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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:17 pm

3>10

#3 Loyer 6’ 175 LBs
# 10 Hoiberg 5’11” 175 LBs

Loyer 1start
Hoiberg not in top ten rotation.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:34 pm

Izzo screwing Hoiberg out of PT.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:36 pm

Loyer with a 12 pack already.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:44 pm

15. He has a bakers dozen.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:49 pm

Loyer with 17 at half.

Hoiberg has 0.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:52 pm

DWags wrote:Izzo screwing Hoiberg out of PT.



Da fix iz in.
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Post by steveschneider Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:05 pm

If Loyer keeps this up dunk on me all you want. I’m happy he’s arrived!
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:12 pm

20 points.

I hope he doesn’t start doing blow like Skiles.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:00 pm

Final

Loyer 20
Hoiberg 2.
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Post by steveschneider Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:20 pm

This year should be Loyer vs Watts. He’s leveled up.
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Post by Rocinante Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:49 pm

15 is a bakers dozen?
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Post by Nordic Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:52 pm

Rocinante wrote:15 is a bakers dozen?

Forget it. He's rolling
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:16 pm

Rocinante wrote:15 is a bakers dozen?


Technically, DWags wasn’t wrong. At the time of the post, Loyer had a baker’s dozen, plus 2 points.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:18 pm

And why the hell are bakers always so damn generous? Who anointed them the Johnny Appleseed of the baked goods world?
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Post by duffy munn Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:23 pm

DWags wrote:20 points.

I hope he doesn’t start doing blow like Skiles.
It didn't hurt Skiles game
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:13 pm

Confidence is a helluva thing. Still has major limitations but so did Cash. The question is whether you can make up for those limitations. We'll see. It's been mentioned before but crazy thing about an all timer, hall of fame Coach. Kids seem to improve.
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Post by aualum06 Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:59 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Confidence is a helluva thing. Still has major limitations but so did Cash. The question is whether you can make up for those limitations. We'll see. It's been mentioned before but crazy thing about an all timer, hall of fame Coach. Kids seem to improve.

We will see how he does Saturday with Watts bang d up. Everyone said last year he would contribute when he played well against the cupcakes
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:34 am

Hit the open shots, don't be a liability on D. Foul if need be.

Not too difficult to figure out.
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Post by DWags Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:26 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Hit the open shots, don't be a liability on D. Foul if need be.

Not too difficult to figure out.

I fear he will still be a liability on defense. I never thought he’d be anything more than a four minute very good sub for a starting guard. If he’s starting, I’m not sure our back court is that strong. He had a great game against eastern. That’s helpful for sure.
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Post by steveschneider Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:58 pm

Watts looked great last night. He had one three pointer he hit where he created his own space off the dribble. I would love to see Loyer put up 17+ on Duke.
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Post by aualum06 Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:05 pm

steveschneider wrote:Watts looked great last night. He had one three pointer he hit where he created his own space off the dribble. I would love to see Loyer put up 17+ on Duke.

Loyer struggles to get his shot off against long teams.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:40 pm

Foster telling Steve, au and the rest of his haters to 🖕 off.

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Post by steveschneider Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:41 am

aualum06 wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Watts looked great last night. He had one three pointer he hit where he created his own space off the dribble. I would love to see Loyer put up 17+ on Duke.

Loyer struggles to get his shot off against long teams.

Yeah, EMU left him wide open and he punished them. It will be interesting to see who starts tonight and I’m hoping Rocket isn’t too dinged up.
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Post by duffy munn Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:51 am

steveschneider wrote:
aualum06 wrote:

Loyer struggles to get his shot off against long teams.

Yeah, EMU left him wide open and he punished them. It will be interesting to see who starts tonight and I’m hoping Rocket isn’t too dinged up.
I'm hearing Hoiberg will get the start.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:02 am

Loyer gonna get abused tonight on D.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:27 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Loyer gonna get abused tonight on D.
Did he actually get a shoe shaped bruise from his previous meeting with Duke?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:45 am

Every single team we play is going to come at him until he can prove he's not a liability - on both ends - and make them pay on Offense. That will dictate his minutes and if he can be a contributor or not. They will pressure him bringing the ball up and stay in his grill on Offense so he doesn't have any space to launch, and they will try to isolate him on D. It will be interesting to watch, he seems a lot more confident this year. He's going to get beaten occasionally on D. Needs to be able to shake it off, stay out of foul trouble and find a way to make them pay on the other end, whether it be hitting mid range jumpers, getting lost and finding open zones to shoot from, or finding teammates for easy buckets.
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Post by steveschneider Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:58 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Every single team we play is going to come at him until he can prove he's not a liability - on both ends - and make them pay on Offense. That will dictate his minutes and if he can be a contributor or not. They will pressure him bringing the ball up and stay in his grill on Offense so he doesn't have any space to launch, and they will try to isolate him on D. It will be interesting to watch, he seems a lot more confident this year. He's going to get beaten occasionally on D. Needs to be able to shake it off, stay out of foul trouble and find a way to make them pay on the other end, whether it be hitting mid range jumpers, getting lost and finding open zones to shoot from, or finding teammates for easy buckets.

It is a tall persons game.
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Post by DWags Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:10 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Every single team we play is going to come at him until he can prove he's not a liability - on both ends - and make them pay on Offense. That will dictate his minutes and if he can be a contributor or not. They will pressure him bringing the ball up and stay in his grill on Offense so he doesn't have any space to launch, and they will try to isolate him on D. It will be interesting to watch, he seems a lot more confident this year. He's going to get beaten occasionally on D. Needs to be able to shake it off, stay out of foul trouble and find a way to make them pay on the other end, whether it be hitting mid range jumpers, getting lost and finding open zones to shoot from, or finding teammates for easy buckets.

This is Izzo's fault. I just wonder why we can't throw a zone out there once in a while. Maybe run it for half of his minutes to help him out. Duke is not Eastern. also, he has not gotten any stronger since his freshman year in my opinion. Kid does not look like he gets into the weight room very much.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:18 am

Wags I honestly can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.
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Post by DWags Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:30 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Wags I honestly can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

The strength part isn't. He does not seem any stronger. But what can Izzo do to better help him when we're on Defense? My daughter said the other night, wouldn't it be great if it was like football and we could take him out on defense. That was after he was posted up.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:38 am

I wish loyer all the best! Beat duke!
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:44 am

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Wags I honestly can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

The strength part isn't. He does not seem any stronger. But what can Izzo do to better help him when we're on Defense? My daughter said the other night, wouldn't it be great if it was like football and we could take him out on defense. That was after he was posted up.

He is definitely stronger. I'm not trying to judge on 19 year old kids' bodies but have you seen the weight room pics the team posted? He was pretty much a twig in HS and freshman year, maybe 165. Guessing he's 185 or so now.
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Post by duffy munn Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:59 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
DWags wrote:

The strength part isn't. He does not seem any stronger. But what can Izzo do to better help him when we're on Defense? My daughter said the other night, wouldn't it be great if it was like football and we could take him out on defense. That was after he was posted up.

He is definitely stronger. I'm not trying to judge on 19 year old kids' bodies but have you seen the weight room pics the team posted? He was pretty much a twig in HS and freshman year, maybe 165. Guessing he's 185 or so now.
Yep. He has bulked up for sure.
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Post by steveschneider Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:08 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I wish loyer all the best! Beat duke!

Exactly this, when he's hitting those threes everyone fires up.
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