Funny article re: conspiracy theorists

Try to ignore the politics. I find the message much more interesting than that.

Do you know people like this? I definitely do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-facts-dont-matter-to-trumps-supporters/2016/08/04/924ece4a-5a78-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?postshare=8811470482915807&tid=ss_tw

Yes I think this is interesting, WBH. Also, yes, I know people like this. Finally, I find it disturbing that there are smart people that are figuring out that social media is a great way to reinforce the "repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth" maxim.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Try to ignore the politics. I find the message much more interesting than that.

Do you know people like this? I definitely do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-facts-dont-matter-to-trumps-supporters/2016/08/04/924ece4a-5a78-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?postshare=8811470482915807&tid=ss_tw

It's easy to ignore the politics because partisans on all sides do it. Human nature to believe the good in your guy and the bad in the other guy.

LooseGoose wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Try to ignore the politics. I find the message much more interesting than that.

Do you know people like this? I definitely do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-facts-dont-matter-to-trumps-supporters/2016/08/04/924ece4a-5a78-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?postshare=8811470482915807&tid=ss_tw

It's easy to ignore the politics because partisans on all sides do it. Human nature to believe the good in your guy and the bad in the other guy.

I don't think that's not really the point. The point is when presented with facts, many people will double down on their erroneously held beliefs. The secondary point is, when presented with facts in a calm and analytical manner, at least some of those people will actually change their minds.

Rocinante wrote:Yes I think this is interesting, WBH. Also, yes, I know people like this. Finally, I find it disturbing that there are smart people that are figuring out that social media is a great way to reinforce the "repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth" maxim.

Basically people are not smart

Rocinante wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

It's easy to ignore the politics because partisans on all sides do it. Human nature to believe the good in your guy and the bad in the other guy.

I don't think that's not really the point. The point is when presented with facts, many people will double down on their erroneously held beliefs. The secondary point is, when presented with facts in a calm and analytical manner, at least some of those people will actually change their minds.

You could hope for that. How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?

LooseGoose wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

I don't think that's not really the point. The point is when presented with facts, many people will double down on their erroneously held beliefs. The secondary point is, when presented with facts in a calm and analytical manner, at least some of those people will actually change their minds.

You could hope for that. How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?

How many minds have you changed here at tSwill with all your links?

LooseGoose wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

I don't think that's not really the point. The point is when presented with facts, many people will double down on their erroneously held beliefs. The secondary point is, when presented with facts in a calm and analytical manner, at least some of those people will actually change their minds.

You could hope for that. How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?

A few. And as the article points out, it's really been trump himself that has finally turned them against him.

Herbie Green wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

You could hope for that. How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?

How many minds have you changed here at tSwill with all your links?

Sorry about cluttering your life with those links Herbie. Is it your opinion that the board would be better if I just drove by and spewed some shit occasionally like you?

LooseGoose wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

How many minds have you changed here at tSwill with all your links?

Sorry about cluttering your life with those links Herbie. Is it your opinion that the board would be better if I just drove by and spewed some shit occasionally like you?

No need to apologize, I like all posters, even those guys that are always swearing at me.

LooseGoose wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

How many minds have you changed here at tSwill with all your links?

Sorry about cluttering your life with those links Herbie. Is it your opinion that the board would be better if I just drove by and spewed some shit occasionally like you?

I would like you to keep posting goose :)

Herbie Green wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Sorry about cluttering your life with those links Herbie. Is it your opinion that the board would be better if I just drove by and spewed some shit occasionally like you?

No need to apologize, I like all posters, even those guys that are always swearing at me.

You're an angry little man.

Death Roe wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

No need to apologize, I like all posters, even those guys that are always swearing at me.

You're an angry little man.

Lol

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Herbie Green wrote:

No need to apologize, I like all posters, even those guys that are always swearing at me.

he's an angry old man, isn't he?

Actually I'm a pretty happy old man with a very low tolerance for jackasses.

aualum06 wrote:

Rocinante wrote:Yes I think this is interesting, WBH. Also, yes, I know people like this. Finally, I find it disturbing that there are smart people that are figuring out that social media is a great way to reinforce the "repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth" maxim.

Basically people are not smart

Basically this is the explanation.

LooseGoose wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

I don't think that's not really the point.  The point is when presented with facts, many people will double down on their erroneously held beliefs.  The secondary point is, when presented with facts in a calm and analytical manner, at least some of those people will actually change their minds.

You could hope for that.   How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?  

I know I have. When I first saw Trump I was intrigued. I thought he told it like it was and was believable. I liked his message at first because he was an outsider.  Then his mental instability started to manifest itself in the form of hardcore bullying type of attacks of his opponents and anyone who didn't agree with his positions.  I mean, he tilted on so many different levels.  So, my opinion started to change. I watched his nomination speech and then I watched Hillary's speech.  Hillary blew him away in my mind and she solidified her message.  Trump is unfit and too much of a loose cannon to be President. He's a bully and a dick.  I no longer even like him.

Tanfan! wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

You could hope for that.   How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?  

I know I have. When I first saw Trump I was intrigued. I thought he told it like it was and was believable. I liked his message at first because he was an outsider.  Then his mental instability started to manifest itself in the form of hardcore bullying type of attacks of his opponents and anyone who didn't agree with his positions.  I mean, he tilted on so many different levels.  So, my opinion started to change. I watched his nomination speech and then I watched Hillary's speech.  Hillary blew him away in my mind and she solidified her message.  Trump is unfit and too much of a loose cannon to be President. He's a bully and a dick.  I no longer even like him.

Hilary is better??? Wow....

Robert J Sakimano wrote:the greatest thing about the Trump debacle is that the republican party is 100% responsible for his popularity among their misogynistic, racist, bigoted ranks.

From the article:
Bottom line: Vilifying Trump voters — or, alternatively, parents who don’t want to have their children vaccinated — won’t convince them they’re wrong. Probably it will have the opposite effect.

Blanch32 wrote:

Tanfan! wrote:

I know I have. When I first saw Trump I was intrigued. I thought he told it like it was and was believable. I liked his message at first because he was an outsider.  Then his mental instability started to manifest itself in the form of hardcore bullying type of attacks of his opponents and anyone who didn't agree with his positions.  I mean, he tilted on so many different levels.  So, my opinion started to change. I watched his nomination speech and then I watched Hillary's speech.  Hillary blew him away in my mind and she solidified her message.  Trump is unfit and too much of a loose cannon to be President. He's a bully and a dick.  I no longer even like him.

Hilary is better???  Wow....

Who are you voting for, Honerz?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:
From the article:
Bottom line: Vilifying Trump voters — or, alternatively, parents who don’t want to have their children vaccinated — won’t convince them they’re wrong. Probably it will have the opposite effect.

they're also intellectually vapid.

just because all of that is true, doesn't mean I can't point it out. If they choose to buckle down and illustrate their misogyny, racism and bigotry - along with their vacant intellectual capacity - it simply proves me right.

Lov3 the sarcasm here Bob. Nailed it

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Blanch32 wrote:

Hilary is better???  Wow....

Who are you voting for, Honerz?

Trump or Johnson. The democrats are misogynist, racists, ageist, and class warfare against me.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:
From the article:
Bottom line: Vilifying Trump voters — or, alternatively, parents who don’t want to have their children vaccinated — won’t convince them they’re wrong. Probably it will have the opposite effect.

they're also intellectually vapid.

just because all of that is true, doesn't mean I can't point it out. If they choose to buckle down and illustrate their misogyny, racism and bigotry - along with their vacant intellectual capacity - it simply proves me right.

I wasn't talking about them Bob. That's you. You are all of that and you just won't believe it. You dig your heels in and double down.

It used to frustrate me. Now it's just fun to get you going. Let's have the "bump" now.

Tanfan! wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

You could hope for that.   How many people do you know that have changed their minds RE:Trump or Hills?  

I know I have. When I first saw Trump I was intrigued. I thought he told it like it was and was believable. I liked his message at first because he was an outsider.  Then his mental instability started to manifest itself in the form of hardcore bullying type of attacks of his opponents and anyone who didn't agree with his positions.  I mean, he tilted on so many different levels.  So, my opinion started to change. I watched his nomination speech and then I watched Hillary's speech.  Hillary blew him away in my mind and she solidified her message.  Trump is unfit and too much of a loose cannon to be President. He's a bully and a dick.  I no longer even like him.

Tanfan hates himself.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I worry about the emotional health of people who shout obscenities at someone with whom they disagree.

That or you're concern trolling. I vote for the latter.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Try to ignore the politics. I find the message much more interesting than that.

Do you know people like this? I definitely do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-facts-dont-matter-to-trumps-supporters/2016/08/04/924ece4a-5a78-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?postshare=8811470482915807&tid=ss_tw

How the heck do you ignore politics in that article? ROFL WBH you are better than this.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:

I wasn't talking about them Bob. That's you.  You are all of that and you just won't believe it. You dig your heels in and double down.  

It used to frustrate me. Now it's just fun to get you going. Let's have the "bump" now.

I'm glad you've finally realized that getting frustrated with someone on a sports message board is futile.

now if only others here were so self-aware as to accomplish the same thing.. I worry about the emotional health of people who shout obscenities at someone with whom they disagree.

I'm telling you it's the greatest. He really doesn't see it.

Bob, you couldn't be more ironic or blissfully ignorant about yourself. It's the best.

Always find it funny when Dems try and talk about facts and truth. It's too much, really.

The_Dude wrote:Always find it funny when Dems try and talk about facts and truth. It's too much, really.

Boring YAFI.

The left fear mongering for votes? Never!

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:
From the article:
Bottom line: Vilifying Trump voters — or, alternatively, parents who don’t want to have their children vaccinated — won’t convince them they’re wrong. Probably it will have the opposite effect.

they're also intellectually vapid.

just because all of that is true, doesn't mean I can't point it out. If they choose to buckle down and illustrate their misogyny, racism and bigotry - along with their vacant intellectual capacity - it simply proves me right.

That is just "them" for you. They just can't understand that you are right and that is why you don't ever budge from your position.

The_Dude wrote:The left fear mongering for votes?  Never!

Fear mongering like Donald Trump's convention speech? You know, I always hear how violent crime is decreasing in the US but now I am told the US is one big Gotham City. But you and facts do not get along all that well.

Your trolling is getting old. I have no idea why Moose and SD got the boot while you are allowed to continue. It's quite unfair. Since Blanch thinks the Constitution applies to message boards, he should be making an equal protection and due process claim on behalf of those two.

I don't think SD got the boot. Dude had a meltdown and quit forever. Requested his account get deleted.

But yeah - bring back moose.

Oh jesus give it a rest

Turtleneck wrote:

The_Dude wrote:The left fear mongering for votes?  Never!

Fear mongering like Donald Trump's convention speech? You know, I always hear how violent crime is decreasing in the US but now I am told the US is one big Gotham City. But you and facts do not get along all that well.

Your trolling is getting old. I have no idea why Moose and SD got the boot while you are allowed to continue. It's quite unfair. Since Blanch thinks the Constitution applies to message boards, he should be making an equal protection and due process claim on behalf of those two.

Wouldn't it be funny if right when foot meets ball on opening night at MSU somebody banned Dude?