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Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty.

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Post by Rocinante 2018-10-21, 16:08

It means they can start stockpiling short range arms on the European border. It’s a win for them. Which is how it was planned.

This guy is bought and paid for.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/21/cold-war-weapons-treaty-inf-russia-us-donald-trump
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Post by GRR Spartan 2018-10-21, 20:15

Would you pick a fight with the company that holds your mortgage?

Between the Russian oligarchs, Saudi financiers connected to the Royal Family’s bank accounts and China manufacturing many of the Trump branded goods, President Trump has no room to care about the USA
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2019-01-31, 20:13

WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING FUCK.

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Post by Rocinante 2019-02-01, 00:26

Any joy I have at being right is destroyed by the fact that our president is a Kremlin stooge.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2019-02-01, 00:46

I don't understand people. Abortion. Whatever other issues. Don't understand.

Common sense. It's not that hard. Common fucking sense. Put your guns and abortion scalpels aside. Put your race aside. Common fucking sense.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-01, 06:40

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't understand people. Abortion. Whatever other issues. Don't understand.

Common sense. It's not that hard. Common fucking sense. Put your guns and abortion scalpels aside. Put your race aside. Common fucking sense.
I just wish the "pro life" folks when it comes to abortion were truly pro-life.

turns out, they're typically the most sadistic people in the country.
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Post by TheReal_LWS 2019-02-01, 08:04

lol!

I love feigned outrage.
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Post by Heat Miser 2019-02-01, 09:19

TheReal_LWS wrote:lol!

I love feigned outrage.

^^^Goose sock puppet. Cute & original. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-01, 09:25

"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"... Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600

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Post by DWags 2019-02-01, 09:54

Robert J Sakimano wrote:"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"....Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600

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I don't exactly know what's going on, but I know that Putin has confused things enough in our country to be happy about it.
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Post by TheReal_LWS 2019-02-01, 10:09

Heat Miser wrote:
TheReal_LWS wrote:lol!

I love feigned outrage.

^^^Goose sock puppet. Cute & original. Rolling Eyes

Awwww, look at little Heatie..........the tool of tools.
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Post by Dr. Strangelove 2019-02-01, 11:56

Um....Obama certified that Russia was violating the treaty back in 14. Why would we continue to abide by the treaty?

Now we can base missiles and radars in Poland ourselves to the determent of Russia and without violation of said treaty.

It's a plus for the USA and a minus for Putin

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-01, 12:27

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Um....Obama certified that Russia was violating the treaty back in 14. Why would we continue to abide by the treaty?

Now we can base missiles and radars in Poland ourselves to the determent of Russia and without violation of said treaty.

It's a plus for the USA and a minus for Putin

if you believe the mainstream media it is.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-01, 12:32

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"....Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600

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I don't exactly know what's going on, but I know that Putin has confused things enough in our country to be happy about it.
yeah - basically, it reinforces the notion that China is the sole world power and that the United States, in a shock to nobody, is under Putin's control.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-01, 12:42

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:"United States Pulls Out of Nuclear Arms Treaty With Russia"....Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600 Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. 502811600

Russia wants Trump to pull out of the INF arms treaty. Giphy

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I don't exactly know what's going on, but I know that Putin has confused things enough in our country to be happy about it.
European officials discussing the fallout in the coming months point to a possible increase in Russian cyber activities, including its influence campaigns, Russia is likely to use the US withdrawal as an excuse to deploy systems elsewhere and the certainty of finger-pointing, as Moscow works to assign blame.

"Russia will feel more legitimized to continue what it's doing now, but also increasing some of its efforts on missile technology and deploying them," said a European official.
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Post by Dr. Strangelove 2019-02-01, 15:50

So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.

Got it
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2019-02-01, 16:05

Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.

Got it

I'm more worried about a fucked up Trump deal that uses his fucked up playbook of acting tough, escalating the conflict needlessly, and ultimately killing us all. The dummies voted in the wrong dumbfuck.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-01, 16:33

Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.

Got it
No.

Russia owns the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator, has videos of him raping little girls and, therefore, he does whatever Putin wants him to do.

Which is exactly what he did.
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Post by Rocinante 2019-02-01, 17:07

Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.

Got it

How about, we stay in the treaty, and apply our massive economic advantage to beat them down, and force them to renegotiate the treaty to account for modern technologies, while simultaneously writing in provisions that exclude any activities related to China?

No wait. A better idea would be to just trash the whole thing (widely regarded as one of the best treaties of all time at dangerous arms reduction) so that Russia can start amassing short range missiles at the European border.

But hey, I'm sure this administration has a plan for what comes next. I mean they're known for their careful planning and flawless execution, right?
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Post by DWags 2019-02-01, 18:33

Rocinante wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:So the remain argument is Russia is cheating and we should remain and let them cheat because withdrawing will let them cheat more.

Got it

How about, we stay in the treaty, and apply our massive economic advantage to beat them down, and force them to renegotiate the treaty to account for modern technologies, while simultaneously writing in provisions that exclude any activities related to China?

No wait. A better idea would be to just trash the whole thing (widely regarded as one of the best treaties of all time at dangerous arms reduction) so that Russia can start amassing short range missiles at the European border.

But hey, I'm sure this administration has a plan for what comes next. I mean they're known for their careful planning and flawless execution, right?

So when Iran breaks the treaty we hit them with sanctions when Russia does we pullout so they don’t get hurt with any economic sanctions? Is that right?
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-02-02, 06:42

I'm sure there's a few European Banks that need to be punished for not loaning a con man money. I'm sorry. I meant Trump's strong bond with our European allies indicates he plans on putting missiles in Poland to protect them and deter Russia.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2019-02-02, 11:23

There are a lot of big money investors who will welcome a return to stable, guaranteed value stocks of companies contracting to the DoD.

Back to the good old days of arms races
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Post by kingstonlake 2019-02-02, 12:53

GRR Spartan wrote:There are a lot of big money investors who will welcome a return to stable, guaranteed value stocks of companies contracting to the DoD.

Back to the good old days of arms races

How will Mexico pay for it?

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-03, 07:31

Russia says it will build nuclear weapons previously banned under the disarmament treaty and no longer initiate talks with the United States

good thing we didn't elect the evil grandmother with the email account.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2019-02-03, 08:35

What happened to the dealmaker in cheif? Did he even try to talk to Russia about this?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-03, 11:18

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:What happened to the dealmaker in cheif? Did he even try to talk to Russia about this?

Yes.

They told him to withdraw.. and he did.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2019-02-03, 11:31

Lemme guess..

the mainstream media silly Sunday talk shows spent all morning expressing outrage at the racist VA governor and covering the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator's racist wall....

and NOT Russia's nuclear weapons proliferation?

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