Re: The Supreme Court

by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:11

on the upside, surely fans of the racist, bigoted ,christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon will now stop whining about Biden using the DoJ to go after political opponents.

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by sεяεηιτλ Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:18

We may be well and truly fucked. Biden is a rambling old man and trump essentially has immunity from anything that can be classified an official act. What does that mean? Trump, as president, surely has an official interest in "maintaining election integrity", so he can do anything? Even if he's lying and wrong? This is absurd. Seems like yet another power shift to the judiciary.

Here's what may happen, trump is charged due to his actions, judge on case defines some as official acts, some as not. Trump disagrees, goes up the chain (again) for the corrupt scotus to decide. That's more power to them to be the arbiter of, well, everything.

Meanwhile delay delay delay yet again. Our legal system sucks

On paper, the ruling makes sense ONLY if you ALREADY have a narrow definition of what is and is not an official act. Want to take a guess as to how narrow that little Diddy will be treated?

by **kingstonlake** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:23

sεяεηιτλ wrote:We may be well and truly fucked. Biden is a rambling old man and trump essentially has immunity from anything that can be classified an official act. What does that mean? Trump, as president, surely has an official interest in "maintaining election integrity", so he can do anything? Even if he's lying and wrong? This is absurd. Seems like yet another power shift to the judiciary.

Here's what may happen, trump is charged due to his actions, judge on case defines some as official acts, some as not. Trump disagrees, goes up the chain (again) for the corrupt scotus to decide. That's more power to them to be the arbiter of, well, everything.

Meanwhile delay delay delay yet again. Our legal system sucks

On paper, the ruling makes sense ONLY if you ALREADY have a narrow definition of what is and is not an official act. Want to take a guess as to how narrow that little Diddy will be treated?

It’s as narrow as the numbers 1-9 or more specifically 1-6.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:27

kingstonlake wrote:From the decision

“Courts may longer inquire about the Presidents motives”

This has to backfire, right? If this doesn’t motivate people to vote, nothing will.

definitely explains why the mainstream media, Russia, political/academic elites, republican/libertarians, et al, are doing their best to distract people from real issues America and democracy is facing with their "Biden is old" marching orders.

by sεяεηιτλ Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:30

kingstonlake wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:We may be well and truly fucked. Biden is a rambling old man and trump essentially has immunity from anything that can be classified an official act. What does that mean? Trump, as president, surely has an official interest in "maintaining election integrity", so he can do anything? Even if he's lying and wrong? This is absurd. Seems like yet another power shift to the judiciary.

Here's what may happen, trump is charged due to his actions, judge on case defines some as official acts, some as not. Trump disagrees, goes up the chain (again) for the corrupt scotus to decide. That's more power to them to be the arbiter of, well, everything.

Meanwhile delay delay delay yet again. Our legal system sucks

On paper, the ruling makes sense ONLY if you ALREADY have a narrow definition of what is and is not an official act. Want to take a guess as to how narrow that little Diddy will be treated?

It’s as narrow as the numbers 1-9 or more specifically 1-6.

One thing I will give trump, is that he is a master of working in, and taking advantage of grey areas of law and our society at large. The issue is that as president he has the literal power to create those grey areas and take advantage of them. As I'm sure Zurn will agree, The Russians have themselves an absolutely stellar asset.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:34

Seems to me that an official act of the presidency would be to imprison 6 Supreme Court justices in gitmo and replace them with 25 year old kids that just passed the bar, want the leftiest of leftist shit, and can be on the court for 70 years.

Democrats would never, we love our norms too much, and that’s what they’re banking on.

Anyway. Expand the court to 380,000,000 seats.

by **Jake from State Farm** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:41

Lindsey Graham was yesterday saying there would retribution against President Biden for what's going on at the Mexican border. Now that the Supreme Court gave him a pass since it's an official act of the President it looks like Lindsey is going to eat some crow. Of course with the hypocrisy of the republicans there's no doubt they will still try and go after him should Trump steal the election.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 12:57

"with fear for our democracy, I dissent" - Justice Sotomayer

who republican/libertarians will gaslight by saying she's overreacting

oh, and that Joe Biden is old.

by sεяεηιτλ Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 13:50

Robert J Sakimano wrote:"with fear for our democracy, I dissent" - Justice Sotomayer

who republican/libertarians will gaslight by saying she's overreacting

oh, and that Joe Biden is old.

This whole thing is scaring me now. Scotus green lighting legal paths for heinous and treasonous acts is getting me pretty down. With the old man, I'm not sure where we go from here. Scary times indeed. A shame that Dems couldn't forsee this debacle

by TravelinMan Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 13:56

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:"with fear for our democracy, I dissent" - Justice Sotomayer

who republican/libertarians will gaslight by saying she's overreacting

oh, and that Joe Biden is old.

This whole thing is scaring me now. Scotus green lighting legal paths for heinous and treasonous acts is getting me pretty down. With the old man, I'm not sure where we go from here. Scary times indeed. A shame that Dems couldn't forsee this debacle

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by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 14:00

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:"with fear for our democracy, I dissent" - Justice Sotomayer

who republican/libertarians will gaslight by saying she's overreacting

oh, and that Joe Biden is old.

This whole thing is scaring me now. Scotus green lighting legal paths for heinous and treasonous acts is getting me pretty down. With the old man, I'm not sure where we go from here. Scary times indeed. A shame that Dems couldn't forsee this debacle

Democrats have two main faults.

1. they think the average American has a reasonable amount of intellectual curiosity.

2. they play the game of modern American politics fairly.

republicans/libertarians, Russia and the mainstream media recognize this and, to them, it's like blood in the water.

by **DWags** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 14:23

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:Dwags, if he is RQA he can't answer that as board policy says he will be banned?

Would Dwags believe him if he did answer? :

What a dumb obsession.

I’ll not stop calling out liars. Here’s another warning, no matter how smart you think you are, There are three guys I know that are way smarter than you will ever be. Travis, WBH and especially Heat. Don’t try fucking with them computer wise. You stand no chance. They know shit about you before you post your first post

We’re being benevolent right now. But I want him to know he’s not an honest person. I know, that doesn’t matter with him. I get that.

by **GRR Spartan** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 14:27

We are now living in a representative democracy in name only.

The GOP controls the highest court in the land. That means elections no longer matter.

They will take place on a pro forma basis but this court has shown multiple times they won't go so far as to upset the GOP majority apple cart and in most instances will make rulings that benefit GOP office holders, corporations and the Top 5% that donate to the GOP directly and through 501c PAC's where their money can't be traced directly to them.

As some other poster alluded to, if Trump wins in November we can expect appointments to important posts that make our current Post Master General look like Mother Theresa

by **Jake from State Farm** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 14:42

Judge Merchan still has a chance to make all this moot. Sentence Donnie the Felon to the maximum penalty.

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 14:55

Always blame the "Dems" for what the Republicans are doing. You guys are well programmed by Putin.

by Rick Saunders Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 14:59

Like I been sayin' for many years... people should be proposing constitutional amendments.

by **kingstonlake** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:01

It’s really incredible.

Take the Nixon tapes for instance. If those tapes were over Nixon wanting and speculating what were to happen if Robert Kennedy were assassinated. In a case where Nixon and his cronies were the ones responsible……

Those tapes wouldn’t be admissible as evidence in a criminal trial.

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:05

I've heard lots of talking heads talking about this decision and have no idea what it means

by Rick Saunders Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:08

Setting aside dislike for (Bob's adjectives) Trump, it's worth remembering.....

Alito and Thomas are not Trump appointees.
Trump's appointees might have been any republican's appointees. The problem is that Trump had the opportunity to choose those appointees.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:14

imagine a country where someone who was convicted of 34 felonies and incited a deadly attack on democracy in an attempt to overturn a free and open electioin was then told by the highest court in the land that, if re-elected, he has sweeping immunity to committing crimes.

wonder what "America First" patriots would think of that country? scratch

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:17

Robert J Sakimano wrote:imagine a country where someone who was convicted of 34 felonies and incited a deadly attack on democracy in an attempt to overturn a free and open electioin was then told by the highest court in the land that, if re-elected, he has sweeping immunity to committing crimes.

wonder what "America First" patriots would think of that country?

I'm imaging that but having a hard time believing that it what the court meant.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:21

Trapper Gus wrote:I've heard lots of talking heads talking about this decision and have no idea what it means

Turn off cable news trapper.

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:27

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I've heard lots of talking heads talking about this decision and have no idea what it means
Turn off cable news trapper.

That is the level of discussion I have come to expect from you.

FTR I don't have cable and seldom watch TeeVee of any sort.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:30

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Turn off cable news trapper.

That is the level of discussion I have come to expect from you.

Look man I’m just telling you that if you’re looking for what something means then cable news ain’t it.

It does explain most of your takes though that you’re just parroting what you see on msnbc tho. Which of the talking heads said gish gallop last week? Was it one of your favorites or did a rando jump in and provide that gold?

by TravelinMan Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:35

DWags wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Would Dwags believe him if he did answer? :

What a dumb obsession.

I’ll not stop calling out liars. Here’s another warning, no matter how smart you think you are, There are three guys I know that are way smarter than you will ever be. Travis, WBH and especially Heat. Don’t try fucking with them computer wise. You stand no chance. They know shit about you before you post your first post

We’re being benevolent right now. But I want him to know he’s not an honest person. I know, that doesn’t matter with him. I get that.

I repeat: what a weird obsession.

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:36

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

That is the level of discussion I have come to expect from you.
Look man I’m just telling you that if you’re looking for what something means then cable news ain’t it.

It does explain most of your takes though that you’re just parroting what you see on msnbc tho. Which of the talking heads said gish gallop last week? Was it one of your favorites or did a rando jump in and provide that gold?

Gosh darn it Travis, responding to me without absorbing what I've said is a new level of stupidity from you.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 15:42

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Look man I’m just telling you that if you’re looking for what something means then cable news ain’t it.

It does explain most of your takes though that you’re just parroting what you see on msnbc tho. Which of the talking heads said gish gallop last week? Was it one of your favorites or did a rando jump in and provide that gold?

Gosh darn it Travis, responding to me without absorbing what I've said is a new level of stupidity from you.

Hey man this post wasn’t during a commercial you might have missed something! Be more careful please

by **kingstonlake** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 16:06

Maybe this was signaling from Alito, Thomas and the conservatives on the court. Shoving their chips into the middle of the table. You want this type of authoritarian government, then November is you chance. I mean it’s clear Democrats will never push the envelope on gray areas and instead rely on the good natured American public to just do the right thing and vote for the good natured guy who maybe likes ice cream or potato chips. As long as he’s good natured and says some feel good anecdotes about the American spirit.

Then again I guess it doesn’t matter. Democrats will fuck it up and republicans will always get another at bat to hit it out of the park.

by **DWags** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 16:08

TravelinMan wrote:
DWags wrote:

I’ll not stop calling out liars. Here’s another warning, no matter how smart you think you are, There are three guys I know that are way smarter than you will ever be. Travis, WBH and especially Heat. Don’t try fucking with them computer wise. You stand no chance. They know shit about you before you post your first post

We’re being benevolent right now. But I want him to know he’s not an honest person. I know, that doesn’t matter with him. I get that.

I repeat: what a weird obsession.

Getting banned on a board and needing to comeback with another screen name? Yeah. Obsession? IDK. Insanity? More likely.

How does that shoe fit?

by **kingstonlake** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 16:17

kingstonlake wrote:Maybe this was signaling from Alito, Thomas and the conservatives on the court. Shoving their chips into the middle of the table. You want this type of authoritarian government, then November is you chance. I mean it’s clear Democrats will never push the envelope on gray areas and instead rely on the good natured American public to just do the right thing and vote for the good natured guy who maybe likes ice cream or potato chips. As long as he’s good natured and says some feel good anecdotes about the American spirit.

Then again I guess it doesn’t matter. Democrats will fuck it up and republicans will always get another at bat to hit it out of the park.

Well that didn’t take long…..

Exhibit A

Ian Sams, spokesman for the White House Counsel's Office:

"As President Biden has said, nobody is above the law. That is a core American principle and how our system of justice works. We need leaders like President Biden who respect the justice system and don't tear it down."

by sεяεηιτλ Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 16:52

On the surface, the ruling seems reasonable, do you really think trump should be prosecuted after office for orders given during a conflict that resulted in some deaths? Probably not. But the problem comes when you realize that when you give republicans an inch of gray area, they will push it to the limit and take a million miles. You're then relying on the court to do right in making a judgement weather or not something was a legit act of the office. A court whom have already proven to be corrupt. And second, and particularly disturbing is the bit about disallowed evidence. Like what the fuck

The counter argument that presidents have governed fine without this level assumed immunity forever, why on earth would you give the free pass now?

by **Cameron** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:00

kingstonlake wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Maybe this was signaling from Alito, Thomas and the conservatives on the court. Shoving their chips into the middle of the table. You want this type of authoritarian government, then November is you chance. I mean it’s clear Democrats will never push the envelope on gray areas and instead rely on the good natured American public to just do the right thing and vote for the good natured guy who maybe likes ice cream or potato chips. As long as he’s good natured and says some feel good anecdotes about the American spirit.

Then again I guess it doesn’t matter. Democrats will fuck it up and republicans will always get another at bat to hit it out of the park.

Well that didn’t take long…..

Exhibit A

Ian Sams, spokesman for the White House Counsel's Office:

"As President Biden has said, nobody is above the law. That is a core American principle and how our system of justice works. We need leaders like President Biden who respect the justice system and don't tear it down."

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by sεяεηιτλ Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:08

Cameron wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Well that didn’t take long…..

Exhibit A

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Why don't you do something productive and help us get rid of trump?

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:15

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Gosh darn it Travis, responding to me without absorbing what I've said is a new level of stupidity from you.
Hey man this post wasn’t during a commercial you might have missed something! Be more careful please

Does a MOD have to ban himself for trolling?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:19

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Hey man this post wasn’t during a commercial you might have missed something! Be more careful please

Does a MOD have to ban himself for trolling?

I’ll discuss it on the secret board that no one else can see where we have dossiers on all posters just in case they act out

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:20

sεяεηιτλ wrote:On the surface, the ruling seems reasonable, do you really think trump should be prosecuted after office for orders given during a conflict that resulted in some deaths? Probably not. But the problem comes when you realize that when you give republicans an inch of gray area, they will push it to the limit and take a million miles. You're then relying on the court to do right in making a judgement weather or not something was a legit act of the office. A court whom have already proven to be corrupt. And second, and particularly disturbing is the bit about disallowed evidence. Like what the fuck

The counter argument that presidents have governed fine without this level assumed immunity forever, why on earth would you give the free pass now?

Allowing the President to conspire to attack the States voting systems as the calling his discussion regarding placing an acting AG in place to issue a unfounded letter to the States an official act beyond litigation or even evidence is corrupt by the court.

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:22

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Does a MOD have to ban himself for trolling?
I’ll discuss it on the secret board that no one else can see where we have dossiers on all posters just in case they act out

Be sure to invite Dwags and BTW, just because you are a MOD it shouldn't give you license to act how you are acting. Just the opposite. I guess you are taking lessons from Trump's example.

I would suggest that if you want to act this way create a second non mod board ID and use that.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:24

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
I’ll discuss it on the secret board that no one else can see where we have dossiers on all posters just in case they act out

Be sure to invite Dwags and BTW, just because you are a MOD it shouldn't give you license to act how you are acting. Just the opposite. I guess you are taking lessons from Trump's example.

Trapz if you really want to step back on this, I told you not to watch cable news so much and you lost your goddamn mind about it.

Point stands, cable news is a wasteland and you shouldn’t watch it.

by **Trapper Gus** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:28

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Be sure to invite Dwags and BTW, just because you are a MOD it shouldn't give you license to act how you are acting. Just the opposite. I guess you are taking lessons from Trump's example.
Trapz if you really want to step back on this, I told you not to watch cable news so much and you lost your goddamn mind about it.

Point stands, cable news is a wasteland and you shouldn’t watch it.

And I told you I don't watch it, which I don't, yet you continue with your charade. I get TM or Zurn doing that, I expect better from a MOD.

I suggest you look in a mirror regarding your comment.

I have been polite and factual replying to you.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon 1 Jul 2024 - 17:32

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapz if you really want to step back on this, I told you not to watch cable news so much and you lost your goddamn mind about it.

Point stands, cable news is a wasteland and you shouldn’t watch it.

And I told you I don't watch it, which I don't, yet you continue with your charade. I get TM or Zurn doing that, I expect better from a MOD.

I suggest you look in a mirror regarding your comment.

I just saw that you edited your post after I replied to it, which I never would have seen as I had clearly already read it. Why would I have seen your edit trappy?

Regardless I don’t really believe you since your first post was about what talking heads are saying to you and the edit came after you were told that cable news is worthless.

You’re a silly goose trapper

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