The major problem in America is that 30 to 35% of Americans believe this.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:America is a stupid country.

also, be aware of people who mock a female for.... laughing.

guys of tSwill - which is everyone but Dendro.. what would you do if your daughter to you that her boyfriend mocked her when she laughed?

That's the kind of misogyny republicans/libertarians are rooted into.

DWags wrote:Be afraid, because if you’re not afraid, then you must be insane.

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DWags wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
I don’t know what I would do if my daughter’s boyfriend mocked her for laughing, Bob. But if he said America is a stupid country I would cave his face in.

That’s not justice. Have you never watched the Godfather? And the undertaker’s Daughter had been beaten by the boys who wanted to have sex with her, And the undertaker asked for the favor at The Godfather’s daughters wedding, He wanted the boys killed. Don Corleone, Said “ But that’s not justice, Your daughter is alive still”.

But I don’t know Penn maybe you would.

PennSpartan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:America is a stupid country.

also, be aware of people who mock a female for.... laughing.

guys of tSwill - which is everyone but Dendro.. what would you do if your daughter to you that her boyfriend mocked her when she laughed?

That's the kind of misogyny republicans/libertarians are rooted into.

I don’t know what I would do if my daughter’s boyfriend mocked her for laughing, Bob. But if he said America is a stupid country I would cave his face in.

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:America is a stupid country.

also, be aware of people who mock a female for.... laughing.

guys of tSwill - which is everyone but Dendro.. what would you do if your daughter to you that her boyfriend mocked her when she laughed?

That's the kind of misogyny republicans/libertarians are rooted into.

Fortunately my daughters, either one, have never suffered fools. All credit to their mother on that. So, if you add, “and they still wanted to date the guy” because I’m 99% sure they both think life is to short and precious to let someone, try to control you in anyway.

But I’d simply tell them I’ll honor their wish to date the guy, but I have to be told when he’s coming over as I won’t be in the house at the same time as he will be.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
I don’t know what I would do if my daughter’s boyfriend mocked her for laughing, Bob. But if he said America is a stupid country I would cave his face in.

violence isn't something I would promote.

DWags wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Yeah, I was overreacting DWags.  But I love this country.  My parents taught me that.  We have unparalleled natural resources.  Hardworking people.  And we’ve kept the world safe from dictators a few times.  I don’t understand people hating America.  Is it perfect?  Hell no. Lots of issues.  But just like MSU, in spite of the issues I still love it.

I don’t think it’s hate as much as it’s frustration.  Look at everything you just said about America.  It’s all true.  So why in the year 2024 do we still have people not on the same footing as other people?  Why can’t we feed our children in schools?   Why doesn’t everybody have healthcare?  We have the resources we have the ability. We just don’t have the selflessness.    This country could indeed be a shiny beacon on the hill, But we choose not to be.  And we do it under the same guys that made this country great.  “ They need to pull themselves up by the boot straps, Nothing is free in this country”. “ Work hard or get left behind”.  

We lost, or maybe we never had, compassion and empathy for those that are unable to do what we do.  We can’t understand why they just can’t do what we do, and yes, many of them just refused to, But don’t because they aren’t able.   January 14 until now my leg has cost about a quarter of $1 million to fix.   What if I had jumped that woodpile and I had just worked my ass off every day of my life as a custodian in a factory that didn’t give health benefits?  Where would that put me?   Dead?  

So I get Both ends of that.  America is a great country, but we often drop the ball because of greed and selfishness.  And that’s just stupid

PennSpartan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:violence isn't something I would promote.

“what would you do if your daughter to you that her boyfriend mocked her when she laughed?”

Then why did you ask this?

DWags wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
Yeah, I was overreacting DWags.  But I love this country.  My parents taught me that.  We have unparalleled natural resources.  Hardworking people.  And we’ve kept the world safe from dictators a few times.  I don’t understand people hating America.  Is it perfect?  Hell no. Lots of issues.  But just like MSU, in spite of the issues I still love it.

I don’t think it’s hate as much as it’s frustration.  Look at everything you just said about America.  It’s all true.  So why in the year 2024 do we still have people not on the same footing as other people?  Why can’t we feed our children in schools?   Why doesn’t everybody have healthcare?  We have the resources we have the ability. We just don’t have the selflessness.    This country could indeed be a shiny beacon on the hill, But we choose not to be.  And we do it under the same guise that made this country great.  “ They need to pull themselves up by the boot straps, Nothing is free in this country”. “ Work hard or get left behind”.  

We lost, or maybe we never had, compassion and empathy for those that are unable to do what we do.  We can’t understand why they just can’t do what we do, and yes, many of them just refused to, But some don’t because they aren’t able.   January 14 until now my leg has cost about a quarter of $1 million to fix.   What if I had jumped that woodpile and I had just worked my ass off every day of my life as a custodian in a factory that didn’t give health benefits?  Where would that put me?   Dead?  

So I get Both ends of that.  America is a great country, but we often drop the ball because of greed and selfishness.  And that’s just stupid

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
“what would you do if your daughter to you that her boyfriend mocked her when she laughed?”

Then why did you ask this?

is was an esoteric question. It wasn't directly meant for you.

if you would 'cave his face in', that's cool - it's just not the way I would handle a situation where someone had a different opinion than mine.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:America is a stupid country.

also, be aware of people who mock a female for.... laughing.

guys of tSwill - which is everyone but Dendro.. what would you do if your daughter to you that her boyfriend mocked her when she laughed?

That's the kind of misogyny republicans/libertarians are rooted into.

PennSpartan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: is was an esoteric question. It wasn't directly meant for you.

if you would 'cave his face in', that's cool - it's just not the way I would handle a situation where someone had a different opinion than mine.

My reaction was esoteric as well then, lol. You have repeated your feelings about America and I will repeat mine. I love this country. I’m sorry you don’t.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Penn I think you’re legit confusing what Bob means by stupid. He’s not using slang like America is bad or I don’t like America. He’s saying the people of America are stupid as evidenced by the 49% that willingly vote for a failed reality star for President. And in that respect he’s not wrong. Though I suppose you could argue that few countries are markedly smarter and that humans are just kind of stupid

PennSpartan wrote:

DWags wrote:


I don’t think it’s hate as much as it’s frustration.  Look at everything you just said about America.  It’s all true.  So why in the year 2024 do we still have people not on the same footing as other people?  Why can’t we feed our children in schools?   Why doesn’t everybody have healthcare?  We have the resources we have the ability. We just don’t have the selflessness.    This country could indeed be a shiny beacon on the hill, But we choose not to be.  And we do it under the same guise that made this country great.  “ They need to pull themselves up by the boot straps, Nothing is free in this country”. “ Work hard or get left behind”.  

We lost, or maybe we never had, compassion and empathy for those that are unable to do what we do.  We can’t understand why they just can’t do what we do, and yes, many of them just refused to, But some don’t because they aren’t able.   January 14 until now my leg has cost about a quarter of $1 million to fix.   What if I had jumped that woodpile and I had just worked my ass off every day of my life as a custodian in a factory that didn’t give health benefits?  Where would that put me?   Dead?  

So I get Both ends of that.  America is a great country, but we often drop the ball because of greed and selfishness.  And that’s just stupid

I wonder if the idea that we are a “melting pot” is a double sided blade. We have lots of different ideas of how things should be. Countries that are more homogeneous tend to think alike perhaps? This is the first I have heard about your leg problem. I hope everything turns out well for you.

Trapper Gus wrote:

PennSpartan wrote:
I wonder if the idea that we are a “melting pot” is a double sided blade. We have lots of different ideas of how things should be. Countries that are more homogeneous tend to think alike perhaps? This is the first I have heard about your leg problem. I hope everything turns out well for you.

I take an philosophical viewpoint to that question.

If we all think the same way we are weak in that we all have the same weakness. Having people who see different ways of living, as long as most of them believe is a consensus form of government, strengthens us as a whole.

Even our government, with its three branches does this...the legislative branch allows us to work out, over time, the best set of laws, the executive provides, in times of crisis, the strong decision making, and the judiciary keep the other two in line

PennSpartan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: is was an esoteric question. It wasn't directly meant for you.

if you would 'cave his face in', that's cool - it's just not the way I would handle a situation where someone had a different opinion than mine.

My reaction was esoteric as well then, lol. You have repeated your feelings about America and I will repeat mine. I love this country. I’m sorry you don’t.

DWags wrote:Everybody give me the first five words you think of when you think of America/Americans.

Greed
Ambition
Arrogance
Ruthless
Kind.


Is that weird?

DWags wrote:Everybody give me the first five words you think of when you think of America/Americans.

Greed
Ambition
Arrogance
Ruthless
Kind.


Is that weird?

Cameron wrote:Fuck Bob.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Penn I think you’re legit confusing what Bob means by stupid. He’s not using slang like America is bad or I don’t like America. He’s saying the people of America are stupid as evidenced by the 49% that willingly vote for a failed reality star for President. And in that respect he’s not wrong. Though I suppose you could argue that few countries are markedly smarter and that humans are just kind of stupid