LSU Discussion thread

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:21

LSU got some dudes. Their big man is a 5 star from New Jersey. Most of the rest of their starters are 4 stars. Need to do some more reading but I think we will have a significant coaching advantage, amplified even more by 5 days of prep. But we aren't going to out dude them.

by Clarett's Folly Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:23

Naz Reid seems like he could be a problem if we allow him to be. Kind of like Montrez Harrell back in the day. Their guard is automatic from the FT line.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:27

He was like 94% or something wasn't he?

That dude will definitely be a problem defensively. And the backup is huge, as well. Could be problematic for Nick if we try to feed him or Winston on his dribble drives. Going to need to hit some from the outside.

by Clarett's Folly Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:32

I feel like he took a lot of FTs and never missed. Not entirely sure what his percentage was.

by **kingstonlake** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:43

We're much better defensively. Their point guard seems quick off the dribble. Much like us they're prone to turnovers. We shoot the 3 better. They average five less assists per game. Play good D and I bet we can force them into hero ball or bad shots.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:51

I haven't watched a lick of LSU before Thursday and didn't really pay much attention then. So really my sample size is yesterday, but why I say that we will have a significant coaching advantage was they were brutal in the 2nd half. When Maryland mounted their run, for a good 10-15 minutes they just didn't run anything offensively. They had no plan whatsoever. Did not seem like they had any sets. They would run a high ball screen for their PG but that was it, no other movement. And then they interviewed the HC after the game and asked about the last play and he basically said he called for a screen. Oh. Ok.

We are guilty of running screen action and letting Cash create often but we have other movement. Our big man rolls, or we set a second screen. LSU didn't really do any of that.

by **steveschneider** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 10:56

And no matter what the outcome LSUs tourney wins are going to get vacated.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 11:06

I'm dumb, didn't even realize this HC was their interim. So yeah I'd say there is going to be a MASSIVE mismatch in that area.

by **Tim Wakefield** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 11:25

MSU -6/149

by **kingstonlake** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 11:37

I've never put faith in the SEC beyond Kentucky and the occasional Florida team. Seems like the conferences teams below them are all the same. Talent and athleticism with no plan B or adjustments beyond their scheme. If they can out athlete you or get involved with another team with the same MO they can look spectacular flying all over the place making highlight reel plays. But you get them involved in a game where they have to use basketball IQ they can look very average and undisciplined.

by Clarett's Folly Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 11:45

kingstonlake wrote:I've never put faith in the SEC beyond Kentucky and the occasional Florida team. Seems like the conferences teams below them are all the same. Talent and athleticism with no plan B or adjustments beyond their scheme. If they can out athlete you or get involved with another team with the same MO they can look spectacular flying all over the place making highlight reel plays. But you get them involved in a game where they have to use basketball IQ they can look very average and undisciplined.

This is SEC basketball and in a nutshell. Even Kentucky is just an amped up version of this.

by **Dendrobates** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 14:43

Forgive me if someone else pointed this out, but my mind is blown right now. This game is fate.

The last time MSU played LSU was another NCAA tourney where MSU was a #2 seed, LSU a #3 seed, in the sweet 16. In 1979!! Basketball

by **tGreenWay** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 15:26

No doubt in my mind I still have the ticket stub from that ‘79 game in Indy. Finding it might take years.

by **Dendrobates** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 18:13

tGreenWay wrote:No doubt in my mind I still have the ticket stub from that ‘79 game in Indy. Finding it might take years.

Very cool. You should find it and frame it.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:09

7:09pm est tip

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:12

Thanks OTPT.

by **kingstonlake** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:14

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:7:09pm est tip

Let's do it!

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:23

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Thanks OTPT.

You’re welcome, bro. LSU Discussion thread 969504605

by **pulling69** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:31

Send me money for better tickets than the Waffle Guy.

by **Nordic** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:35

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:7:09pm est tip

I like it

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:35

You're fucked with Duke and VT there pulling. I'm thinking $500 to get in the building for both games and $1k for lowers.

by **Tim Wakefield** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 22:42

Dead on, WBH. Hokie friends in DC are saying $500 for nosebleeds and $1k+ for good seats.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 23:00

$300 For nosebleeds on Stubhub.

by **pulling69** Sun 24 Mar 2019 - 23:45

It was $250+fees last night for Friday to get in for the worst seats in the building....We'll see what happens as the week goes on. Duke fans have been buying this up for over a week. Walk up tickets outside will be cheaper.

PS I am all in on Final 4 entry's for next year. Get me those tickets asap.

by **MiamiSpartan** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 6:35

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I'm dumb, didn't even realize this HC was their interim. So yeah I'd say there is going to be a MASSIVE mismatch in that area.

Well, Steve Fisher was interim coach when he took a completely legit* UM team to the NC.

*only "legit" since that year was outside the statute of limitations of the FBI investigation.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 8:23

tGreenWay wrote:No doubt in my mind I still have the ticket stub from that ‘79 game in Indy. Finding it might take years.

I still have my tickets from the 2000 midwest regionals. The Syracuse and Iowa State games. That Iowa State game was basically the real natty that year. What a game.

by **NigelUno** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 8:49

pulling69 wrote:Send me money for better tickets than the Waffle Guy.

Call Beekman.

You have his cell phone number.

by **steveschneider** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 9:03

I watched a bit of LSU vs Kentucky in that game that had the controversial finish. LSU looked loaded. Is this going to be the best talent we faced so far? Probably down to them or Kansas I’m guessing. Probably a good test for us before we go against Dukes superstar lineup.

by **kingstonlake** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 9:13

steveschneider wrote:I watched a bit of LSU vs Kentucky in that game that had the controversial finish. LSU looked loaded. Is this going to be the best talent we faced so far? Probably down to them or Kansas I’m guessing. Probably a good test for us before we go against Dukes superstar lineup.

By far...

by **DWags** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 9:17

Barkley described this game as a "Man's game". "Better buckle up for this one", both teams can bring it and are serious type game.

This shit isn't gong to be easy.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 9:29

DWags wrote:Barkley described this game as a "Man's game". "Better buckle up for this one", both teams can bring it and are serious type game.

This shit isn't gong to be easy.

Did he have any other cliches to toss in there? LSU Discussion thread 502811600

Not a dig at you wags, but damn that studio coverage has been poor.

by **NigelUno** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 9:37

steveschneider wrote:I watched a bit of LSU vs Kentucky in that game that had the controversial finish. LSU looked loaded. Is this going to be the best talent we faced so far? Probably down to them or Kansas I’m guessing. Probably a good test for us before we go against Dukes superstar lineup.

They have some Star Power.

Reid 6'10" 5 Star Ranked #18
Williams 6'7" 5 Star Ranked #26 (comes off bench)
Waters 5'11" 4 Star Ranked #44 (leading scorer)
$mart 6'4" 4 Star Ranked #35

Will be a good test. They're not a good team defensively though.

by **kingstonlake** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 9:57

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
DWags wrote:Barkley described this game as a "Man's game". "Better buckle up for this one", both teams can bring it and are serious type game.

This shit isn't gong to be easy.

Did he have any other cliches to toss in there? Not a dig at you wags, but damn that studio coverage has been poor.

Agree......We could use more stuff like this from a few days ago.....

Bill Walton just said "I stopped by the Statue of Liberty today, thinking about freedom, and the ability to go for it all."

Bill Walton is in Las Vegas.

Bill Walton stood outside the Statute of Liberty at the New York, New York Casino

by **steveschneider** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 10:04

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:I watched a bit of LSU vs Kentucky in that game that had the controversial finish. LSU looked loaded. Is this going to be the best talent we faced so far? Probably down to them or Kansas I’m guessing. Probably a good test for us before we go against Dukes superstar lineup.

They have some Star Power.

Reid 6'10" 5 Star Ranked #18
Williams 6'7" 5 Star Ranked #26 (comes off bench)
Waters 5'11" 4 Star Ranked #44 (leading scorer)
$mart 6'4" 4 Star Ranked #35

Will be a good test. They're not a good team defensively though.

L$U

Yeah, seems like the best talent money can buy but poorly coached.

by **NigelUno** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 10:24

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

They have some Star Power.

Reid 6'10" 5 Star Ranked #18
Williams 6'7" 5 Star Ranked #26 (comes off bench)
Waters 5'11" 4 Star Ranked #44 (leading scorer)
$mart 6'4" 4 Star Ranked #35

Will be a good test. They're not a good team defensively though.

L$U

Yeah, seems like the best talent money can buy but poorly coached.

They won the SEC. Not sure how poorly coached they were. Kentucky and Tennessee are pretty good teams.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 10:38

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

They have some Star Power.

Reid 6'10" 5 Star Ranked #18
Williams 6'7" 5 Star Ranked #26 (comes off bench)
Waters 5'11" 4 Star Ranked #44 (leading scorer)
$mart 6'4" 4 Star Ranked #35

Will be a good test. They're not a good team defensively though.

L$U

Yeah, seems like the best talent money can buy but poorly coached.

Where’s the poorly coached narrative being built? A few guys who post on a message board?

by **NigelUno** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 10:59

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

L$U

Yeah, seems like the best talent money can buy but poorly coached.

Where’s the poorly coached narrative being built? A few guys who post on a message board?

Do you think MSU is a well coached team?

by **steveschneider** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 11:45

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

L$U

Yeah, seems like the best talent money can buy but poorly coached.

Where’s the poorly coached narrative being built? A few guys who post on a message board?

They don't have their head coach so that is probably a disadvantage. Is some one on the bench qualified? Possibly, I haven't looked at them enough to really determine that. I trust WBH's take on it though.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 11:54

I wouldn't say LSU is poorly coached, but we definitely have the coaching advantage going into this game.

by **kingstonlake** Mon 25 Mar 2019 - 11:58

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

L$U

Yeah, seems like the best talent money can buy but poorly coached.

Where’s the poorly coached narrative being built? A few guys who post on a message board?

I'm gonna assume it's Benford's record as a head coach.

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