Re: workout routines?

by **Nordic** Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:53 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:I have a tablet with all the streaming services... watching "Justified" during my daily 30 min run(-ish... depending on the knees that day).

Getting old sucks.

So, speaking of, I had meniscus surgery, still had pain probably arthritis... the doc gave me a cortisone shot, the pain went away, but it's coming back. The guy said the shots usually last 3 weeks to 3 months... I'm on like month 4 probably, trying to fight through without getting another... Do I have to just accept the fact of quarterly shots until a knee replacement?
I was hoping hard work would win the day. Not looking good.

I don't know the specifics, but from what I recall Cortisone shots are just a mask, they don't actually heal the area. I've also heard that the effectiveness wears off the more you do. So use it wisely.

I need it for my shoulder (I still lift heavy like a dumbass), but I've been reluctant to start. I just adjust my workouts, manage the pain, ice, etc. I am getting to the point where it is becoming harder to manage though.

by **Nordic** Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:56 am

Rick Saunders wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:

yeah, those trail runners are an odd bunch.

I'm jealous, though, that you can hit the AT. It runs right through good 'ol Haywood County, over by Fines Creek.

I see where that is. Been up around the Balsam Mountain / Ravenfork area back in the day.

This stuff today is prolly in one of the less remote parts of the AT in bootbuster territory. Almost up north but not up north by eastern standards.

A long AT backpack trip is on my bucket list. Would love to hear some suggested routes for a week-ish trip.

by **Nordic** Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:05 pm

CaptainSlow33 wrote:I've been trying to get back into a consistent routine. Tuesdays and Thursdays are my gym days. I'll typically warm up on the treadmill for 30 minutes (I try to do a combination of running and incline walking). After that, I head over to the weight area and...try my best? Back when I was fit in college (20 years ago...oof...), I'd go to the gym with my stepbrother, and he knew what we needed to be doing. Now I feel like I'm just kind of flailing. I figure that if I'm doing it right, I'll eventually get swoll. If I'm doing it wrong, I'll at least feel a post work out pain that makes me feel like I did something. After that, I'll go hard on the stair climber until I feel like I'm going to fall off of it, and then I'll cool down on either the exercise bike or an elliptical.

Monday, Wednesday, Friday are for walks around the neighborhood to keep my steps up. Weekends are for hikes, weather permitting. So far seems to be working ok.

One quick tip. Burn your carbs after you lift, not before. 10 min warmup on the tready and then lift. If you need more treadmill time, add another 20-30 mins after your lift. You want to be muscles to be fresh to get the most out of a lift.

As far as what to do, what is your goal? Bigger, faster/fitter, stronger? Pick one-ish. Without getting too advanced you can't accomplish all three. Focus on one (maybe two) and alternate every 6-8 weeks if needed. Set a goal for each period. Is it a strength gain goal? A muscle gain goal? An overall fitness gain? Based on your "flailing" comment, it sounds like this is your starting point. It is easy to get lost in the maze of equipment and moving stuff around without purpose or gain.

Goals can be simple. They don't need to be "I wanna bench 450". It can be as simple as "I wanna gain a little muscle", "get a little stronger", etc.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:40 am

Nordic wrote:
Rick Saunders wrote:

I see where that is. Been up around the Balsam Mountain / Ravenfork area back in the day.

This stuff today is prolly in one of the less remote parts of the AT in bootbuster territory. Almost up north but not up north by eastern standards.

A long AT backpack trip is on my bucket list. Would love to hear some suggested routes for a week-ish trip.

I wish I could help, but it has literally been decades since I've been on the AT. Rick would be a good resource, it seems like.

my only advice, for the purpose of nostalgia and my love of the area would be north Georgia into North Carolina. Maybe along the trail around the Nantahala National Forest by Franklin and up to Fontana Lake.

Some good resources here

and here

by Rick Saunders Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:39 pm

Nordic wrote:
Rick Saunders wrote:

I see where that is. Been up around the Balsam Mountain / Ravenfork area back in the day.

This stuff today is prolly in one of the less remote parts of the AT in bootbuster territory. Almost up north but not up north by eastern standards.

A long AT backpack trip is on my bucket list. Would love to hear some suggested routes for a week-ish trip.

Bob wrote: wish I could help, but it has literally been decades since I've been on the AT. Rick would be a good resource, it seems like.

my only advice, for the purpose of nostalgia and my love of the area would be north Georgia into North Carolina. Maybe along the trail around the Nantahala National Forest by Franklin and up to Fontana Lake.

Some good resources here

and here

Just FYI I am the wrong guy to ask that question. The most full-time length I have ever done is in GSMNP and it is awesome but also very popular. Too many rocks and roads in MD/PA so I wouldn't suggest that.

If I'm guessing, the stretch just prior to GSMNP (Nantahala as Bob mentioned) and the stretch after GSMNP all the way to Mt Rogers and beyond is probably similar to the best. I'd start looking there if I was looking. Great resources linked, Bob.

The AT has the cachet (and for a reason) but there are plenty of great week-long routes designable in and around GSMNP that would get less traffic and also make water access a lot easier than it is on the AT.

by **InTenSity** Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:12 pm

Nordic wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:I have a tablet with all the streaming services... watching "Justified" during my daily 30 min run(-ish... depending on the knees that day).

Getting old sucks.

So, speaking of, I had meniscus surgery, still had pain probably arthritis... the doc gave me a cortisone shot, the pain went away, but it's coming back. The guy said the shots usually last 3 weeks to 3 months... I'm on like month 4 probably, trying to fight through without getting another... Do I have to just accept the fact of quarterly shots until a knee replacement?
I was hoping hard work would win the day. Not looking good.

I don't know the specifics, but from what I recall Cortisone shots are just a mask, they don't actually heal the area. I've also heard that the effectiveness wears off the more you do. So use it wisely.

I need it for my shoulder (I still lift heavy like a dumbass), but I've been reluctant to start. I just adjust my workouts, manage the pain, ice, etc. I am getting to the point where it is becoming harder to manage though.

My knees are bad. They were so bad at one point I couldn't sleep at night for more than an hour at a time. Finally found a Dr who did cortisone shots. Yes, they mask it, but its taken the pain away, yes they have diminishing returns as well. This first one is more or less a trial to see how long it lasts, its been around 3-4 months and the pain hasn't come back as bad as it was. That being said, I really dropped off the exercise and gained back about 15-20lbs in the last year. I am a bit concerned that my knee is going to get back to being as bad as it was. Flip side, I'm sure my blood work isn't going to look that great either. Getting old sucks. hah!

by AvgMSUJoe Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:17 pm

InTenSity wrote:
Nordic wrote:

I don't know the specifics, but from what I recall Cortisone shots are just a mask, they don't actually heal the area. I've also heard that the effectiveness wears off the more you do. So use it wisely.

I need it for my shoulder (I still lift heavy like a dumbass), but I've been reluctant to start. I just adjust my workouts, manage the pain, ice, etc. I am getting to the point where it is becoming harder to manage though.
My knees are bad. They were so bad at one point I couldn't sleep at night for more than an hour at a time. Finally found a Dr who did cortisone shots. Yes, they mask it, but its taken the pain away, yes they have diminishing returns as well. This first one is more or less a trial to see how long it lasts, its been around 3-4 months and the pain hasn't come back as bad as it was. That being said, I really dropped off the exercise and gained back about 15-20lbs in the last year. I am a bit concerned that my knee is going to get back to being as bad as it was. Flip side, I'm sure my blood work isn't going to look that great either. Getting old sucks. hah!

Which leads to something else ive been thinking about... Anyone try yhe fatty drugs? If i can't fight through it with working out and the stupid diets are just a yoyo mess, maybe the brand new cheater drugs would help.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:18 pm

hit the gravel roads north of East Lansing for about 90 minutes this morning. Windy, but sunny and warm. First ride outside in 2024.

y'all do anything special outside with the warm weather?

by **tGreenWay** Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:26 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:hit the gravel roads north of East Lansing for about 90 minutes this morning. Windy, but sunny and warm. First ride outside in 2024.

y'all do anything special outside with the warm weather?

I filled the birdfeeders and baths today. It was a helluva workout. workout routines? - Page 2 2599972566

by **duffy munn** Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:09 pm

I got on the floor multiple times to play with my grandaughter today. I only needed help getting up twice.

by **Nordic** Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:37 pm

Couple of dog walks and got the new bicycle out for a test drive with the kid. She was home for spring break and we rode around the block. Made my day.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:29 am

duffy munn wrote:I got on the floor multiple times to play with my grandaughter today. I only needed help getting up twice.

cycling and running, for me, is much easier than getting up off the floor.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 am

a quick 60 minutes on the wind trainer downstairs this morning at 5:15 AM. Long trail run scheduled for early tomorrow.. between the snowmelt and the rain, gonna be a muddy one... which is awesome.

y'all keep moving. workout routines? - Page 2 3493939353

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:20 am

5 miles on the stationary bike at 19mph and then 4 miles on the treadmill in an hour uphill at 3.5 degrees this morning.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:32 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:5 miles on the stationary bike at 19mph and then 4 miles on the treadmill in an hour uphill at 3.5 degrees this morning.

damn, dude.. get it! workout routines? - Page 2 3493939353

by **Robert J Sakimano** Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:23 am

quick 18 mile bike ride this morning.. started predawn, misty rain - sun came up but the light rain persisted.

what are y'all doing this weekend? Trail running tomorrow morning - not sure about Sunday.

by **Floyd Robertson** Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:37 am

7 miles on the stationary + 3 miles on the treadmill this morning, probably hike 8-9 miles tomorrow and another 8-9 on Sunday.

Finally got outside on the bike last Monday and ripped off 22 miles with about 900's of elevation.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:56 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:7 miles on the stationary + 3 miles on the treadmill this morning, probably hike 8-9 miles tomorrow and another 8-9 on Sunday.

Finally got outside on the bike last Monday and ripped off 22 miles with about 900's of elevation.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:29 am

Gonna pick up a discount 4 week old Easter ham and do reps of lifting it to my mouth all weekend. Not even in slices im just going to be biting hunks off the ham and washing it down with mountain dew code red while i game with the boys

5’8
117 lbs
BP 180/27
RHR 76
Gaming RHR 187
General vibe- sickly

by AvgMSUJoe Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:43 pm

I do 3 sets of 40 pushups. A 5 min ab workout from the youtubes and 30 min on the treadmill usually ending in 2 + miles with an elevation. (Getting a knee shot next week, maybe i can run again?)
sucks having a chronic arthritis, you do what you can do.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed May 08, 2024 5:14 pm

Sunrise getting earlier and earlier.

Pretty okay vibe on a trail run this morning.

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed May 08, 2024 5:55 pm

Anybody here ever try Chair yoga?

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 08, 2024 6:52 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody here ever try Chair yoga?

Tried and failed. Put the chair on the mat and it didn’t move even once.

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed May 08, 2024 7:08 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody here ever try Chair yoga?

Tried and failed. Put the chair on the mat and it didn’t move even once.

You should have consulted with Fran McCaffrey. Bob Knight would have been better, but you know.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed May 08, 2024 7:36 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:Anybody here ever try Chair yoga?

have not - I know it's a thing and I've seen some 'chair yoga' shows on certain channels, usually very early in the morning. Likely a very worthwhile activity for the right demographic.

by **Dendrobates** Mon May 13, 2024 9:53 am

I miss when I had motivation to work out

by **Robert J Sakimano** Mon May 13, 2024 11:57 am

Dendrobates wrote:I miss when I had motivation to work out

ugh, yeah, that can be problematic.

might be more difficult for you, as well, with the kids. That's one thing I don't have these days, really, are other things pulling me in different directions. For the most part, I don't have a lot to do except what I want to do (which can make me a little sad, too - don't wish time away and enjoy every minute).

(sorry for the unsolicited lecture).

hopefully you can dig into some motivation - find it somewhere. It's there, you might just have to dust if off a bit. Other things, justifiably, take precedent, but stay strong, Dendro. Be a good example for the girls - maybe somehow work them into a workout periodically (Not all the time - you need that time for yourself, too) - but let them see a strong woman in action. Wink

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by Tyler Durden Tue May 14, 2024 5:39 pm

Dendrobates wrote:I miss when I had motivation to work out

I do it because I would go absolutely mental if I didn't. And I like to eat so I would be a total fat ass if I didn't.

But I get it. Everyone has something they struggle to be motivated with.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed May 15, 2024 12:28 pm

Beautiful morning for a trail run. 48°, got in about 45 minutes.

Planning on a quick bike ride this afternoon. After some yard work.

That time of year. workout routines? - Page 2 969504605

What are y'all up to relative to staying active?

by **Nordic** Wed May 15, 2024 12:39 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Beautiful morning for a trail run. 48°, got in about 45 minutes.

Planning on a quick bike ride this afternoon. After some yard work.

That time of year.

What are y'all up to relative to staying active?

Sleepy Hollow?

Been off any kinda routine the last month or so for various reasons. Moved 20 yards of sand this morning. Gonna be moving slow tonight/tomorrow.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed May 15, 2024 12:42 pm

Nordic wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Beautiful morning for a trail run. 48°, got in about 45 minutes.

Planning on a quick bike ride this afternoon. After some yard work.

That time of year.

What are y'all up to relative to staying active?

Sleepy Hollow?

Been off any kinda routine the last month or so for various reasons. Moved 20 yards of sand this morning. Gonna be moving slow tonight/tomorrow.

Lake Lansing North - my home away from home. Literally ran thousands of miles there over the years.

20 yards of sand? Shocked

I'd be in a body cast.

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 15, 2024 2:24 pm

I’m stepping up my walking game. workout routines? - Page 2 1494614055

Will start cycling when I get my bike back from getting a tuneup, but that won’t be for a few weeks yet since I haven’t taken it in for a tuneup.

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 15, 2024 2:27 pm

Nordic wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Beautiful morning for a trail run. 48°, got in about 45 minutes.

Planning on a quick bike ride this afternoon. After some yard work.

That time of year.

What are y'all up to relative to staying active?

Sleepy Hollow?

Been off any kinda routine the last month or so for various reasons. Moved 20 yards of sand this morning. Gonna be moving slow tonight/tomorrow.

Zero chance my knees and back would let me do that. I moved ten yards about six years ago, but wisely did it over three days and my back still hated me.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed May 15, 2024 2:32 pm

tGreenWay wrote:I’m stepping up my walking game.
Will start cycling when I get my bike back from getting a tuneup, but that won’t be for a few weeks yet since I haven’t taken it in for a tuneup.

where ya taking it to?

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed May 15, 2024 2:47 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:I’m stepping up my walking game.
Will start cycling when I get my bike back from getting a tuneup, but that won’t be for a few weeks yet since I haven’t taken it in for a tuneup.
where ya taking it to?

Probably your garage now workout routines? - Page 2 502811600

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 15, 2024 3:32 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:I’m stepping up my walking game.
Will start cycling when I get my bike back from getting a tuneup, but that won’t be for a few weeks yet since I haven’t taken it in for a tuneup.
where ya taking it to?

Well, I bought it from Central Park Bikes 25-ish years ago. If they’re still open, maybe there. I think there’s a trek store somewhere between here and Okemos, unless that’s what turned into Soldan’s.

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 15, 2024 3:33 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: where ya taking it to?

Probably your garage now

I’m the one wearing the black balaclava in the middle of a hot day. Gotta stay anonymous and there’s too many nosy neighbors with ring cams these days.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed May 15, 2024 3:53 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: where ya taking it to?

Well, I bought it from Central Park Bikes 25-ish years ago. If they’re still open, maybe there. I think there’s a trek store somewhere between here and Okemos, unless that’s what turned into Soldan’s.

I know the owner of Central Park Bikes died not too long ago, but I'm not surprised that the store is still open. They do a good business - I bought a Specialized bike from there maybe 8-10 years ago.

I've been going to Spin in Old Town since Hunter closed Evergreen on Grand River. Spin is a pretty good store and I've been impressed with the owner. I think his name is Chad.

by **tGreenWay** Wed May 15, 2024 8:59 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Well, I bought it from Central Park Bikes 25-ish years ago. If they’re still open, maybe there. I think there’s a trek store somewhere between here and Okemos, unless that’s what turned into Soldan’s.
I know the owner of Central Park Bikes died not too long ago, but I'm not surprised that the store is still open. They do a good business - I bought a Specialized bike from there maybe 8-10 years ago.

I've been going to Spin in Old Town since Hunter closed Evergreen on Grand River. Spin is a pretty good store and I've been impressed with the owner. I think his name is Chad.

I used to go to Velocipede but that closed a few years ago. Bought my first real bike there in 9th grade. Before that it was kids bikes or hand-me-downs. I think the brand of the bike was called SR.

by **Nordic** Thu May 16, 2024 9:45 am

My forearms arm smoked today. Back feels good, which is more important.

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