Supreme Court has literally green lit election interference and nullification. . And Jill Biden better damn well use that power.

So in summery……. even if Jill wins, Georgia case gonna get thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct, huge portion of the DC case will now fall under “official acts” clause, and the stolen documents case, lol yeah, we know how that one plays out.

From the decision

“Courts may longer inquire about the Presidents motives”

This has to backfire, right? If this doesn’t motivate people to vote, nothing will.