Harris Vs. Trump 2024. The battle to save America. Lets do this.

“My father is running out of lives here,” son Eric Trump told Fox News’s Sean Hannity. “How many more rifles are going to come within assassination distance of my father?”

Floyd Robertson wrote:

“My father is running out of lives here,” son Eric Trump told Fox News’s Sean Hannity. “How many more rifles are going to come within assassination distance of my father?”

With 50 days until Election Day, Harris leads Trump, the Republican nominee, 49%-46% in Pennsylvania, a statewide poll of 500 likely Pennsylvania voters conducted from Wednesday to Sunday found. The results are within the poll's margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. [...]

The poll found a wide gender gap that is benefiting the vice president. Harris leads female voters in Pennsylvania 56%-39%, while Trump tops male voters by a slimmer 53%-41%, according to the poll. Harris edged Trump among Pennsylvania's independent voters 43%-38%. [...]

Floyd Robertson wrote:

“My father is running out of lives here,” son Eric Trump told Fox News’s Sean Hannity. “How many more rifles are going to come within assassination distance of my father?”

Robert J Sakimano wrote:it's important, too, to remember that these 'assassination attempts', the vile hatred, bomb threats, political violence/terrorism, etc., is is a pre-Election Day/certification process dog whistle to republicans/libertarians, should their christian hero lose.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:it's important, too, to remember that these 'assassination attempts', the vile hatred, bomb threats, political violence/terrorism, etc., is is a pre-Election Day/certification process dog whistle to republicans/libertarians, should their christian hero lose.

Nor much of a dog whistle when Mask has asked why there haven't been any attempts on Biden/Harris.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Nor much of a dog whistle when Mask has asked why there haven't been any attempts on Biden/Harris.

there is no bottom when it comes to republicans/libertarians. 49 days from Election Day and it's gonna get even uglier.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:


there is no bottom when it comes to republicans/libertarians. 49 days from Election Day and it's gonna get even uglier.

Unlike the MAGA supporters shooting but missing or outing themselves before they shoot when they go after Harris they will be shooting to hit.

It is sadly obvious that Trump & Musk may be trying to get someone to kill Biden & Harris, causing Mike Johnson to be acting President.

NigelUno wrote:

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

I didn't say that specifically.  You're not looking at the big picture.  The subject matter of that crazy dog shit is not truly relevant except in the way that it gets a lot of attention .Strategically he is most likely running a denial strategy used in war.  You suck the oxygen out of the room essentially.  A defensive strategy that makes it prohibitively difficult for your adversary to achieve their objectives.  At this point, there is no question that this is an easily observed pattern and I would bet you a lot of money that the trump campaign had evidence (data) to show that running such a campaign works somewhat for Donald Trump.  This outlandish crap wouldn't work for everyone though but trump has the unique ability to hang on to the majority of his votes no matter what he does or says, which enables this as a potentially effective strategy.  It's easy to do too as long as you have material to capture the media's attention.  Thanks to an endless supply of crazy behind him, on any given day he could come up with a new crazy thing to talk about.

Trump is a crazy vain fuck but he has a no nonsense persona to his acolytes and he actually has a lot of smart and morally untethered people advising him.  Throw in a little ability to act and you got yourself a potent propaganda machine.

The votes he already has aren't enough.  

Acting like an asshole makes someone unlikable.  You're completely discounting how important that is.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

The votes he already has aren't enough.  

Acting like an asshole makes someone unlikable.  You're completely discounting how important that is.

Swing states are pretty darn close.  Looks like it could be enough... Potentially.  Also you assume politics in a vacuum.  There are other ways to acquire an advantage that puts you over the top, such as additional voter suppression beyond this.  Additionally you assume the whole being an ass hole turn off benefits Harris which is not a given.  Just because trump is an ass doesn't mean they will flee to Harris.  The whole point of this, IMO is denying Harris the ability to appeal to them by filling the air with his nonsense so if these people even just become a suppressed vote, that's a win for trump.  A lot of these people that are undecided are likely to be disgruntled "both sides are bad" people so trump being a dick turns them away but him being a dick has a good shot of just suppressing them as well.

Again, this whole situation is FAR more complex than people want to admit and trump is in fact executing his strategy successfully.  However as you say it's not a given that it will be enough.  I happen to think polls might be overestimating trump this year, his excitement, fervor, whatever you want to call it is way way down this cycle and I have a feeling that will heavily impact turnout on election days.  or at the very least underestimating the Democrat side thanks to Roe v. Wade being abolished.   Correct me if I'm wrong but polling does generally a good job of measuring the opinions of the populace at scale but can whiff on the results of turnout  fails to materialize.  

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Swing states are pretty darn close.  Looks like it could be enough... Potentially.  Also you assume politics in a vacuum.  There are other ways to acquire an advantage that puts you over the top, such as additional voter suppression beyond this.  Additionally you assume the whole being an ass hole turn off benefits Harris which is not a given.  Just because trump is an ass doesn't mean they will flee to Harris.  The whole point of this, IMO is denying Harris the ability to appeal to them by filling the air with his nonsense so if these people even just become a suppressed vote, that's a win for trump.  A lot of these people that are undecided are likely to be disgruntled "both sides are bad" people so trump being a dick turns them away but him being a dick has a good shot of just suppressing them as well.

Again, this whole situation is FAR more complex than people want to admit and trump is in fact executing his strategy successfully.  However as you say it's not a given that it will be enough.  I happen to think polls might be overestimating trump this year, his excitement, fervor, whatever you want to call it is way way down this cycle and I have a feeling that will heavily impact turnout on election days.  or at the very least underestimating the Democrat side thanks to Roe v. Wade being abolished.   Correct me if I'm wrong but polling does generally a good job of measuring the opinions of the populace at scale but can whiff on the results of turnout  fails to materialize.  

I think the pollsters have a difficult time measuring the decency variable when it comes to the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon and his supporters.

they're the people who insist out loud (usually over and over) how opposed they are to him, despite the fact that they're republicans/libertarians, and that they're voting for Harris. It somehow helps them sleep at night, it helps them get along with family, friends, colleagues.

but then we really know who they vote for when it's just them and their ballot.

that's a difficult demographic to focus in on, to delineate within the construct of statistical methodology. We even see those folks here at tSwill so you know they're amplified in the population as a whole.

that's why it's so important for decent people who love America, the Constitution, their families, etc., to stay engaged, to stay away from the predictable mainstream media/Russia talking points. To keep their eye on the ball and not become calloused, desensitized to the point that they give up.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I think the pollsters have a difficult time measuring the decency variable when it comes to the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon and his supporters.

they're the people who insist out loud (usually over and over) how opposed they are to him, despite the fact that they're republicans/libertarians, and that they're voting for Harris. It somehow helps them sleep at night, it helps them get along with family, friends, colleagues.

but then we really know who they vote for when it's just them and their ballot.

that's a difficult demographic to focus in on, to delineate within the construct of statistical methodology. We even see those folks here at tSwill so you know they're amplified in the population as a whole.

that's why it's so important for decent people who love America, the Constitution, their families, etc., to stay engaged, to stay away from the predictable mainstream media/Russia talking points. To keep their eye on the ball and not become calloused, desensitized to the point that they give up.

Agreed, there are a lot of difficulties when trying to predict the future.

NigelUno wrote:

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Swing states are pretty darn close.  Looks like it could be enough... Potentially.  Also you assume politics in a vacuum.  There are other ways to acquire an advantage that puts you over the top, such as additional voter suppression beyond this.  Additionally you assume the whole being an ass hole turn off benefits Harris which is not a given.  Just because trump is an ass doesn't mean they will flee to Harris.  The whole point of this, IMO is denying Harris the ability to appeal to them by filling the air with his nonsense so if these people even just become a suppressed vote, that's a win for trump.  A lot of these people that are undecided are likely to be disgruntled "both sides are bad" people so trump being a dick turns them away but him but the whole act of being a dick has a good shot of just suppressing them as well.

Again, this whole situation is FAR more complex than people want to admit and trump is in fact executing his strategy successfully.  However as you say it's not a given that it will be enough.  I happen to think polls might be overestimating trump this year, his excitement, fervor, whatever you want to call it is way way down this cycle and I have a feeling that will heavily impact turnout on election days.  or at the very least  they may be underestimating the Democrat side thanks to Roe v. Wade being abolished.   Correct me if I'm wrong but polling does generally a good job of measuring the opinions of the populace at scale but can whiff on the results if turnout  fails to materialize.  They can measure likely voters all they want but at the end of the day quickly answering a poll question about your intentions is different than actually crawling out of your trailer in election day to cast your vote.  Low excitement around the campaign reduces that unity trump supporters remark feeling (being part of something bigger) and it's not a big leap to suggest that reduced unity) excitement can impact turnout in the end

I don't think it's complex at all.  Trump is a narcissistic grifter.  He's going to say what he wants, even though his own advisors tell him to tone it down and stay on message.  

If your point is that he's smarter than his advisors.  I disagree.  He's not smarter than anyone.

He needs to gain votes.  If someone is still undecided at this point, they weren't voting for Harris anyway.  And they're not going to vote for Trump enough that it will matter.

You can't complain about the media being consumed with Trump, when you're consumed with Trump.  No one is watching the evening news to figure out who to vote for.  

Trump being an asshole costs him more votes at this point.  His ability to gain votes by being an asshole is capped.  

This shit is over.  He knows that.  He's not going to do another debate, because he knows it doesn't help him.  If he (and his advisors) were so fucking smart about him stealing all the oxygen, then he would obviously do another debate, right?  

NigelUno wrote:

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Swing states are pretty darn close.  Looks like it could be enough... Potentially.  Also you assume politics in a vacuum.  There are other ways to acquire an advantage that puts you over the top, such as additional voter suppression beyond this.  Additionally you assume the whole being an ass hole turn off benefits Harris which is not a given.  Just because trump is an ass doesn't mean they will flee to Harris.  The whole point of this, IMO is denying Harris the ability to appeal to them by filling the air with his nonsense so if these people even just become a suppressed vote, that's a win for trump.  A lot of these people that are undecided are likely to be disgruntled "both sides are bad" people so trump being a dick turns them away but him but the whole act of being a dick has a good shot of just suppressing them as well.

Again, this whole situation is FAR more complex than people want to admit and trump is in fact executing his strategy successfully.  However as you say it's not a given that it will be enough.  I happen to think polls might be overestimating trump this year, his excitement, fervor, whatever you want to call it is way way down this cycle and I have a feeling that will heavily impact turnout on election days.  or at the very least  they may be underestimating the Democrat side thanks to Roe v. Wade being abolished.   Correct me if I'm wrong but polling does generally a good job of measuring the opinions of the populace at scale but can whiff on the results if turnout  fails to materialize.  They can measure likely voters all they want but at the end of the day quickly answering a poll question about your intentions is different than actually crawling out of your trailer in election day to cast your vote.  Low excitement around the campaign reduces that unity trump supporters remark feeling (being part of something bigger) and it's not a big leap to suggest that reduced unity) excitement can impact turnout in the end

I don't think it's complex at all.  Trump is a narcissistic grifter.  He's going to say what he wants, even though his own advisors tell him to tone it down and stay on message.  

If your point is that he's smarter than his advisors.  I disagree.  He's not smarter than anyone.

He needs to gain votes.  If someone is still undecided at this point, they weren't voting for Harris anyway.  And they're not going to vote for Trump enough that it will matter.

You can't complain about the media being consumed with Trump, when you're consumed with Trump.  No one is watching the evening news to figure out who to vote for.  

Trump being an asshole costs him more votes at this point.  His ability to gain votes by being an asshole is capped.  

This shit is over.  He knows that.  He's not going to do another debate, because he knows it doesn't help him.  If he (and his advisors) were so fucking smart about him stealing all the oxygen, then he would obviously do another debate, right?  

Heat Miser wrote:He's getting a little taste of what American children have to go thru every day when they go to school.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Nor much of a dog whistle when Mask has asked why there haven't been any attempts on Biden/Harris.

Hell, Vance said the same fucking thing at a rally last night.

I suppose he dressed up as saying that it shows that the left are the violent ones, but the message was there.  

The extreme irony of saying that after they have caused bomb threats against schools and government building, and for two colleges to switch to online classes over shooting threats.  All because they "created a story so that the media will pay attention".

Trapper Gus wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Hell, Vance said the same fucking thing at a rally last night.

I suppose he dressed up as saying that it shows that the left are the violent ones, but the message was there.  

The extreme irony of saying that after they have caused bomb threats against schools and government building, and for two colleges to switch to online classes over shooting threats.  All because they "created a story so that the media will pay attention".

I'm joining the group that believes the attacks on Trump are fake.  Two different MAGA crazies attempt to kill Trump and both miss, not likely.

Trapper Gus wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Hell, Vance said the same fucking thing at a rally last night.

I suppose he dressed up as saying that it shows that the left are the violent ones, but the message was there.  

The extreme irony of saying that after they have caused bomb threats against schools and government building, and for two colleges to switch to online classes over shooting threats.  All because they "created a story so that the media will pay attention".

I'm joining the group that believes the attacks on Trump are fake.  Two different MAGA crazies attempt to kill Trump and both miss, not likely.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

I'm joining the group that believes the attacks on Trump are fake.  Two different MAGA crazies attempt to kill Trump and both miss, not likely.

I know a lot of yahoos think I'm insane for thinking they're staged. But for decades, I've been a bit of an outlier, so I'm not concerned with that.

But yeah, a lot of it just a) doesn't add up and b) seems manufactured.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I know a lot of yahoos think I'm insane for thinking they're staged. But for decades, I've been a bit of an outlier, so I'm not concerned with that.

But yeah, a lot of it just a) doesn't add up and b) seems manufactured.

I'm asking if Biden & Harris will still be alive in November...

Arkansas Republican Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders took a swipe at Vice President Kamala Harris Tuesday night at a campaign event for former President Donald Trump, saying that her children keep her "humble" and that it's unfortunate Harris "doesn't have anything keeping her humble."

Sanders added that the most important title she has is being a mother. "Not only do my kids serve as a permanent reminder of what's important, they also keep me humble," Sanders said, sharing a moment when her daughter was getting ready for a father-daughter dance years ago. "As I'm talking to her, I'm telling her how proud I am of her, how thankful I am that God chose us to be her parents. How beautiful she is on the inside and out," Sanders said, adding how emotional she was getting in the moment.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:What happens to the ticket if one of the presidential candidates gets it right before the election? Does it move to the VP?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Sarah Huckabee Colonel Sanders attacks Kamala Harris for not having 'biological' children.

Arkansas Republican Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders took a swipe at Vice President Kamala Harris Tuesday night at a campaign event for former President Donald Trump, saying that her children keep her "humble" and that it's unfortunate Harris "doesn't have anything keeping her humble."

Sanders added that the most important title she has is being a mother. "Not only do my kids serve as a permanent reminder of what's important, they also keep me humble," Sanders said, sharing a moment when her daughter was getting ready for a father-daughter dance years ago. "As I'm talking to her, I'm telling her how proud I am of her, how thankful I am that God chose us to be her parents. How beautiful she is on the inside and out," Sanders said, adding how emotional she was getting in the moment.

jesus fucking christ... not only are christians incredibly cruel, hateful and petty, but from a political standpoint, it's like they don't even want women voting for them.

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TravelinMan wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Sarah Huckabee Colonel Sanders attacks Kamala Harris for not having 'biological' children.







jesus fucking christ... not only are christians incredibly cruel, hateful and petty, but from a political standpoint, it's like they don't even want women voting for them.

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The Republican’s fascination with breeding is creepy.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Sarah Huckabee Colonel Sanders attacks Kamala Harris for not having 'biological' children.

Arkansas Republican Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders took a swipe at Vice President Kamala Harris Tuesday night at a campaign event for former President Donald Trump, saying that her children keep her "humble" and that it's unfortunate Harris "doesn't have anything keeping her humble."

Sanders added that the most important title she has is being a mother. "Not only do my kids serve as a permanent reminder of what's important, they also keep me humble," Sanders said, sharing a moment when her daughter was getting ready for a father-daughter dance years ago. "As I'm talking to her, I'm telling her how proud I am of her, how thankful I am that God chose us to be her parents. How beautiful she is on the inside and out," Sanders said, adding how emotional she was getting in the moment.

jesus fucking christ... not only are christians incredibly cruel, hateful and petty, but from a political standpoint, it's like they don't even want women voting for them.

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