Meanwhile, over at the White house, the administration is busy blocking the CDC from using certain words

CDC officials will not be able to use the following words in budget documents:

evidence-based
science-based
vulnerable
entitlement
diversity
transgender
fetus

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?utm_term=.413556e692d4

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/16/16784498/cdc-seven-words-science-transgender-fetus

Fuck Republicans

InTenSity wrote:Fuck Republicans

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Turtleneck wrote:CDC officials will not be able to use the following words in budget documents:

evidence-based
science-based
vulnerable
entitlement
diversity
transgender
fetus

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?utm_term=.413556e692d4

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/16/16784498/cdc-seven-words-science-transgender-fetus

Two things.

Party of limited government-please that's officially a joke.

Second point is this is just another case to muddy the waters on research and real data. I mean just come out and say "we really hate education" at least that's honest.

msugolfguy wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:CDC officials will not be able to use the following words in budget documents:

evidence-based
science-based
vulnerable
entitlement
diversity
transgender
fetus

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?utm_term=.413556e692d4

https://www.vox.com/2017/12/16/16784498/cdc-seven-words-science-transgender-fetus

Two things.

Party of limited government-please that's officially a joke.

Second point is this is just another case to muddy the waters on research and real data. I mean just come out and say "we really hate education" at least that's honest.

Lol MSU golf guy you ever think about what it’ll be like in like 2026 when some over the top trump supporter like goose tries to go back on their shit and say things like “nah I’m just for limited government”

That’ll be fun. Fuck these people forever

Just the start of real bad shit going on unless you're a real fan of authoritarian oligarch rule

1.  Roll back FCC net neutrality so corporations can more easily sell or give personal information to companies.

2. Limit speech by Federal employees at the CDC.  

3.  Trump laying groundwork to clean house at the FBI with a new set of lies about how disfunctional the agency has become, evidently since he became President.

4.  Control the vote through Federal and state election fraud myths by limiting who can vote.

Keep saying it.  Its astounding to see what Pro-Life Evangelicals, Roman Catholic and especially women will sacrifice.  Electing Trump and the 50 rubber stamps in the US Senate says it all while hiding under the shtoud of small government.

Catholics are pretty liberal as far as religious folk go grr. Just an FYI. Pretty much a 50/50 split, give or take either way depending on the poll.

Wake up Travis. You think its coincidence that state and Federal legislative districts that voted for Democrats since 1960 ( JFK) and others going back to 1932 (FDR) with significant Roman Catholic demographics have been going to the GOP column since the GOP began using abortion as a litmus test.

I'm pointing out what two large segments that are very active promoting the "Right to Life" and getting GOP politicians elected are willing to give up.

By tommorow we'll be reading or hearing remarks by apologists saying its not that big a deal, just a few words. You want to guess what agencies follow suite?
EPA, DOE, FCC?

Okay cool but feel free to google that or whatever before you start talking again

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

msugolfguy wrote:

Two things.

Party of limited government-please that's officially a joke.

Second point is this is just another case to muddy the waters on research and real data. I mean just come out and say "we really hate education" at least that's honest.

Lol MSU golf guy you ever think about what it’ll be like in like 2026 when some over the top trump supporter like goose tries to go back on their shit and say things like “nah I’m just for limited government”

That’ll be fun. Fuck these people forever

Well I'm not at the Fuck em level yet. I think they have some reasonable arguments for limited government on a lot of things.

However in discussion to this specific case it's clearly a steer towards a world view. Sorry that science doesn't back all your positions in life. It sucks, I get it.

Maybe I missed something but I just don't understand what the point is on some of these items. This doesn't help anyone or the general public. I'm general curious what the last administration did to piss them off to levels I've never seen.

All you need to do is look at demographic data on legislative districts that have flipped to safe GOP districts. I live in one.

GRR Spartan wrote:All you need to do is look at demographic data on legislative districts that have flipped to safe GOP districts.  I live in one.  

You talking about Catholics? Cause, I promise your comparison is really bad man. I don’t really care about your district tbh. Catholics do not equal evangelicals. Hell even captain evangelical, lws, will happily confirm that for you.

Catholics have a significant number of voters who join Evangelicals voting GOP based on Right to Life litmus test.

Not all Evangelicals are Trump supporters either. I grew up as a Baptist (Midwest Wheaton College based ), went Missouri Synod Lutheran and left both when Right to Life politics began getting preached on Sundays. Not all Catholics are Trump supporters but enough are now solid GOP voters in enough legislative districts to combine with small government types and Evangelicals to get GOP controlled legislatures.

GRR Spartan wrote:Catholics have a significant number of voters who join Evangelicals voting GOP based on Right to Life litmus test.  

Well, I mean... trump did win the election.

Look I’m just saying that there are a hell of a lot of liberal Catholics. There aren’t many liberal evangelicals. That’s all. If you didn’t know that (and I suspect you just sort of equated the two before) you do now.  

GRR Spartan wrote:Catholics have a significant number of voters who join Evangelicals voting GOP based on Right to Life litmus test.

Not all Evangelicals are Trump supporters either. I grew up as a Baptist (Midwest Wheaton College based ), went Missouri Synod Lutheran and left both when Right to Life politics began getting preached on Sundays. Not all Catholics are Trump supporters but enough are now solid GOP voters in enough legislative districts to combine with small government types and Evangelicals to get GOP controlled legislatures.

Wheaton College is a weird place.

DWags wrote:Mueller gets fired on Friday.

By the CDC?

GRR Spartan wrote:Catholics have a significant number of voters who join Evangelicals voting GOP based on Right to Life litmus test.

Not all Evangelicals are Trump supporters either. I grew up as a Baptist (Midwest Wheaton College based ), went Missouri Synod Lutheran and left both when Right to Life politics began getting preached on Sundays. Not all Catholics are Trump supporters but enough are now solid GOP voters in enough legislative districts to combine with small government types and Evangelicals to get GOP controlled legislatures.

I grew up and went to school at Missouri Synod Lutheran. Do you consider them evangelicals? Guess it doesn’t matter either way .

I do see a bigger difference in Catholics choosing the left over the right. I have no data or info, but would you think a majority of the 1% who are religious are more catholic than Protestant? Just thinking out loud.

This topic was One do the things that I felt, couldn’t be seriously true. Had to be fake news . But the WH won’t explain it further when the media questions it.

Even though I am burning with extreme anger with this, it made me laugh . Like really laugh. Almost like, just keep bringing it Trump. The hate is so so strong , that 2018 elections should be a breeze.

More freedom loving “small government” at work.

EPA employees who went public opposing agency budget cuts have and are being investigated by an opposition research firm hired by the EPA under Pruitt.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/17/us/politics/epa-pruitt-media-monitoring.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

My sister calls this fake news because of a statement released by the CDC yesterday (I think)

Link

Meanwhile reporting by the NYT and others from sources who wish to remain anonymous continue to say actually, yes, they have been "advised" not to use these terms and that "advice" has come from outside the agency (i.e. the White House), AND it actually goes much deeper than these terms or this agency.  Also the White House continues to refer questions to HHS, which refers them back to the White House.

Transparency like a cinder block wall, this admin.  They really are fascists.  We were right all along.

Rocinante wrote:My sister calls this fake news because of a statement released by the CDC yesterday (I think)

Link

Meanwhile reporting by the NYT and others from sources who wish to remain anonymous continue to say actually, yes, they have been "advised" not to use these terms and that "advice" has come from outside the agency (i.e. the White House), AND it actually goes much deeper than these terms or this agency.  Also the White House continues to refer questions to HHS, which refers them back to the White House.

Transparency like a cinder block wall, this admin.  They really are fascists.  We were right all along.

What happens in 2020 when they lose will be fascinating but probably actually terrifying. It’s definitely not going to be “oh you won okay here are the keys to the White House good luck.”