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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Guest 2017-03-25, 13:11
I think he'll be a good hire for them.
Another Izzo succession candidate off the board.
Another Izzo succession candidate off the board.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by aualum06 2017-03-25, 13:13
LooseGoose wrote:I think he'll be a good hire for them.
Another Izzo succession candidate off the board.
They fire crean to hire Archie Miller I'm not sure that's the hire they were hoping for
And a 7 year deal?
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by tGreenWay 2017-03-25, 14:24
aualum06 wrote:LooseGoose wrote:I think he'll be a good hire for them.
Another Izzo succession candidate off the board.
They fire crean to hire Archie Miller I'm not sure that's the hire they were hoping for
And a 7 year deal?
I wonder if they wanted Flex and he turned them down.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Guest 2017-03-25, 15:53
This column is almost scary.....
Doyel: Fred Glass knocks it out of the park with Archie Miller
Doyel: Fred Glass knocks it out of the park with Archie Miller
Archie Miller came to N.C. State to play for his brother, who was on Herb Sendek’s staff with the Wolfpack, and to be groomed to become a head coach himself. Archie and his older brother, Sean, were born into a basketball family. John Miller coached his boys at Blackhawk High School, and he raised them to be coaches. All over the ACC, people knew. I mean, we knew. The Miller kids, they’re going to be monster coaches someday.
Sean Miller became one of the country’s youngest head coaches at age 35 at Xavier, then averaged 24 wins over five years, went to four NCAA tournaments, reached one Elite Eight. If he could do that at Xavier, what could Sean Miller do at Arizona? Put it this way: It took him just two years to return the Wildcats to the college basketball elite. They won 32 games this season. Earned a No. 1 seed. Arizona’s in great hands.
And now, so is Indiana. What Sean Miller did at Xavier? Archie Miller damn near duplicated it at Dayton. Go back and re-read that last paragraph, please. And then watch this:
Archie Miller became one of the country’s youngest head coaches at age 32 at Dayton, then averaged 23 wins over six years, went to four NCAA tournaments, reached one Elite Eight.
If he could do that at Dayton, what could Archie Miller do at Indiana? You’ll see. And you’ll see it soon.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Blanch32 2017-03-25, 16:01
LooseGoose wrote:MattyFresh wrote:Fife to Dayton?
That's possible.
Or cream gets it.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by MattyFresh 2017-03-25, 16:01
LooseGoose wrote:This column is almost scary.....
Doyel: Fred Glass knocks it out of the park with Archie MillerArchie Miller came to N.C. State to play for his brother, who was on Herb Sendek’s staff with the Wolfpack, and to be groomed to become a head coach himself. Archie and his older brother, Sean, were born into a basketball family. John Miller coached his boys at Blackhawk High School, and he raised them to be coaches. All over the ACC, people knew. I mean, we knew. The Miller kids, they’re going to be monster coaches someday.
Sean Miller became one of the country’s youngest head coaches at age 35 at Xavier, then averaged 24 wins over five years, went to four NCAA tournaments, reached one Elite Eight. If he could do that at Xavier, what could Sean Miller do at Arizona? Put it this way: It took him just two years to return the Wildcats to the college basketball elite. They won 32 games this season. Earned a No. 1 seed. Arizona’s in great hands.
And now, so is Indiana. What Sean Miller did at Xavier? Archie Miller damn near duplicated it at Dayton. Go back and re-read that last paragraph, please. And then watch this:
Archie Miller became one of the country’s youngest head coaches at age 32 at Dayton, then averaged 23 wins over six years, went to four NCAA tournaments, reached one Elite Eight.
If he could do that at Dayton, what could Archie Miller do at Indiana? You’ll see. And you’ll see it soon.
Return to greatness? Wasn't Lute Olsen the coach before Sean?
Oh and WHAT CAN HE DO?!?!? He got to the elite 8, same distance at Xavier. Meanwhile he just lost to Xavier... and was outcoached by Mack
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Floyd Robertson 2017-03-25, 16:03
MattyFresh wrote:Fife to Dayton?
Why not, they've already tapped the Izzo pipeline before.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Clarett's Folly 2017-03-25, 16:20
A quick glance at the IU boards tell me that they're coming to grips with being just another Big Ten school.
Also a certain number of them hilariously thought they'd be getting Billy Donovan. So... That's funny.
Also a certain number of them hilariously thought they'd be getting Billy Donovan. So... That's funny.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by GRR Spartan 2017-03-25, 17:57
IU fans have zero recent memory and evidently no common sense if they thought Donovan would walk away from OKC with 3 years lefy on his 5 yr/$30M contract.
Put them back to 1971 and they would have gone apeshit when IU hired 40 year old Army coach Bobby Knight.
MSU will repeat what other good programs have done and hire a legacy coach or one that's on the current staff. Unfortunately that practice usually isn't successful. Other than Joe B Hall taking over for Rupp at UK I can't recall a successful transition.
Put them back to 1971 and they would have gone apeshit when IU hired 40 year old Army coach Bobby Knight.
MSU will repeat what other good programs have done and hire a legacy coach or one that's on the current staff. Unfortunately that practice usually isn't successful. Other than Joe B Hall taking over for Rupp at UK I can't recall a successful transition.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Blanch32 2017-03-25, 18:10
GRR Spartan wrote:IU fans have zero recent memory and evidently no common sense if they thought Donovan would walk away from OKC with 3 years lefy on his 5 yr/$30M contract.
Put them back to 1971 and they would have gone apeshit when IU hired 40 year old Army coach Bobby Knight.
That's the problem with 1 coach programs. watch duke follow the same trajectory
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by GRR Spartan 2017-03-26, 09:33
Some thought Miller would wait for the Ohio State job. Besides Motta being 49 (he was 37 when OSU hired him) Miller is going IU, a Big Ten school where basketball has always been more important than football.
At IU Miller will be paid more than the football coach and won't get the short end of any funding. That will never happen in Columbus.
At IU Miller will be paid more than the football coach and won't get the short end of any funding. That will never happen in Columbus.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Cameron 2017-03-26, 13:10
GRR Spartan wrote:IU fans have zero recent memory and evidently no common sense if they thought Donovan would walk away from OKC with 3 years lefy on his 5 yr/$30M contract.
Put them back to 1971 and they would have gone apeshit when IU hired 40 year old Army coach Bobby Knight.
MSU will repeat what other good programs have done and hire a legacy coach or one that's on the current staff. Unfortunately that practice usually isn't successful. Other than Joe B Hall taking over for Rupp at UK I can't recall a successful transition.
Really? You can't think of another example of a transition being successful?
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by CheesySpartan 2017-03-26, 13:23
Cameron wrote:GRR Spartan wrote:IU fans have zero recent memory and evidently no common sense if they thought Donovan would walk away from OKC with 3 years lefy on his 5 yr/$30M contract.
Put them back to 1971 and they would have gone apeshit when IU hired 40 year old Army coach Bobby Knight.
MSU will repeat what other good programs have done and hire a legacy coach or one that's on the current staff. Unfortunately that practice usually isn't successful. Other than Joe B Hall taking over for Rupp at UK I can't recall a successful transition.
Really? You can't think of another example of a transition being successful?
Well there was that Izzo guy...
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Cameron 2017-03-26, 14:14
CheesySpartan wrote:Cameron wrote:
Really? You can't think of another example of a transition being successful?
Well there was that Izzo guy...
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by GRR Spartan 2017-03-26, 14:49
Besides MSU.
You think MSU will get lucky twice and MSU wasn't basketball royalty like IU, UK, KU, UCLA, UNC. Some argue MSU still hasn't broken through and Izzo is one of them.
Cheesy and Cameron got another example. MSU wasn't thought of as a Top 10 or Top 5 job when Izzo took over. I admire your condifence the MSU will get lightning in the bottle twice.
You think MSU will get lucky twice and MSU wasn't basketball royalty like IU, UK, KU, UCLA, UNC. Some argue MSU still hasn't broken through and Izzo is one of them.
Cheesy and Cameron got another example. MSU wasn't thought of as a Top 10 or Top 5 job when Izzo took over. I admire your condifence the MSU will get lightning in the bottle twice.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by tGreenWay 2017-03-26, 14:55
The old saying goes: Don't be the guy to replace a legend: Be the guy who replaces the guy who was a legend.
I hope I'm wrong, but I expect a period of disappointment with TI's immediate successor. OTOH, if Tom is allowed to name his own replacement and there's a 2-3 year transition (same as Jud to Tom) then it might work the way it did the first time. Realistically, we won't be getting another future HoF coach, nor one who spends his entire career in EL.
I hope I'm wrong, but I expect a period of disappointment with TI's immediate successor. OTOH, if Tom is allowed to name his own replacement and there's a 2-3 year transition (same as Jud to Tom) then it might work the way it did the first time. Realistically, we won't be getting another future HoF coach, nor one who spends his entire career in EL.
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Herbie Green 2017-03-26, 23:03
tGreenWay wrote:The old saying goes: Don't be the guy to replace a legend: Be the guy who replaces the guy who was a legend.
You just blew my mind
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Re: Archie Miller to IU
by Guest 2017-03-26, 23:17
Herbie Green wrote:tGreenWay wrote:The old saying goes: Don't be the guy to replace a legend: Be the guy who replaces the guy who was a legend.
You just blew my mind
The world didn't lose much.
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