Re: tOfficial Election Day 2024 Thread...

by **Heat Miser** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:44

Gonna lose the House & the Senate too. Kangaroo Supreme Court is already gone. No guardrails.

by **Heat Miser** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:46

InTenSity wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Again it can't be star d enough how fucking dumb rolling Biden and Harris out there was. I don't care how much people think they deserved it for winning in 2020. It wasn't a great 2024 strategy

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.
How? Trump is the worst thing about all of humanity?

Yes, and she's going to lose to him. That should tell you she ran a dogshit campaign.

by aualum06 Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:46

Once he takes Georgia it's about all over

by **kingstonlake** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:47

Heat Miser wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Again it can't be star d enough how fucking dumb rolling Biden and Harris out there was. I don't care how much people think they deserved it for winning in 2020. It wasn't a great 2024 strategy

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

You mean things like closing out your campaign along side a woman who is dyed in the wool opposed to everything you stand for as a democrat was a bad strategy? Huh. Go figure.

Can imagine why it didn’t inspire folks.

by sεяεηιτλ Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:48

InTenSity wrote:How the fuck do you counter outright lies that half the population take a absolute truth? Trump stopped the immigration bill and now is winning in it. I had faith in the US, but everything sucks. Get ready for a lot of unrest.

I've told you all how you do it. You appeal to the masses, you don't just say the right things policy wise, you make them fucking like you. My worry with Harris is that she is so rigid and not very likable. Trumps formula is literally to repeat shit over and over and over and make people laugh and smile. That's it.

Democrats have utterly failed to realize that americans are fucking stupid and just want to mostly be entertained. Let's say you go up there and 90% entertain with some comedy and 10% tell a crowd from detroit that you're going to try for reparations, you're going to be fucking loved.

Then you go to philadelphia and do the same thing.

Then you go to north carolina and 90% entertain and tell them that Trump shit on you and you're going to bring more of the auto industry to NC, as well as aerospace.

Then you go to dearborn and 90% entertain and tell them that you're going to make sure the auto industry is expanded there as well (who cares what you said in NC), oh and you're also going to save the palestinians.

Then you you go to somewhere with jewish folks in PA and tell them you have nazi fascism, crack some jokes about the opposition for 90% of the time, and repeat repeat repat some more about nazi fascism having no place in america.

This country is fucking stupid. and all this will work now because we are soo fucking stupid. Fuck the old rules, fuck the media, fuck it all, just win and quit being a pansy piece of shit. And get rid of all the fucking old people that can't adapt and don't know shit for shit.

by TravelinMan Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:50

Heat Miser wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Again it can't be star d enough how fucking dumb rolling Biden and Harris out there was. I don't care how much people think they deserved it for winning in 2020. It wasn't a great 2024 strategy

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

Should have picked Shapiro instead of Walz. She was too afraid of the Squad/Palestein thing.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:52

Heat Miser wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
How? Trump is the worst thing about all of humanity?

Yes, and she's going to lose to him. That should tell you she ran a dogshit campaign.

That’s not entirely on her. It’s mostly on Biden. It’s partially on Democratic leaders who are TRULY terrible at this and need to be removed. (They’ve needed to be removed from leadership since 2016. But alas, here we are)

by **Cameron** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:52

kingstonlake wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

You mean things like closing out your campaign along side a woman who is dyed in the wool opposed to everything you stand for as a democrat was a bad strategy? Huh. Go figure.

Can imagine why it didn’t inspire folks.

There is a reason she did so poorly in the 2020 primary. But I blame Biden more than I blame Kamala. She was put into a tough spot. No lead time, anchored to a thin skinned octogenarian who she couldn't or wouldn't distance herself from. The campaign was bad, but much of the campaign personnel was necessarily borrowed from Biden's campaign because she had no time to assemble her own.

They will now move right when they should move left, because they always learn the wrong lesson.

by **Heat Miser** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:53

kingstonlake wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Again it can't be star d enough how fucking dumb rolling Biden and Harris out there was. I don't care how much people think they deserved it for winning in 2020. It wasn't a great 2024 strategy

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

You mean things like closing out your campaign along side a woman who is dyed in the wool opposed to everything you stand for as a democrat was a bad strategy? Huh. Go figure.

Can imagine why it didn’t inspire folks.

1. Kissing ass to Liz Cheney and Republicans
2. "Opportunity economy"
3. Tax cuts for small business startups
4. "I wouldn't change anything we did over the last 4 years."
5. Outside of abortion, basically running as Republican lite on the border, Israel, etc.
6. Muzzling Walz after the DNC

And on and on. Terrible campaign.

by **Cameron** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:54

TravelinMan wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

Should have picked Shapiro instead of Walz. She was too afraid of the Squad/Palestein thing.

Walz was not the problem, and Shapiro wouldn't have helped.

by TravelinMan Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:55

Cameron wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Should have picked Shapiro instead of Walz. She was too afraid of the Squad/Palestein thing.

Walz was not the problem, and Shapiro wouldn't have helped.

Disagree. Shapiro is a sharp cookie and winning PA is critical.

by sεяεηιτλ Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:56

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

You mean things like closing out your campaign along side a woman who is dyed in the wool opposed to everything you stand for as a democrat was a bad strategy? Huh. Go figure.

Can imagine why it didn’t inspire folks.

1. Kissing ass to Liz Cheney and Republicans
2. "Opportunity economy"
3. Tax cuts for small business startups
4. "I wouldn't change anything we did over the last 4 years."
5. Outside of abortion, basically running as Republican lite on the border, Israel, etc.
6. Muzzling Walz after the DNC

And on and on. Terrible campaign.

The liz Chaney thing was an abomination. I'll grant you that as the clear major misstep. Trying to court the few people that will be convinced with that instead of focusing on driving out your middle and edges. God fucking damn it, fuck it all.

by **Cameron** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:57

Nobody cares about the VP.

TravelinMan wrote:
Cameron wrote:

Walz was not the problem, and Shapiro wouldn't have helped.

Disagree. Shapiro is a sharp cookie and winning PA is critical.

Nobody cares about the VP. Vance is a turd, it doesn't matter at all.

by **MiamiSpartan** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 22:57

TravelinMan wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

Should have picked Shapiro instead of Walz. She was too afraid of the Squad/Palestein thing.

Zero chance she wins with Shapiro either. No one votes for the VP. Even if he somehow helped her eek out PA, that doesn't look like it would be enough.

by **Heat Miser** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:03

MiamiSpartan wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

Should have picked Shapiro instead of Walz. She was too afraid of the Squad/Palestein thing.
Zero chance she wins with Shapiro either. No one votes for the VP. Even if he somehow helped her eek out PA, that doesn't look like it would be enough.

They had incredible momentum up to the DNC. Then they dropped the "weird" tag that worked so well for some reason & started trotting out Republicans. They raised a billion dollars and pissed it away on shitty messaging with no traction. Never distanced herself from Biden. Just John L. Smith level buffoonery across the board. Typical Dem own goal shit. She might even lose the popular vote. tOfficial Election Day 2024 Thread... - Page 7 502811600

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by **kingstonlake** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:04

Looking like her only real path is MI, WI, PA

Never really bought into NC or GA

by **Cameron** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:05

Not clinically deceased, but circling the drain.

by aualum06 Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:05

This might not even end up close

by **Heat Miser** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:06

kingstonlake wrote:Looking like her only real path is MI, WI, PA

That's the only path & it ain't happening.

by **InTenSity** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:06

aualum06 wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

Kamala ran a dogshit campaign. She deserves to lose.

Kamala is about as unlikeable as Donald Trump

How? Am I blind?

by TravelinMan Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:07

Anybody do a wellness check on Trap?

by aualum06 Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:13

InTenSity wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Kamala is about as unlikeable as Donald Trump
How? Am I blind?

I mean she's not Donald Trump that's about her best thing to offer

by **kingstonlake** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:14

WI is gonna be a problem.

by **kingstonlake** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:15

TravelinMan wrote:Anybody do a wellness check on Trap?

He’s busy putting together a dossier on how inflation or its cumulative effects aren’t real for most Americans.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:29

Maybe telling entire swaths of voters “eat shit and deal with it, we’re your only choice. Are you really going to go against us?” Is a really stupid fucking strategy and doing something about it ahead of time when it’s an obvious problem is a good idea. Who woulda thunk

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by sεяεηιτλ Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:32

kingstonlake wrote:WI is gonna be a problem.

PA.

PA specifically, Its too far gone unless these governors or the media are trolling us on their reporting and a crap ton of mail in ballots haven't been counted yet. For example the AZ numbers were not aligning last I looked when they started reporting. They quickly reported about 1.6 million votes from zero, but media has been reporting they had more than 1.8 million votes early + mail in. That's 200k votes that didn't seem to report. Could be some explanation for it like 200k absentees that get counted after according to processes in place.

Wishful thinking though. This party fucking sucks. Unfortunately with the way they cozied up to the Cheney's, uni party may not be far from the truth. Its like they were trying to lose. The media double standard doesn't help either. If this goes to trump, I am probably checking out from all news sources. I might browse headlines for brief summaries of current events but those fucks aren't getting my clicks. I'll probably just browse news reddits that the first couple comments usually summarizes the articles. Fuck the fucking fuckers. Journalism is fucking dead. Just tell me what's happening and that's it.

by sεяεηιτλ Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:35

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Maybe telling entire swaths of voters “eat shit and deal with it, we’re your only choice. Are you really going to go against us?” Is a really stupid fucking strategy and doing something about it ahead of time when it’s an obvious problem is a good idea. Who woulda thunk

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The problem is fucking netanyahu and Israel. They are no longer our friend. He meddled. He strung Biden along for a god damn year and twisted the knife. And Biden still gave him weapons. Jesus.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:35

by **kingstonlake** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:37

She’s going to lose WI

Her campaign is officially on life support.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:37

Maybe that post is too nebulous

That’s what we’ve been fucking telling you for more than a year now

by sεяεηιτλ Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:39

kingstonlake wrote:WI is gonna be a problem.

PA.

PA specifically, Its too far gone unless these governors or the media are trolling us on their reporting and a crap ton of mail in ballots haven't been counted yet. For example the AZ numbers were not aligning last I looked when they started reporting. They quickly reported about 1.6 million votes from zero, but media has been reporting they had more than 1.8 million votes early + mail in. That's 200k votes that didn't seem to report. Could be some explanation for it like 200k absentees that get counted after according to processes in place.

Wishful thinking though. This party fucking sucks. Unfortunately with the way they cozied up to the Cheney's, uni party may not be far from the truth. Its like they were trying to lose. The media double standard doesn't help either. If this goes to trump, I am probably checking out from all news sources. I might browse headlines for brief summaries of current events but those fucks aren't getting my clicks. I'll probably just browse news reddits that the first couple comments usually summarizes the articles. Fuck the fucking fuckers. Journalism is fucking dead. Just tell me what's happening and that's it.

by sεяεηιτλ Tue 5 Nov 2024 - 23:45

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Maybe that post is too nebulous

That’s what we’ve been fucking telling you for more than a year now

Its not the only problem and far from the most impactful. I credit the complete and utter lack of adapting to the times. Most of us here assume that the party is actually making good science based decisions, and adaptively managing the campaign according to the circumstances it is presented with. But that's not true at all. These people are stuck in a world where they aren't campaigning against trump, a world where Americans make smart decisions and cut through the BS, a world where the media is actually a friendly force for the campaign. Turns out businesses like the media know more and knows how to mislead you a lot better than they think. Turns out Americans are stupid and are easily manipulated. Turns out the old guard in the party is fucking worthless in this world and maintaining continuity in messaging is no longer a requirement because people's attention spans are about 5 seconds and any messages that don't jive will be quickly forgotten. Turns out people want their politicians to lie to them and only lie to them.

If this party can't win, all the good intentions in the world don't fucking matter one bit. Look what we accomplished in the last four years. Trump was historically bad, Biden fixed a lot of shit but didn't at all effectively take advantage of it. Enter Kamala runs a shit campaign and now trump inherits a fixed economy after he fucked it up. He gets to essentially take everything good we did and call it his own. That's monstrously bad long term planning if you can't win. Pelosi and all these old fucks have to go. And we need people to drive turn out. So many want to support Dems but they are giving very little reason to have them actually support because the other side is far better at stealing thunder and manipulating people.

by **kingstonlake** Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:02

Almost feels like Trump being in the news via trials for four years served to normalize him. Now he was always gonna put himself in the news and the media was always gonna cover him. I get it.

We never had the chance to say “nah, not this guy again”

by TravelinMan Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:08

The problem now is that even if Harris somehow pulls off the Hail Mary and makes a comeback, the Trumpers will riot and call it rigged.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:09

TravelinMan wrote:The problem now is that even if Harris somehow pulls off the Hail Mary and makes a comeback, the Trumpers will riot and call it rigged.

I mean….. at this point I’d rather face that problem than the alternative

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:17

I’ve been too nice for months trying to protect the fe fe’s of certain posters. This puts it more succinctly than I did, and is correct.

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by Pervis Muldoon Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:17

TravelinMan wrote:The problem now is that even if Harris somehow pulls off the Hail Mary and makes a comeback, the Trumpers will riot and call it rigged.

If she sealed the deal by winning Florida, Ohio and North Carolina and piled up over 400 electoral votes, the Trumpers would riot and call it rigged.

by Pervis Muldoon Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:27

We will get more data for the campaign autopsy in the next few days, but I saw a graphic about an exit poll today that gave Trump the edge on “handling a crisis,” as if the year 2020 never happened. I now fully believe Bobby Sak’s great political truth: we are a stupid country.

by **kingstonlake** Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 0:30

CNN just put up a heat map of the country asking people if their wages were keeping up with or falling behind the cost of living. Holy crap.

This election was never about preserving democracy, abortion rights, immigration, or the Middle East.

by TravelinMan Wed 6 Nov 2024 - 1:04

kingstonlake wrote:CNN just put up a heat map of the country asking people if their wages were keeping up with or falling behind the cost of living. Holy crap.

This election was never about preserving democracy, abortion rights, immigration, or the Middle East.

One of my favorite political commentators once said, “It’s the economy, stupid.”

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