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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-12-01, 15:07

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:https://mndaily.com/239944/uncategorized/flag-planting-incidents-draw-ire-big-ten-office/

Yet two years ago when M did it at OSU it was all in good fun ... MSU should schedule some other team when they are suppose to play M and tell them "too bad"
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-12-01, 15:19

Notre Dame player gets away with punching a USC player.


https://athlonsports.com/college-football/cameras-catch-notre-dame-player-punching-usc-player-during-saturdays-game
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Post by DWags 2024-12-01, 18:09

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:I’d like someone to take a look at the practice of bringing your own security force (Michigan State Police) to the state of Ohio and have them pepper spray Ohio State players. This seems incredibly stupid and a recipe for something really really bad to happen.
Automatic $100,000 fine for both schools if there’s a scuffle after the game, or flag planting. Usually both are at fault in some way, there’s always the option of walking away. You’ve got certain schools, names not named, whose head coach is waiving bye at fans after his team beats the #2 in the country on the road on 11/30/24, no names named, and you wonder why this keeps happening. They aren’t taking it seriously, so start fining everyone.

It needs to stop. This shit doesn’t happen after nfl games, I don’t think it happens very often after high school, just college sports



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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-01, 18:25

That’ll show em.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2024-12-01, 18:53

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Automatic $100,000 fine for both schools if there’s a scuffle after the game, or flag planting. Usually both are at fault in some way, there’s always the option of walking away. You’ve got certain schools, names not named, whose head coach is waiving bye at fans after his team beats the #2 in the country on the road on 11/30/24, no names named, and you wonder why this keeps happening. They aren’t taking it seriously, so start fining everyone.

It needs to stop. This shit doesn’t happen after nfl games, I don’t think it happens very often after high school, just college sports



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Post by GRR Spartan 2024-12-01, 19:07

Big Ten fines $100K each AND takes the TV revenue from the game from both schools shares from whatever network the game was televised.

Big Ten gets $1B per year. The commissioner knows what the Fox share is and. Do some math and it’s at least several million. That’s probably more than Underwood’s NIL for 1 season.
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-12-01, 19:12

GRR Spartan wrote:Big Ten fines $100K each AND takes the TV revenue from the game from both schools shares from whatever network the game was televised.

Big Ten gets $1B per year. The commissioner knows what the Fox share is and. Do some math and it’s at least several million. That’s probably more than Underwood’s NIL for 1 season.




Is this something you wish they’d done? Because nothing in that statement says the two schools will lose their shares from that game.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-01, 19:18

GRR Spartan wrote:Big Ten fines $100K each AND takes the  TV revenue from the game from both schools shares from whatever network the game was televised.

Big Ten gets $1B per year.  The commissioner knows what the Fox share is and.  Do some math and it’s at least several million.  That’s probably more than Underwood’s NIL for 1 season.

Yeah that’s not happening. The “fine” is exactly in line with what you’d expect for the conferences cash cows.

There could literally be a gun fight on field between the two and OSU would still be hosting an NCAA playoff opening round game in a couple weeks.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2024-12-01, 20:36

A wish, not based on the dual handbooks of enforcement that exist in the Big Ten offices.

Until the Big Ten makes ALL its members pay major fines for fights, coaches swinging at other coaches (see JHerp) or pre game shit shows scum won’t make an effort to stop. They have an AD and board of regents that don’t care so long as wins and donations keep coming.
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Post by Nordic 2024-12-01, 22:16

DWags wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Automatic $100,000 fine for both schools if there’s a scuffle after the game, or flag planting. Usually both are at fault in some way, there’s always the option of walking away. You’ve got certain schools, names not named, whose head coach is waiving bye at fans after his team beats the #2 in the country on the road on 11/30/24, no names named, and you wonder why this keeps happening. They aren’t taking it seriously, so start fining everyone.

It needs to stop. This shit doesn’t happen after nfl games, I don’t think it happens very often after high school, just college sports


100k means nothing to either of those schools.

We talked about eliminating the hand shake line after a certain school’s head coach slapped another coach in it.

We talked about, and implemented staggering teams going into the tunnel after a certain school got into scuffles with three separate schools.

Now we’re talking about altering this.

Michigan doesn’t just plant a flag or use hard words in a hand shake line or celebrate with their own team running into a tunnel. They get in your face, they wave good by to your fans they shove your coaches.

Fine them all you want, but that’s school won’t change. I don’t have an answer other than fuck them.

I hope whatever school you are describing has a strong president that doesn't idolize football coaches and players as heros. Hopefully they'll get a stern talking to.
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-12-01, 23:05


Alabama A&M football player Medrick Burnett, Jr., died Nov. 27, just over a month after a vicious head-to-head collision with a player from Alabama St. during the Magic City Classic game in Birmingham.

https://people.com/college-football-player-medrick-burnett-jr-dies-after-game-injury-8753413
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-12-03, 08:01

and the beat goes on ...

https://www.mlive.com/sports/2024/12/former-michigan-state-starting-qb-enters-transfer-portal.html
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-03, 08:31

These fuck wads are gonna put Alabama in.

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Post by DWags 2024-12-03, 09:28

kingstonlake wrote:These fuck wads are gonna put Alabama in.



You know, I just put this together, 12 teams means you can get the best four of them in, then you can take the next best four.

Then, guess what you can do? You can put in teams that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets. This is gonna get really sickening because you know the brand names will be in every year.


With these fuckers don’t realize, is there are a bunch of us that would tune in and cheer on an army team. I would much rather watch an army squad and cheer for them. And I really do think there are enough college football enthusiast that would. But I’m not a suit at work.
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Post by NigelUno 2024-12-03, 09:39

DWags wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:These fuck wads are gonna put Alabama in.



You know, I just put this together, 12 teams means you can get the best four of them in, then you can take the next best four.

Then, guess what you can do? You can put in teams that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets. This is gonna get really sickening because you know the brand names will be in every year.


With these fuckers don’t realize, is there are a bunch of us that would tune in and cheer on an army team. I would much rather watch an army squad and cheer for them. And I really do think there are enough college football enthusiast that would. But I’m not a suit at work.

I would guess Alabama will be competing for the last spot with Miami.

And I think we'll see a 14 team playoff sooner than later.
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Post by DWags 2024-12-03, 09:59

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:


You know, I just put this together, 12 teams means you can get the best four of them in, then you can take the next best four.

Then, guess what you can do? You can put in teams that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets. This is gonna get really sickening because you know the brand names will be in every year.


With these fuckers don’t realize, is there are a bunch of us that would tune in and cheer on an army team. I would much rather watch an army squad and cheer for them. And I really do think there are enough college football enthusiast that would. But I’m not a suit at work.

I would guess Alabama will be competing for the last spot with Miami.

And I think we'll see a 14 team playoff sooner than later.


I get that they’re going to keep expanding. My point is this there will always only be four to six teams with a legitimate shot at a title so the more they expand, the more they are going to be able to pull in the brand names that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets

This is better than the NFL. NFL teams by and large to get in on Merritt. College teams after the first eight, are going to be getting in on popularity. Just my opinion.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2024-12-03, 10:08

I’m confused, why is that better than the nfl?
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Post by Pervis Muldoon 2024-12-03, 10:13

DWags wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:These fuck wads are gonna put Alabama in.



You know, I just put this together, 12 teams means you can get the best four of them in, then you can take the next best four.

Then, guess what you can do? You can put in teams that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets. This is gonna get really sickening because you know the brand names will be in every year.


With these fuckers don’t realize, is there are a bunch of us that would tune in and cheer on an army team. I would much rather watch an army squad and cheer for them. And I really do think there are enough college football enthusiast that would. But I’m not a suit at work.

You’re right. When committees choose the teams, they will routinely bullshit themselves and us, putting their feelings or agendas above the actual results on the field.

Committee Chairman Gary Barta after they put Michigan ahead of MSU in 2021, even though the teams had identical records and MSU had beaten Michigan.

“I would just summarize that the committee went back and forth and, really, the consensus was that Michigan was probably a more complete team. They’re ranked higher than Michigan State in just about every category. That being said, the committee gave great credence to a Michigan State win head-to-head against Michigan.”

It amazes me that the tough guy football fans in this country defend a system that treats football like a beauty pageant. We don’t need judges telling us which team is prettier. We need rules that allow the teams to decide it on the field.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-12-03, 10:23

Pervis Muldoon wrote:
DWags wrote:


You know, I just put this together, 12 teams means you can get the best four of them in, then you can take the next best four.

Then, guess what you can do? You can put in teams that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets. This is gonna get really sickening because you know the brand names will be in every year.


With these fuckers don’t realize, is there are a bunch of us that would tune in and cheer on an army team. I would much rather watch an army squad and cheer for them. And I really do think there are enough college football enthusiast that would. But I’m not a suit at work.

You’re right. When committees choose the teams, they will routinely bullshit themselves and us, putting their feelings or agendas above the actual results on the field.

Committee Chairman Gary Barta after they put Michigan ahead of MSU in 2021, even though the teams had identical records and MSU had beaten Michigan.

“I would just summarize that the committee went back and forth and, really, the consensus was that Michigan was probably a more complete team. They’re ranked higher than Michigan State in just about every category. That being said, the committee gave great credence to a Michigan State win head-to-head against Michigan.”

It amazes me that the tough guy football fans in this country defend a system that treats football like a beauty pageant. We don’t need judges telling us which team is prettier. We need rules that allow the teams to decide it on the field.

With an expanded field we hope that the best two teams get in, beyond that it is all about the money
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Post by NigelUno 2024-12-03, 10:31

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I would guess Alabama will be competing for the last spot with Miami.

And I think we'll see a 14 team playoff sooner than later.


I get that they’re going to keep expanding. My point is this there will always only be four to six teams with a legitimate shot at a title so the more they expand, the more they are going to be able to pull in the brand names that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets

This is better than the NFL. NFL teams by and large to get in on Merritt. College teams after the first eight, are going to be getting in on popularity. Just my opinion.

Going to 14 should guarantee another (or two) SEC/Big Ten/or ND will get in every year. 9/14 teams will be Big Ten/SEC/ND. It won't shock me if they make some conferences do a play in game at some point. Have the MAC/Sun Belt champs play, and the winner faces the SEC Champ in a 16 team playoff...and all ticket/TV revenue goes to the NCAA.
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Post by Cameron 2024-12-03, 10:35

Fuck it, just copy March Madness. Auto bids for conference champs, shit loads of at large bids, everybody has a shot.
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Post by DWags 2024-12-03, 10:55

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I’m confused, why is that better than the nfl?


Sorry, I meant “better for suits at network “. I had that in my head but didn’t type it.

Yes, it is not better than merit. Nothing is, but for eyes on TV’s suits atnetwork are living the college set up.
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-12-03, 13:59

Pervis Muldoon wrote:
DWags wrote:


You know, I just put this together, 12 teams means you can get the best four of them in, then you can take the next best four.

Then, guess what you can do? You can put in teams that are going to bring eyeballs to the TV sets. This is gonna get really sickening because you know the brand names will be in every year.


With these fuckers don’t realize, is there are a bunch of us that would tune in and cheer on an army team. I would much rather watch an army squad and cheer for them. And I really do think there are enough college football enthusiast that would. But I’m not a suit at work.

You’re right. When committees choose the teams, they will routinely bullshit themselves and us, putting their feelings or agendas above the actual results on the field.

Committee Chairman Gary Barta after they put Michigan ahead of MSU in 2021, even though the teams had identical records and MSU had beaten Michigan.

”I would just summarize that the committee went back and forth and, really, the consensus was that Michigan was probably a more complete team. They’re ranked higher than Michigan State in just about every category. That being said, the committee gave great credence to a Michigan State win head-to-head against Michigan.”

It amazes me that the tough guy football fans in this country defend a system that treats football like a beauty pageant. We don’t need judges telling us which team is prettier. We need rules that allow the teams to decide it on the field.





All these years later and I can still smell the bullshit.
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Post by NigelUno 2024-12-03, 19:19

And...Bama jumped Miami.
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Post by DWags 2024-12-06, 20:14

Ricky white currently 2k reception yards playing Bouse on Fox right now.
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-12-06, 20:39

DWags wrote:Ricky white currently 2k reception yards playing Bouse on Fox right now.



In one game? That’s got to be some kind of record.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2024-12-07, 08:50

Annual reminder that the heisman trophy is a bullshit award that no one should care about or take seriously. The Walter Camp award is the real best player award that people should care about
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-12-07, 09:01

heisman is the same level as early season AP rankings in hoops. More a reflection of the turds flapping their gums on ESPN then reality.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-12-07, 12:57

Fun to see Leavitt playing. Happy for him.

Going with ASU, Texas, SMU and Oregon.

Least confident about Texas.
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Post by Nordic 2024-12-07, 12:58

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Annual reminder that the heisman trophy is a bullshit award that no one should care about or take seriously. The Walter Camp award is the real best player award that people should care about

I get a bonus from my college fantasy league if Travis Hunter wins the Heisman, so you’re wrong Travis.

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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-07, 13:20

Is ok to be just a little salty about the Johnathon / Smith Sam Leavitt dynamic?

I don’t recall much but wasn’t he a local Oregon kid that Smith never offered and doubled down on not make an effort for him while he was at State? Or was Leavitt pretty much a nah from jump over the whole deal once Smith was hired?
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Post by Nordic 2024-12-07, 13:28

kingstonlake wrote:Is ok to be just a little salty about the Johnathon / Smith Sam Leavitt dynamic?

I don’t recall much but wasn’t he a local Oregon kid that Smith never offered and doubled down on not make an effort for him while he was at State? Or was Leavitt pretty much a nah from jump over the whole deal once Smith was hired?

Sure. Fuck Leavitt.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2024-12-07, 14:32

I don’t have beef with leavitt for that. I’m sure he knew smith was going to bring in Chiles, and favored him on account of what happened during recruiting (smith didn’t offer him and he wanted to go to osu) so he left. Makes sense
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-07, 16:27

God I can’t stand Kirby Smart. I’ve never seen a coach who seems to literally have an official assigned to him. Every camera shot an official is having a conversation with him. In the Ga Tech game I’m pretty sure he was holding hands with an official for the entirety of the overtime’s. The GT coach is out there trying to coach and smart is in the field directing traffic to officials.
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Post by Nordic 2024-12-07, 16:38

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I don’t have beef with leavitt for that. I’m sure he knew smith was going to bring in Chiles, and favored him on account of what happened during recruiting (smith didn’t offer him and he wanted to go to osu) so he left. Makes sense

Yep. But then he through a twittertamtrum on the way out the door. Fuck him.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-07, 18:15

Carson Beck injured last play of first half and won’t return. Will the committee have the stones to leave GA out of the playoffs if he can’t go come playoff time?

They did it to FSU.
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Post by DWags 2024-12-07, 18:30

kingstonlake wrote:Carson Beck injured last play of first half and won’t return. Will the committee have the stones to leave GA out of the playoffs if he can’t go come playoff time?

They did it to FSU.



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First drive that often happens. We’ll see
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Post by duffy munn 2024-12-07, 18:38

Nordic wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I don’t have beef with leavitt for that. I’m sure he knew smith was going to bring in Chiles, and favored him on account of what happened during recruiting (smith didn’t offer him and he wanted to go to osu) so he left. Makes sense

Yep. But then he through a twittertamtrum on the way out the door. Fuck him.

What did he tweet?
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-12-07, 18:43

Georgia punter out now. Can you legally punt field goal style?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-12-07, 19:16

Gonna be interesting.

Texas has some work to do.
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