t2024 presidential election thread. Let’s do this. Biden v. Trump II

by TravelinMan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 16:41

PennSpartan wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Ok, well right now you are helping Donald Trump. You hear anything about trump since the debate? No, because he's been quiet while the media ruminates over Biden and craps on his character day in and day out, he doesn't want to steal the spotlight from that so they are doing his work for him. You are helping to feed that. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

I get it, Biden is old, perhaps not the best candidate at this point. But he has a good record, has already beat trump once and knows how to politic around republicans to some extent. Stop helping trump win.
I’m helping Trump??? Do you literally think Biden or Trump or ANYONE besides the 50 or so people on this board are reading my posts? Turn on any TV or radio news station, or pick up any newspaper or online source and this is all that’s being talked about. Biden will not survive this. This is his Gary Hart moment. But I’m flattered that you think I’m so important.

Unless you upvote every Trapper post and say nice things about the "goodest" President ever, you are clearly a MAGA idiot who supports raping women and shooting innocent children.

That's how this board works, Penn. Come on. You know that!

by TravelinMan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 16:42

kingstonlake wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Agreed. I just wish it was against the guy (or gal) that could still count to 25.

Is 25 the over/under on babysitters he groped? Dogs he ate? Brain worms he has?

I'm guessing that sounded funnier in your head?

by **kingstonlake** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 16:50

TravelinMan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Is 25 the over/under on babysitters he groped? Dogs he ate? Brain worms he has?

I'm guessing that sounded funnier in your head?

Should I have added Covid was created to spare the Jews and Chinese? Comedy isn’t my forte.

by **DWags** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:02

PennSpartan wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Ok, well right now you are helping Donald Trump. You hear anything about trump since the debate? No, because he's been quiet while the media ruminates over Biden and craps on his character day in and day out, he doesn't want to steal the spotlight from that so they are doing his work for him. You are helping to feed that. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

I get it, Biden is old, perhaps not the best candidate at this point. But he has a good record, has already beat trump once and knows how to politic around republicans to some extent. Stop helping trump win.
I’m helping Trump??? Do you literally think Biden or Trump or ANYONE besides the 50 or so people on this board are reading my posts? Turn on any TV or radio news station, or pick up any newspaper or online source and this is all that’s being talked about. Biden will not survive this. This is his Gary Hart moment. But I’m flattered that you think I’m so important.

You personally right now, right here aren’t helping Trump with any of us, But you are a perfect example of a person who does help Trump. Weather on purpose or naivety

by TravelinMan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:07

DWags wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
I’m helping Trump??? Do you literally think Biden or Trump or ANYONE besides the 50 or so people on this board are reading my posts? Turn on any TV or radio news station, or pick up any newspaper or online source and this is all that’s being talked about. Biden will not survive this. This is his Gary Hart moment. But I’m flattered that you think I’m so important.

You personally right now, right here aren’t helping Trump with any of us, But you are a perfect example of a person who does help Trump. Weather on purpose or naivety

You say what you say, because you think Biden is the best chance to win.

Penn doesn't believe that.

It's not like you're spitting facts here. It's all opinion and fear at this point.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:08

DWags wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
I’m helping Trump??? Do you literally think Biden or Trump or ANYONE besides the 50 or so people on this board are reading my posts? Turn on any TV or radio news station, or pick up any newspaper or online source and this is all that’s being talked about. Biden will not survive this. This is his Gary Hart moment. But I’m flattered that you think I’m so important.

You personally right now, right here aren’t helping Trump with any of us, But you are a perfect example of a person who does help Trump. Weather on purpose or naivety

America is a stupid country and we get what we deserve.

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:09

DWags wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
I’m helping Trump??? Do you literally think Biden or Trump or ANYONE besides the 50 or so people on this board are reading my posts? Turn on any TV or radio news station, or pick up any newspaper or online source and this is all that’s being talked about. Biden will not survive this. This is his Gary Hart moment. But I’m flattered that you think I’m so important.

You personally right now, right here aren’t helping Trump with any of us, But you are a perfect example of a person who does help Trump. Weather on purpose or naivety

Interesting. I sent a donation to Biden just before the debate. When was your last donation?

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:10

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:

You personally right now, right here aren’t helping Trump with any of us, But you are a perfect example of a person who does help Trump. Weather on purpose or naivety
America is a stupid country and we get what we deserve.

No, America is a great country. But we have stupid people.

by **DWags** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:17

PennSpartan wrote:
DWags wrote:

You personally right now, right here aren’t helping Trump with any of us, But you are a perfect example of a person who does help Trump. Weather on purpose or naivety
Interesting. I sent a donation to Biden just before the debate. When was your last donation?

You donate way more to Trump diary publishing these Storage constantly day after day after day, many of Which are ba. You are parroting all the right wing talking points on the Internet is an example of how Trump’s minions help him daily

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:23

DWags wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
Interesting. I sent a donation to Biden just before the debate. When was your last donation?

You donate way more to Trump diary publishing these Storage constantly day after day after day, many of Which are ba. You are parroting all the right wing talking points on the Internet is an example of how Trump’s minions help him daily

I can’t make sense of this comment. English version, please. I make my opinions known on a private message board. I thought that was the purpose of this?

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:23

PennSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:America is a stupid country and we get what we deserve.
No, America is a great country. But we have stupid people. Like you.

dude, I'm the biggest idiot I know.

But at least I knew Joe Biden was old before the mainstream media and republicans/libertarians had to tell me.

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:27

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
No, America is a great country. But we have stupid people. Like you.
dude, I'm the biggest idiot I know.

But at least I knew Joe Biden was old before the mainstream media and republicans/libertarians had to tell me.

No Bob, you’re not an idiot. I’m sorry I insulted you. But attacking our country day after day helps nothing. Harris Vs. Trump 2024. The battle to save America. Lets do this. 969504605

Harris Vs. Trump 2024. The battle to save America. Lets do this. 969504605

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:43

PennSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: dude, I'm the biggest idiot I know.

But at least I knew Joe Biden was old before the mainstream media and republicans/libertarians had to tell me.
No Bob, you’re not an idiot. I’m sorry I insulted you. But attacking our country day after day helps nothing.

thanks, man..

I just don't have a very lofty opinion of my fellow patriot. Harris Vs. Trump 2024. The battle to save America. Lets do this. 502811600

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:50

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
No Bob, you’re not an idiot. I’m sorry I insulted you. But attacking our country day after day helps nothing.
thanks, man..

I just don't have a very lofty opinion of my fellow patriot.

There a lot of good people in this country doing good work. They just don’t get much credit.

by **Cameron** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 17:58

by **DWags** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 18:00

PennSpartan wrote:
DWags wrote:

You donate way more to Trump diary publishing these Storage constantly day after day after day, many of Which are ba. You are parroting all the right wing talking points on the Internet is an example of how Trump’s minions help him daily
I can’t make sense of this comment. English version, please. I make my opinions known on a private message board. I thought that was the purpose of this?

Voice to text. It saves me time, but it doesn’t make sense I can’t even remember what I said, but I know it was witty and well thought out

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 18:04

TravelinMan wrote:
DWags wrote:

Call me crazy, but I think we should vote for the guy who doesn’t support project 2025.

Agreed. I just wish it was against the guy (or gal) that could still count to 25.

Good news. That guy is Trump.so you get a twofer

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 18:16

Cameron wrote:

Funny stuff, Cam. I just wish it wasn’t funny.

by **GRR Spartan** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 18:44

Biden's media trouble stems from news coverage of Trump's propensity to lie started in NYC media at least 25 years ago. Trump lying about US domestic and foreign policy and political opponents officially began in June 2015.

Trump lying isn't news for businesses desperate for clicks and audiences.

Biden health news feeds the beast.

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:15

GRR Spartan wrote:Biden's media trouble stems from news coverage of Trump's propensity to lie started in NYC media at least 25 years ago. Trump lying about US domestic and foreign policy and political opponents officially began in June 2015.

Trump lying isn't news for businesses desperate for clicks and audiences.

Biden health news feeds the beast.

The media has lost its way as a serious source of information. You might as well watch "The Bachlor"

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:20

Trapper Gus wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Biden's media trouble stems from news coverage of Trump's propensity to lie started in NYC media at least 25 years ago. Trump lying about US domestic and foreign policy and political opponents officially began in June 2015.

Trump lying isn't news for businesses desperate for clicks and audiences.

Biden health news feeds the beast.

The media has lost its way as a serious source of information. You might as well watch "The Bachlor"

Probably should get all of your information from Q, like Trump does Trapper.

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:34

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

The media has lost its way as a serious source of information. You might as well watch "The Bachlor"
Probably should get all of your information from Q, like Trump does Trapper.

Unlike you I sort of like to have some idea of what is going on.

by TravelinMan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:48

Trapper Gus wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Biden's media trouble stems from news coverage of Trump's propensity to lie started in NYC media at least 25 years ago. Trump lying about US domestic and foreign policy and political opponents officially began in June 2015.

Trump lying isn't news for businesses desperate for clicks and audiences.

Biden health news feeds the beast.

The media has lost its way as a serious source of information. You might as well watch "The Bachlor"

Which goes back to my question that no one wanted to respond to:

If the media is against Biden, how can he win? And if he can't, then doesn't he have an obligation to step down so that we don't lose freedom and Democracy?

by TravelinMan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:51

PennSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: dude, I'm the biggest idiot I know.

But at least I knew Joe Biden was old before the mainstream media and republicans/libertarians had to tell me.
No Bob, you’re not an idiot. I’m sorry I insulted you. But attacking our country day after day helps nothing.

Don't let them bait you, Penn. They just want to make you angry so that you say something bad, get banned, and then they can go back to their left wing liberal AOC/Biden circle jerk. Dissenting opinions scare them.

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:55

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

The media has lost its way as a serious source of information. You might as well watch "The Bachlor"

Which goes back to my question that no one wanted to respond to:

If the media is against Biden, how can he win? And if he can't, then doesn't he have an obligation to step down so that we don't lose freedom and Democracy?

Short answer is he won in 2020 & 2022 with the media against him.

Slightly longer answer is that part of the country now understands that the media is biased against him.

by **Trapper Gus** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 19:56

TravelinMan wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
No Bob, you’re not an idiot. I’m sorry I insulted you. But attacking our country day after day helps nothing.

Don't let them bait you, Penn. They just want to make you angry so that you say something bad, get banned, and then they can go back to their left wing liberal AOC/Biden circle jerk. Dissenting opinions scare them.

I don't.

I just want him to not be so hair triggered when people disagree with him.

by PennSpartan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 20:00

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Which goes back to my question that no one wanted to respond to:

If the media is against Biden, how can he win? And if he can't, then doesn't he have an obligation to step down so that we don't lose freedom and Democracy?

Short answer is he won in 2020 & 2022 with the media against him.

Slightly longer answer is that part of the country now understands that the media is biased against him.

Good. I hope Joe understands that the media knows he’s incapable. Mentally unfit. Unstable. He deserves it.

by TravelinMan Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 20:00

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Which goes back to my question that no one wanted to respond to:

If the media is against Biden, how can he win? And if he can't, then doesn't he have an obligation to step down so that we don't lose freedom and Democracy?

Short answer is he won in 2020 & 2022 with the media against him.

Slightly longer answer is that part of the country now understands that the media is biased against him.

Joe Biden won reelection in 2022?!?

This is news to me.

by **NigelUno** Tue 9 Jul 2024 - 20:25

TravelinMan wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
No Bob, you’re not an idiot. I’m sorry I insulted you. But attacking our country day after day helps nothing.

Don't let them bait you, Penn. They just want to make you angry so that you say something bad, get banned, and then they can go back to their left wing liberal AOC/Biden circle jerk. Dissenting opinions scare them.

by **Trapper Gus** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 8:51

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by **DWags** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 9:36

If Joe Biden would get confused as to whether his son was married or not, how would the MSM handle it?

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by **Trapper Gus** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 9:48

Just a reminder that Trump is a convicted rapist, but that most of the victims don't have the balls of Stormy...

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by **kingstonlake** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 12:07

George Clooney has called for Biden to drop out.

Just held a fund raiser for him last month that raised $30 million

Take it for what it’s worth.

by TravelinMan Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 16:27

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
This post is gish gallop

My first to points were my opinions, so those don't count in any Gish Gallop.

Of the last two I have already posted links showing the reactions of focus groups, so I will not repeat, you can go find them from yesterday in this thread.

To the final point...

The Biden campaign has raised $27 million starting from the day of the first presidential debate through Friday evening, a campaign spokesperson announced on Saturday.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/06/29/biden-campaign-fundraises-27-million-post-debate.html

Do you really want to challenge me on data?

Yes I know you are trying yo mock the Gish Gallop term, but that doesn't fly in this case.

Good thing they raised that $27M. Looks like Danny Ocean just did $30M worth of damage to the campaign!

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/opinion/joe-biden-democratic-nominee.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

by **Trapper Gus** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 19:09

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

My first to points were my opinions, so those don't count in any Gish Gallop.

Of the last two I have already posted links showing the reactions of focus groups, so I will not repeat, you can go find them from yesterday in this thread.

To the final point...

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/06/29/biden-campaign-fundraises-27-million-post-debate.html

Do you really want to challenge me on data?

Yes I know you are trying yo mock the Gish Gallop term, but that doesn't fly in this case.

Good thing they raised that $27M. Looks like Danny Ocean just did $30M worth of damage to the campaign!

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/opinion/joe-biden-democratic-nominee.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

George Clooney is a pretty attractive actor, though he has probably lost a step or two.

His office is refusing to answer questions about this.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 19:12

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 19:46

just looked at Fox News and they had a headline celebrating George Clooney's op-ed (or whatever he wrote)

kinda funny to see republicans/libertarians and the mainstream media suddenly think that Hollywood is worthy of providing us a keen insight on politics. Harris Vs. Trump 2024. The battle to save America. Lets do this. 502811600

by **The Pantry** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 21:16

Robert J Sakimano wrote:just looked at Fox News and they had a headline celebrating George Clooney's op-ed (or whatever he wrote)

kinda funny to see republicans/libertarians and the mainstream media suddenly think that Hollywood is worthy of providing us a keen insight on politics.

Not just Fox news. All media is spouting his "celebrity" opinion.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed 10 Jul 2024 - 21:50

George Clooney is like the definition of a celebrity I have no idea why that would be in quotes

by **Robert J Sakimano** Thu 11 Jul 2024 - 6:19

The Pantry wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:just looked at Fox News and they had a headline celebrating George Clooney's op-ed (or whatever he wrote)

kinda funny to see republicans/libertarians and the mainstream media suddenly think that Hollywood is worthy of providing us a keen insight on politics.
Not just Fox news. All media is spouting his "celebrity" opinion.

exactly.

the mainstream media loves celebrities when they're promoting the same agenda.

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