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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Floyd Robertson wrote:
I don't blame you. Living here has been a whole lot different since 2019, but as long as you steer clear of Van Dyke & 23 Rd on Sunday afternoons you should be OK. That intersection becomes Crazy Town every week at that time.
They still are holding weekly rallies?
Sometimes it feels like parts of Macomb are Disneyland if Trump was Mickey.
Yep, every Sunday afternoon lol.
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Motown Spartan wrote:Saw a surprising number of Harris signs in rural Wisconsin this past weekend. But still a lot of Trump signs.
I would say look at the empty houses and the empty houses. I’m guessing up to 70% of those houses are voting for Harris. We all know it’s not something that Harris, Biden, Obama, Clinton, supporters Ever did or ever do.
I’m seeing weightless Trump houses now than I did in 2020 and definitely way less now than I did in 2016
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What that all means, who knows
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NigelUno wrote:PennSpartan wrote:It’s a little over a month until Election Day, so I thought I’d comment on the state of the campaigns. Trump: exactly what we expected. Harris: a carbon copy of Hillary’s miserable operation. Hers is a vanilla, uninspiring, robotic, underperforming mess.
I can’t understand the strategy of being nice and pleasant while Trump beats her over the head with a lead pipe. This should be the easiest win in Democratic history. Start exposing all of his faults on a daily basis.
Here in PA Trump is dominating the advertising. Twice as many TV ads. And billboards and yard signs everywhere. All of his ads talk about her “weakness on crime” and “failed border policy”. He attacks her relentlessly.
Meanwhile, Harris tries to portray herself as caring and a unifier in her ads. Never a mention of Trump. Here’s a thought: start blasting the airwaves with the fact he’s a convicted felon, rapist, failure during the Covid Pandemic (which Joe and Kamala fixed), as well as his January 6 attack on Democracy and refusal to acknowledge the 2020 election results. Could we have some of that PLEASE?
One month to go. Take the damn gloves off and start fighting. If you don’t want to do it yourself Kamala, let Walz do it and turn him into a vicious attack dog. Leave no stone unturned. Expose every Trump lie, fault, and crime. Get busy.
I’ll return after the election to examine the results.
It is highly unlikely that Trump has twice the TV ads as Harris. Perception does not equal reality.
Agreed, doesn't Harris have a lot more money spent on ads?
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PennSpartan wrote:It’s a little over a month until Election Day, so I thought I’d comment on the state of the campaigns. Trump: exactly what we expected. Harris: a carbon copy of Hillary’s miserable operation. Hers is a vanilla, uninspiring, robotic, underperforming mess.
I can’t understand the strategy of being nice and pleasant while Trump beats her over the head with a lead pipe. This should be the easiest win in Democratic history. Start exposing all of his faults on a daily basis.
Here in PA Trump is dominating the advertising. Twice as many TV ads. And billboards and yard signs everywhere. All of his ads talk about her “weakness on crime” and “failed border policy”. He attacks her relentlessly.
Meanwhile, Harris tries to portray herself as caring and a unifier in her ads. Never a mention of Trump. Here’s a thought: start blasting the airwaves with the fact he’s a convicted felon, rapist, failure during the Covid Pandemic (which Joe and Kamala fixed), as well as his January 6 attack on Democracy and refusal to acknowledge the 2020 election results. Could we have some of that PLEASE?
One month to go. Take the damn gloves off and start fighting. If you don’t want to do it yourself Kamala, let Walz do it and turn him into a vicious attack dog. Leave no stone unturned. Expose every Trump lie, fault, and crime. Get busy.
I’ll return after the election to examine the results.
Quit being such a drama queen. I agree that they should be attacking him more but you're being overly dramatic.
She honestly should have hired a bunch of comedians to write her ads and material in general. Treat him like the joke he is. Beat him over the head viciously and make people laugh while doing it.
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there's a house on Oakland heading toward downtown Lansing that is all bedazzled in various forms of the christian hero's likeness.DWags wrote:Motown Spartan wrote:Saw a surprising number of Harris signs in rural Wisconsin this past weekend. But still a lot of Trump signs.
I would say look at the empty houses and the empty houses. I’m guessing up to 70% of those houses are voting for Harris. We all know it’s not something that Harris, Biden, Obama, Clinton, supporters Ever did or ever do.
I’m seeing weightless Trump houses now than I did in 2020 and definitely way less now than I did in 2016
There's a huge picture if his mugshot with "Never Surrender" emblazoned across it. I guess it's lost on the folks that this particular picture was from when he surrendered.
Nobody ever accused republican/libertarians of being real bright.
Anyway.. my wife and I (it's on our way to Stobers from EL) have figured it's just an old empty house and someone decided to turn it into an homage to their hero.
Probably Guest.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Lawn signs for presidential candidates are weird. I mean I get it if you need the permission structure of knowing your neighbors also want to vote for the white supremacist. But that’s it really. I get it more on a local level where name recognition and people looking at a ballot thinking “I’ve heard that name before” can make a difference
But how am I supposed to virtual signal to my neighbors that I'm enlightened, progressive, and informed without a campaign sign in my yard?
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US economy added 254,000 jobs in September, well above expectations
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:as always, good news for America is bad news for republicans/libertarians, Russia and the mainstream media.US economy added 254,000 jobs in September, well above expectations
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Looks like a quarter point drop in the discount window in Novermber
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You've haven't driven through rural mid-michigan lately. (Trump playing Saginaw yesterday shows he knows where his bread is buttered, got the thumb AND rural mid-counties to draw from.)TravelinMan wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Lawn signs for presidential candidates are weird. I mean I get it if you need the permission structure of knowing your neighbors also want to vote for the white supremacist. But that’s it really. I get it more on a local level where name recognition and people looking at a ballot thinking “I’ve heard that name before” can make a difference
But how am I supposed to virtual signal to my neighbors that I'm enlightened, progressive, and informed without a campaign sign in my yard?
Virtue signaling, yes.... enlightened, progressive, and informed not so much.
"FUCK BIDEN" is still a common sight in front of a trailer or broken down farm house, oddly.
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I love the republican/libertarian jesus freak version of virtue signaling.AvgMSUJoe wrote:You've haven't driven through rural mid-michigan lately. (Trump playing Saginaw yesterday shows he knows where his bread is buttered, got the thumb AND rural mid-counties to draw from.)TravelinMan wrote:
But how am I supposed to virtual signal to my neighbors that I'm enlightened, progressive, and informed without a campaign sign in my yard?
Virtue signaling, yes.... enlightened, progressive, and informed not so much.
"FUCK BIDEN" is still a common sight in front of a trailer or broken down farm house, oddly.
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Cameron wrote:Oil prices spiking because of concerns that Israel will be striking Iran's oil infrastructure is not going to help Democrats in November. Bibi wants Trump to win, but it almost seems like Biden does too. Fucking idiot.
WTF Cam, you have no idea what Biden saying to Israel, nor will you ever admit that Biden DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER to stop Israel from taking actions.
You just hate Biden for no reason at all as far as I can tell.
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Yeah man I don’t get this one. Everyone does that shit. People cover their entire front yard in trump and conservative stuff all the time. This isn’t a one side or the other thingTravelinMan wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Lawn signs for presidential candidates are weird. I mean I get it if you need the permission structure of knowing your neighbors also want to vote for the white supremacist. But that’s it really. I get it more on a local level where name recognition and people looking at a ballot thinking “I’ve heard that name before” can make a difference
But how am I supposed to virtual signal to my neighbors that I'm enlightened, progressive, and informed without a campaign sign in my yard?
Big ole swing and a miss
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Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:Oil prices spiking because of concerns that Israel will be striking Iran's oil infrastructure is not going to help Democrats in November. Bibi wants Trump to win, but it almost seems like Biden does too. Fucking idiot.
WTF Cam, you have no idea what Biden saying to Israel, nor will you ever admit that Biden DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER to stop Israel from taking actions.
You just hate Biden for no reason at all as far as I can tell.
Actually, I do have some idea what Biden is saying to Israel.
Biden says US discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iran oil facilities
He has said explicitly that he would oppose strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. He has notably not said the same of their oil facilities. Not having done so has already shifted the market.
But you continue to act as though the (nominally) most powerful man in the world is powerless.
And I hate him because he is aiding, abetting, and enabling a genocide and using my tax dollars to do it. I have been very clear about that for fucking months now, you moron.
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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Yeah man I don’t get this one. Everyone does that shit. People cover their entire front yard in trump and conservative stuff all the time. This isn’t a one side or the other thingTravelinMan wrote:
But how am I supposed to virtual signal to my neighbors that I'm enlightened, progressive, and informed without a campaign sign in my yard?
Big ole swing and a miss
Some of you guys just can't take a joke.
To be honest, I find political signs of any denomination distasteful and vulgar.
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Asked as he left the White House what plans the US had to allow Israel to strike Iran, he responded: "First of all, we don’t allow Israel, we advise Israel and there’s nothing that’s going to happen today."
Your link says otherwise, yet you still blame Biden for what Netanyahu is doing.
As to your hate, before it was Israel it was all about student loans.
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Trapper Gus wrote:Asked as he left the White House what plans the US had to allow Israel to strike Iran, he responded: "First of all, we don’t allow Israel, we advise Israel and there’s nothing that’s going to happen today."
Your link says otherwise, yet you still blame Biden for what Netanyahu is doing.
As to your hate, before it was Israel it was all about student loans.
You cherrypick one irrelevant line, great job. Doesn't explain why he is willing to explicitly say he opposes strikes on the nuclear facilities, but won't do the same for the oil facilities though, does it? Nor does it change the effect that has had on the oil markets, nor the effect THAT will have on the election (you know, my initial point of contention). I know you are hoping to obfuscate furiously enough to deflect any and all criticism of the failure you simp for, but it's not going to work.
I may have had criticism of Biden before he became Genocide Joe (I also said he was too old), but I didn't hate him.
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kinda glad he didn't mention that time I strummed his guitar in Detroit. Would've taken away from his message.Trapper Gus wrote:Guys, it's over. Trump should stop wasting our time campaigning and spending money on teevee. He should take those donations back to Florida and play golf.
The Boss has spoken:
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:kinda glad he didn't mention that time I strummed his guitar in Detroit. Would've taken away from his message.Trapper Gus wrote:Guys, it's over. Trump should stop wasting our time campaigning and spending money on teevee. He should take those donations back to Florida and play golf.
The Boss has spoken:
Not sure if that out does my roommate who was asked to be the saxophone in his band, but it is close
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Cameron wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Your link says otherwise, yet you still blame Biden for what Netanyahu is doing.
As to your hate, before it was Israel it was all about student loans.
You cherrypick one irrelevant line, great job. Doesn't explain why he is willing to explicitly say he opposes strikes on the nuclear facilities, but won't do the same for the oil facilities though, does it? Nor does it change the effect that has had on the oil markets, nor the effect THAT will have on the election (you know, my initial point of contention). I know you are hoping to obfuscate furiously enough to deflect any and all criticism of the failure you simp for, but it's not going to work.
I may have had criticism of Biden before he became Genocide Joe (I also said he was too old), but I didn't hate him.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/04/biden-opposition-israeli-strikes-iran-oil-facilities
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Trapper Gus wrote:Cameron wrote:
You cherrypick one irrelevant line, great job. Doesn't explain why he is willing to explicitly say he opposes strikes on the nuclear facilities, but won't do the same for the oil facilities though, does it? Nor does it change the effect that has had on the oil markets, nor the effect THAT will have on the election (you know, my initial point of contention). I know you are hoping to obfuscate furiously enough to deflect any and all criticism of the failure you simp for, but it's not going to work.
I may have had criticism of Biden before he became Genocide Joe (I also said he was too old), but I didn't hate him.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/04/biden-opposition-israeli-strikes-iran-oil-facilities
What a misleading headline.
"The Israelis have not concluded what they are going to do. That's under discussion. If I were in their shoes, I would be thinking about other alternatives than striking Iranian oil fields," Biden said in a press conference at the White House.
That is just about the weakest "opposition" that one could possibly formulate. He still didn't actually say he opposes it, for some reason. He had no problem being explicit about the nuclear facilities, why not be clear about the oil? And why wait two days, after the markets have already shifted?
Seems pretty clear to me that Israel will be hitting the oil.
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Cameron wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/04/biden-opposition-israeli-strikes-iran-oil-facilities
What a misleading headline."The Israelis have not concluded what they are going to do. That's under discussion. If I were in their shoes, I would be thinking about other alternatives than striking Iranian oil fields," Biden said in a press conference at the White House.
That is just about the weakest "opposition" that one could possibly formulate. He still didn't actually say he opposes it, for some reason. He had no problem being explicit about the nuclear facilities, why not be clear about the oil? And why wait two days, after the markets have already shifted?
Seems pretty clear to me that Israel will be hitting the oil.
and you guys accuse me of being one sided. (which, unlike you guys, I readily say that I am)
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fans of your christian hero have yard signs and I can assure you that nobody will ever confuse y'all with folks that are are enlightened, progressive and informed.TravelinMan wrote:Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Lawn signs for presidential candidates are weird. I mean I get it if you need the permission structure of knowing your neighbors also want to vote for the white supremacist. But that’s it really. I get it more on a local level where name recognition and people looking at a ballot thinking “I’ve heard that name before” can make a difference
But how am I supposed to virtual signal to my neighbors that I'm enlightened, progressive, and informed without a campaign sign in my yard?
also, while I'm not over familiar with the culture war language like "virtue signal", but it sort of seems like a public service to me. Gives folks a good idea of the potentially decent people who live in a certain house vs. people who to stay away from and avoid at all costs.
win/win.
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I'm beginning to think Cameron is the opposite of nuanced, very simple, and unAmerican.
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kingstonlake wrote:It’s incredible how the Trump campaign is leaning into the immigration topic. Not even attempting to articulate a plan for the future. Just campaigning on hate for another group.
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Strait up racism and hate.WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:kingstonlake wrote:It’s incredible how the Trump campaign is leaning into the immigration topic. Not even attempting to articulate a plan for the future. Just campaigning on hate for another group.
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Kick some Americans out, purge the libs? Seriously?
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It's all they have.kingstonlake wrote:It’s incredible how the Trump campaign is leaning into the trans gender topic. Not even attempting to articulate a plan for the future. Just campaigning on hate for another group.
And it'll probably work.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:It's all they have.kingstonlake wrote:It’s incredible how the Trump campaign is leaning into the trans gender topic. Not even attempting to articulate a plan for the future. Just campaigning on hate for another group.
And it'll probably work.
Maybe the main driver is hatred for the viewpoints of the Democratic Party.
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the republican/libertarian's christian hero is now delving into eugenics. He's now referring to migrants as being predisposed to committing murder by "their genes."
disgusting behavior and words from the republican/libertarian nominee, but certainly not shocking given his history and their unwavering support of him.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:so ya know how I've been saying that "it's only gonna get worse"?
the republican/libertarian's christian hero is now delving into eugenics. He's now referring to migrants as being predisposed to committing murder by "their genes."
disgusting behavior and words from the republican/libertarian nominee, but certainly not shocking given his history and their unwavering support of him.
I thinking that Fred Trump sent him to a Hitler Youth Camp, but really it is an attempt to pull all the attention away from Harris.
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