Were Green and White days a bad idea in hindsight?

by **The_Dude** Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:16 pm

Shelton said team came out flat. We could tell from the stands. Sounds like a losers excuse to just say you come out flat, but if that's the case, how the hell do you come out flat for the biggest game of the year thus far, and at home? Seems like the team thought too highly of themselves and got served humble pie.

by **kingstonlake** Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:17 pm

by Clarett's Folly Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:22 pm

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:23 pm

Was it the 30-6 part that made you think the team came out flat from the stands?

by Triple Sparty Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:31 pm

Not sure if flat or not, but I didn't think team played bad at all overall.

by Guest Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:35 pm

Yes, a preseason television show caused us to lose game 3. Impeccable logic.

by **tGreenWay** Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:43 pm

Great thread. Will bookmark to read again while pooping.

by **The_Dude** Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:48 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Yes, a preseason television show caused us to lose game 3. Impeccable logic.

Everything is fair game when you get shit housed at home to Wisky

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:11 pm

We got our asses kicked because we got our asses kicked.

by **kingstonlake** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:12 pm

The_Dude wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Yes, a preseason television show caused us to lose game 3. Impeccable logic.

Everything is fair game when you get shit housed at home to Wisky

Oh. well in that case do you think o'connor being a voted a captain and being a lockeroom leader was a bad idea?

by **kingstonlake** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:13 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:We got our asses kicked because we got our asses kicked.

that's not possible!!

by **Death Roe** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:14 pm

The_Dude wrote:Shelton said team came out flat. We could tell from the stands. Sounds like a losers excuse to just say you come out flat, but if that's the case, how the hell do you come out flat for the biggest game of the year thus far, and at home? Seems like the team thought too highly of themselves and got served humble pie.

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by **GRR Spartan** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:29 pm

Telling fans what to wear can blow up n your face. Look what happened in Knoxville last weekend

by **Dendrobates** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:50 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Everything is fair game when you get shit housed at home to Wisky

Oh. well in that case do you think o'connor being a voted a captain and being a lockeroom leader was a bad idea?

I agree with everyone above. They played like shit, and that can and should be called out on. I don't think the blame is all on O'Conner though. Offense and defense sucked all around.

by CheesySpartan Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:53 pm

Triple Sparty wrote:Not sure if flat or not, but I didn't think team played bad at all overall.

You serious Clark???

by CheesySpartan Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:54 pm

Dendrobates wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Oh. well in that case do you think o'connor being a voted a captain and being a lockeroom leader was a bad idea?

I agree with everyone above. They played like shit, and that can and should be called out on. I don't think the blame is all on O'Conner though. Offense and defense sucked all around.

Defense was fine. Offense was awful.

by **Floyd Robertson** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:55 pm

CheesySpartan wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:

I agree with everyone above. They played like shit, and that can and should be called out on. I don't think the blame is all on O'Conner though. Offense and defense sucked all around.

Defense was fine. Offense was awful.

Not counting third and long, sure.

by CheesySpartan Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:55 pm

Death Roe wrote:
The_Dude wrote:Shelton said team came out flat. We could tell from the stands. Sounds like a losers excuse to just say you come out flat, but if that's the case, how the hell do you come out flat for the biggest game of the year thus far, and at home? Seems like the team thought too highly of themselves and got served humble pie.

Dude says a lot of dumb shit but this is pretty accurate.

by CheesySpartan Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:56 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

Defense was fine. Offense was awful.

Not counting third and long, sure.

Coverage was there. Pass rush was a step behind it seemed but that QB threaded it on multiple occasions. Hats off

by **Death Roe** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:58 pm

Triple Sparty wrote:Not sure if flat or not, but I didn't think team played bad at all overall.

by **Dendrobates** Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:12 pm

CheesySpartan wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:

I agree with everyone above. They played like shit, and that can and should be called out on. I don't think the blame is all on O'Conner though. Offense and defense sucked all around.

Defense was fine. Offense was awful.

How many 3rd and longs did they give up? It was a constant disappointment waiting for that hard take down, and nothing happened. Then adding on their 2 4th down conversions.

At least the penalties were a little better. Had to think of something positive to say with that monstrosity of top 10 team at home.

by Clarett's Folly Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:13 pm

Death Roe wrote:
Triple Sparty wrote:Not sure if flat or not, but I didn't think team played bad at all overall.

Lol. Nailed it.

by **Dendrobates** Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:14 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

Defense was fine. Offense was awful.

Not counting third and long, sure.

Beat me to it.

by **DWags** Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:32 pm

OSU did fine last year after their episodes with the show.

They only lost one game and they weren't supposed to be that good at all.

by Triple Sparty Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:40 pm

Wisconsin capitalized on our mistakes to tune of twenty points. We just needed to make a few more play, especially on third. But we didn't and Wisconsin did. Doesn't mean we played bad.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:49 pm

Triple Sparty wrote:Wisconsin capitalized on our mistakes to tune of twenty points. We just needed to make a few more play, especially on third. But we didn't and Wisconsin did. Doesn't mean we played bad.

Why don't you take a knee champ. You're embarrassing yourself.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:07 pm

MSU played bad, guy.

by Triple Sparty Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:09 pm

Don't you take a knee when you're firmly the victor?

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:19 am

Triple Sparty wrote:Don't you take a knee when you're firmly the victor?

Yeah, sure.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:35 am

if I knew a TV show had the power to sway a football season I would've actually watched it out of intrigue.

by **Dendrobates** Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:35 am

Let's also not forget that Wiconsin had a freshman QB. I was thinking it would get owned by MSU. Sure, we could stop them on the first 2 downs, but that doesn't mean shit. The argument I hear is that defense did enough to technically win, which may be the case. Doesn't excuse Wisconsin getting first downs several times from 3rd and long. Offense was shit, I think we can all agree with that. I don't think it's all Conners fault, but he was a big factor. Wisconsin was prepared and could read every play , and they showed they wanted it way more. MSU played like it was a nothing scrimmage , and no where close showed top 10 or even top 25 talent. Can MSU pull it off for the rest of the season? Maybe. They have done it several years in a row. But it's a big difference with it being at home, and completely getting owned.

I'm not that hopeful that they will pull it off. But Dantonio always seem to have something up his sleeve, so I hope he continues to prove everyone wrong .

by **InTenSity** Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:11 am

I'm going to pull a mentalstate here.
There were 2 blatant Offensive PI's that weren't called. One of them happened on a long and 3rd, I think, or at least on a second and short that would have moved the ball back. Give Wisconsin credit though, they played a perfect game and I think later in the season, we're going to see that this isn't a bad loss.

by **The_Dude** Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:30 am

by **Death Roe** Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:35 am

Obsession.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:38 am

Good call Lebowski. It definitely didn't help.

by **The_Dude** Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:51 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Good call Lebowski. It definitely didn't help.

Yeah, as Dantonio has said multiple times, the team got fat and sassy.

Which boggles the mind, because programs with more success than MSU didnt get that way.

Maybe Dantonio himself lost his edge and it filtered down through the players.

Meyer, Harbaugh, Saban, etc would never let a team get complacent like that.

The thing is though, you are either getting better or you are getting worse. MSU did nothing in the off season to improve. The offensive coaches were not good, even the last 3 years when MSU had really good teams. The luck of having lowly recruited guys turn into studs hid the warts of the coaching staff. And the D has gotten worse every year since PN left.

The inability to gameplan and coach around what you have to work with is simply astounding.

by **By-Tor** Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:54 am

Yes G&W days causes Cox to play 10 yards off his man on 3rd and 8 out routes. Over and over and over and over and over.

by **duffy munn** Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:49 pm

By-Tor wrote:Yes G&W days causes Cox to play 10 yards off his man on 3rd and 8 out routes. Over and over and over and over and over.

They also injured Reschke and Bullough , caused failed drugs tests, transfers and bone headed play calling.

Fuck BTN.

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