Harris Vs. Trump 2024. The battle to save America. Lets do this.

Cameron wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

In my world anyone who supports Trump is a schmuck, and their death doesn't change that, but then I don't believe that God exists, so maybe your religious paradigm is doing your thinking.

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

I don't disagree with your sentiment, but it could also be applied to living people (and not insulting them because of their politics).

Cameron wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

In my world anyone who supports Trump is a schmuck, and their death doesn't change that, but then I don't believe that God exists, so maybe your religious paradigm is doing your thinking.

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

can you imagine how sad of an existence one must live for the last few minutes of your life to be spent at a republican/libertarian, hate-filled KKK rally?

makes me sad for that family... that that's how they chose to live.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

can you imagine how sad of an existence one must live for the last few minutes of your life to be spent at a republican/libertarian, hate-filled KKK rally?

makes me sad for that family... that that's how they chose to live.

I certainly feel sad for that family. Not for such condescending reasons, but actual sympathy for their tremendous loss.

Maybe it's because I have friends and family who are Trump supporters, but I still see them as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Cameron wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
can you imagine how sad of an existence one must live for the last few minutes of your life to be spent at a republican/libertarian, hate-filled KKK rally?

makes me sad for that family... that that's how they chose to live.

I certainly feel sad for that family. Not for such condescending reasons, but actual sympathy for their tremendous loss.

Maybe it's because I have friends and family who are Trump supporters, but I still see them as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

that's cool, dude.

see how easy it is to just let other people express their views? 

Cameron wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

In my world anyone who supports Trump is a schmuck, and their death doesn't change that, but then I don't believe that God exists, so maybe your religious paradigm is doing your thinking.

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that. I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that. I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

Politicizing murdered firefighters is pretty barberic.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that. I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

You are a piece of shit.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I don't believe in God either. But I do believe that a volunteer fire fighter who died shielding his family from gunfire deserves enough respect not to be insulted posthumously simply because one disagrees with his politics. That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that.  I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

This is one of those times trapper that I always tell you about where you’ve worked yourself into an unwinnable corner. The only thing to do is stop posting for a day or two and let everyone else move on. If you keep trying to defend the reprehensible position you’ve put yourself in, all you can do is dig yourself further in and look even more fuckin nuts.

Take the L, let everyone post amongst themselves, and fight another day about something that doesn’t make you sound like a psychopath.

Cameron wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that. I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

You are a piece of shit.

shout out for not being condescending.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that. I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

Politicizing murdered firefighters is pretty barberic.

speaking as someone who is pro-life across the board (consistently.. which drives republican/libertarians insane) every person has value. Not just firefighters.

Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

America is a stupid country.

We even see it every day here at the Swill.

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

If you ever get to talk to a presidential candidate directly, and there are things you want them to do, it is my suggestion that you do not say “yes maam whatever you say is perfect ma’am, I am voting for you no matter what ma’am”

Cameron wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
can you imagine how sad of an existence one must live for the last few minutes of your life to be spent at a republican/libertarian, hate-filled KKK rally?

makes me sad for that family... that that's how they chose to live.

I certainly feel sad for that family. Not for such condescending reasons, but actual sympathy for their tremendous loss.

Maybe it's because I have friends and family who are Trump supporters, but I still see them as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Calling someone a schmuck is. to me, a fairly friendly insult.  We do that when someone we love is taken in by a con man.  Sometimes people apply that label to themselves.

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

This has been a strategy the right has found works among minorities.  Point out that other countries people are more important than they are. Look how much money is going to Ukraine and Israel while your people suffer here.  Don't offer any solutions but talk, right or wrong, about how much better they were under trump.  This selective amnesia is affecting a lot of people.  I don't know how to combat this and my fear is by the time some of these voters realize the mistake they've made we aren't going to be free anymore or best case lose more rights than they've already lost.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Maybe you shouldn't have brought him into this conversation, he still was a schmuck for supporting Trump & his death or alleged actions at the end of his life don't change that.  I am respecting him by respecting his choice to be a schmuck.

This is one of those times trapper that I always tell you about where you’ve worked yourself into an unwinnable corner. The only thing to do is stop posting for a day or two and let everyone else move on. If you keep trying to defend the reprehensible position you’ve put yourself in, all you can do is dig yourself further in and look even more fuckin nuts.

Take the L, let everyone post amongst themselves, and fight another day about something that doesn’t make you sound like a psychopath.

Gotta say back at you I don't think of discussions on this boards as wins and losses.  

That seems to be you guys.

I believe that people who support or did support Trump Schmuck's, which is clang for slang "a foolish or contemptible person".

Cameron wrote:

I certainly feel sad for that family. Not for such condescending reasons, but actual sympathy for their tremendous loss.

ya know - this is a great point. I think I'll start being less condescending and consider being more like Cameron.

Sympathetic.. more self-aware, well adjusted.. grounded. Maybe become a bit more peaceful, serene. Balanced and steady. More calm, even-keeled, tranquil.

Thanks, Cameron - for your inspiration.

Cameron wrote: Like Bob, you are beneath contempt. Just a massive waste of humanity.

Cameron wrote: You are a piece of shit.

Cameron wrote:  That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Cameron wrote: I still see them as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

your tireless commitment to empathy has inspired me to see my fellow Spartans as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

If you ever get to talk to a presidential candidate directly, and there are things you want them to do, it is my suggestion that you do not say “yes maam whatever you say is perfect ma’am, I am voting for you no matter what ma’am”

Cool. I’ll try to remember not use that time to highlight I’m a single issue voter as well.

Single issue voters are idiots.

kingstonlake wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
If you ever get to talk to a presidential candidate directly, and there are things you want them to do, it is my suggestion that you do not say “yes maam whatever you say is perfect ma’am, I am voting for you no matter what ma’am”

Cool

Single issue voters are idiots.

IMO people often make up excuses to cover for their real reasons, which they feel are not defendable.

Im a single issue voters, and that issue is Trumpism.

Someone's support or opposition to Trump/Trumpism is my litmus test and will be long after Trump himself is dead.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I certainly feel sad for that family. Not for such condescending reasons, but actual sympathy for their tremendous loss.

ya know - this is a great point. I think I'll start being less condescending and consider being more like Cameron.

Sympathetic.. more self-aware, well adjusted.. grounded. Maybe become a bit more peaceful, serene. Balanced and steady. More calm, even-keeled, tranquil.

Thanks, Cameron - for your inspiration.

Cameron wrote: Like Bob, you are beneath contempt. Just a massive waste of humanity.

Cameron wrote: You are a piece of shit.

Cameron wrote:  That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Cameron wrote: I still see them as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

your tireless commitment to empathy has inspired me to see my fellow Spartans as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Sometimes people make bad choices when they're mad or scared or stressed

MiamiSpartan wrote:Im a single issue voters, and that issue is Trumpism.

Someone's support or opposition to Trump/Trumpism is my litmus test and will be long after Trump himself is dead.

There are exceptions to every rule!

MiamiSpartan wrote:Im a single issue voters, and that issue is Trumpism.

Someone's support or opposition to Trump/Trumpism is my litmus test and will be long after Trump himself is dead.

this.

Normally I'm into life, healthcare and anti-guns.

This year I'm a proud single issue voter. I'm anti-fascism.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I certainly feel sad for that family. Not for such condescending reasons, but actual sympathy for their tremendous loss.

ya know - this is a great point. I think I'll start being less condescending and consider being more like Cameron.

Sympathetic.. more self-aware, well adjusted.. grounded. Maybe become a bit more peaceful, serene. Balanced and steady. More calm, even-keeled, tranquil.

Thanks, Cameron - for your inspiration.

Cameron wrote: Like Bob, you are beneath contempt. Just a massive waste of humanity.

Cameron wrote: You are a piece of shit.

Cameron wrote:  That is shameful and disgusting behavior.

Cameron wrote: I still see them as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

your tireless commitment to empathy has inspired me to see my fellow Spartans as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Eat shit, Bob.

Cameron wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

ya know - this is a great point. I think I'll start being less condescending and consider being more like Cameron.

Sympathetic.. more self-aware, well adjusted.. grounded. Maybe become a bit more peaceful, serene. Balanced and steady. More calm, even-keeled, tranquil.

Thanks, Cameron - for your inspiration.









your tireless commitment to empathy has inspired me to see my fellow Spartans as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Eat shit, Bob.

Go buy yourself a protective magical amulet that will protect you from all those corrupting 5g signals out there.

Here's your first lead on a good one. From the born again christian influencer himself. https://www.indy100.com/celebrities/russell-brand-selling-magic-amulet

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

Can anyone explain to this white old man what the fuck a “ Charlemagne the God” is and why I should care? TIA.

TravelinMan wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

Can anyone explain to this white old man what the fuck a “ Charlemagne the God” is and why I should care? TIA.

Nope.

Cameron wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

ya know - this is a great point. I think I'll start being less condescending and consider being more like Cameron.

Sympathetic.. more self-aware, well adjusted.. grounded. Maybe become a bit more peaceful, serene. Balanced and steady. More calm, even-keeled, tranquil.

Thanks, Cameron - for your inspiration.









your tireless commitment to empathy has inspired me to see my fellow Spartans as human beings, regardless of our (often vehement) disagreements.

Eat shit, Bob.

Sadly Bob lives in this world and is forced to do that every day without your encouragement.

Thankfully he is cool enough to ignore punitive spheroids like you.

TravelinMan wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

Can anyone explain to this white old man what the fuck a “ Charlemagne the God” is and why I should care? TIA.

Audience share. Voters Harris wants to reach. Next question.

kingstonlake wrote:

MiamiSpartan wrote:Im a single issue voters, and that issue is Trumpism.

Someone's support or opposition to Trump/Trumpism is my litmus test and will be long after Trump himself is dead.

There are exceptions to every rule!

Only if you are willing to give up the ideals of the United States as laid out in our history.

Trump is Hitler. Anyone who votes for him is voting for gas chambers for minorities.

TravelinMan wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

Can anyone explain to this white old man what the fuck a “ Charlemagne the God” is and why I should care? TIA.

Guys, TM has a good point. We should only discuss what candidates do to reach old white guys.

TravelinMan wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Was listening to Harris being interviewed by Charlemagne the God. They’re taking calls.

People amaze me. That’s all I’m gonna say. How in the hell are you gonna say your vote depends on not sending aid to other countries until you satisfy the needs of all black people first. Yeah, you do that. Hold back your vote and let me know how it works out for you. Let me know how much you’ve gained in Trump winning over Harris.

Look. I get it. You think more needs to be done for minorities. Ok, let’s work on making that happen. Or let the guy who thinks your vermin and Detroit is a shit hole become president.

Can anyone explain to this white old man what the fuck a “ Charlemagne the God” is and why I should care?  TIA.

It's just some person's stage name.  I don't know who really, but i can tell you i've heard the name before so he/she is at least somewhat famous, at least in michigan. There's probably a wikipedia page if you care enough

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups”.

This exactly what we are seeing at Trump rallies.

As reported, Trump quit taking questions at a PA town hall was delayed by two medical emergencies in the crowd. Trump quit taking questions and asked the crowd it they wanted music instead. They played music that he chose, dancing, faux directing for 30 minutes and the crowd loved it.

https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/14/trumps-pennsylvania-town-hall-turns-into-impromptu-concert-after-medical-incidents/

Trapper Gus wrote:

Cameron wrote:

Eat shit, Bob.

Sadly Bob lives in this world and is forced to do that every day without your encouragement.

Thankfully he is cool enough to ignore punitive spheroids like you.

it's interesting when you use their own words and they double down and show us all who they are.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
This is one of those times trapper that I always tell you about where you’ve worked yourself into an unwinnable corner. The only thing to do is stop posting for a day or two and let everyone else move on. If you keep trying to defend the reprehensible position you’ve put yourself in, all you can do is dig yourself further in and look even more fuckin nuts.

Take the L, let everyone post amongst themselves, and fight another day about something that doesn’t make you sound like a psychopath.

Gotta say back at you I don't think of discussions on this boards as wins and losses.  

That seems to be you guys.

I believe that people who support or did support Trump Schmock's, which is clang for slang "a foolish or contemptible person".

You’re calling a dead guy a schmuck, which makes you sound insane. 

You don’t actually know that he was a trump supporter by the way. You know that he attended a trump rally.

sεяεηιτλ wrote:

TravelinMan wrote:

Can anyone explain to this white old man what the fuck a “ Charlemagne the God” is and why I should care?  TIA.

It's just some person's stage name.  I don't know who really, but i can tell you i've heard the name before so he/she is at least somewhat famous, at least in michigan. There's probably a wikipedia page if you care enough

Wikipedia! I should have thought of that. Thank you.

Apparently he is - and this is from the Wikipedia - “the hip hop Howard Stern.”

Go figure.

kingstonlake wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
If you ever get to talk to a presidential candidate directly, and there are things you want them to do, it is my suggestion that you do not say “yes maam whatever you say is perfect ma’am, I am voting for you no matter what ma’am”

Cool. I’ll try to remember not use that time to highlight I’m a single issue voter as well.

Single issue voters are idiots.

I know that nuance is like, really really hard. But again, just because they say that they aren’t going to vote for you doesn’t in fact mean that they aren’t going to vote for you.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Gotta say back at you I don't think of discussions on this boards as wins and losses.  

That seems to be you guys.

I believe that people who support or did support Trump Schmock's, which is clang for slang "a foolish or contemptible person".

You’re calling a dead guy a schmuck, which makes you sound insane. 

You don’t actually know that he was a trump supporter by the way. You know that he attended a trump rally.

Fair enough, though my assumption is that someone in the camera on the platform was invited, which means he was most likely a Trump supporter.

Also, I am calling all Trump supporters schmucks, so if he wasn't a Trump supporter I guess he isn't a schmuck.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

Sadly Bob lives in this world and is forced to do that every day without your encouragement.

Thankfully he is cool enough to ignore punitive spheroids like you.

it's interesting when you use their own words and they double down and show us all who they are.

Are you fucking new here? I've been like this the whole time.

Have to give Cam props for his dedication to downvoting me.

I say I'm wrong in a post, something he has been demanding, and he downvotes it.