2021/2022 MSU Hoops Thread

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:24 pm

I don't think we have one yet?

Wojcik elevated to take Dane's spot.

Kither in portal

by **Nordic** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:11 pm

Where are with schollies? I saw Nigel say we still needed one more to leave in the Henry thread/pre-Kithier. We even now?

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:13 pm

We have one open right now, presumably for a transfer unless they think Bates is reclassifying and coming.

by **Nordic** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:16 pm

Check my work:

Incoming: 3 freshies + 1 transfer = 4
Leaving: Langford, Hoiberg, Watts, Henry, Katherine = 5

Leaving 1 open schollie 2021/2022 MSU Hoops Thread 2599972566

by **Cameron** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:18 pm

Is this the finally the year we will have a PG who can take OTPT in one-on-one?

by **kingstonlake** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:18 pm

Nordic wrote:Where are with schollies? I saw Nigel say we still needed one more to leave in the Henry thread/pre-Kithier. We even now?

Nigel isn’t allowed to comment on recruiting again. Ever. His rules. Not mine. Razz

by **Nordic** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:19 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:We have one open right now, presumably for a transfer unless they think Bates is reclassifying and coming.

NigelUno wrote:Need one more spot to open up.

That is what I thought. Nigel's post confused me, but I assumed I was misremembering.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Cameron wrote:Is this the finally the year we will have a PG who can take OTPT in one-on-one?

I yield!

by **NigelUno** Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:35 pm

Nordic wrote:Where are with schollies? I saw Nigel say we still needed one more to leave in the Henry thread/pre-Kithier. We even now?

Even before.

Needed one to leave for Emoni.

by **GRR Spartan** Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:43 pm

Wojcik wasn’t a surprise. Only surprise was who left to create the assistant coach vacancy. Thought Garland would retire rather than Fife going back to IU for an assistant job.

Kithier got his degree and played hard but it’s a brave new portal world. A few years earlier he may have gotten a redshirt.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:37 pm

12-16

by **InTenSity** Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:28 pm

Fife has been replaced?

by **tGreenWay** Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:41 pm

InTenSity wrote:Fife has been replaced?

Can anybody really replace the pride of Clarkston, MI?

by **NigelUno** Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:39 pm

InTenSity wrote:Fife has been replaced?

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by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:03 pm

Come on down, Emoni!

by **DWags** Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:59 pm

WBH give me best guess about Bates.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:32 pm

DWags wrote:WBH give me best guess about Bates.

He goes to Duke. Or maybe DePaul.

by **tGreenWay** Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:37 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:WBH give me best guess about Bates.

He goes to Duke. Or maybe DePaul.

Spartans or bust, damnit.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:46 pm

DWags wrote:WBH give me best guess about Bates.

I don't think he's coming here. I don't know of a better option because the NBA isn't changing the G League early entry rule. But I think they will decide to do something else. I know Travis will but I'm not going to lose much sleep over it either way. It's a fun little drama to follow.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:11 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
DWags wrote:WBH give me best guess about Bates.

I don't think he's coming here. I don't know of a better option because the NBA isn't changing the G League early entry rule. But I think they will decide to do something else. I know Travis will but I'm not going to lose much sleep over it either way. It's a fun little drama to follow.

So Europe?

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:22 am

Hell if I know. Overseas doesn't seem to be an option per things that Emoni and his dad have said in the past.

A year to train at IMG? Dad and an associate try to start a semi pro team? I don't know.

by **NigelUno** Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:34 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Hell if I know. Overseas doesn't seem to be an option per things that Emoni and his dad have said in the past.

A year to train at IMG? Dad and an associate try to start a semi pro team? I don't know.

IF the plan was to reclassify all along, I don't know why he wouldn't come to MSU.

by **DWags** Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 am

NigelUno wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Hell if I know. Overseas doesn't seem to be an option per things that Emoni and his dad have said in the past.

A year to train at IMG? Dad and an associate try to start a semi pro team? I don't know.

IF the plan was to reclassify all along, I don't know why he wouldn't come to MSU.

Because Kentucky and Kansas can pay the bills of the family for a year until the nba? Maybe DePaul

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:48 am

I agree Nigel. Trying to be objective, from everything we know and they have said, going to MSU for at least a year is the most logical choice. But they are not making it, publicly (or privately from what I understand). And that just doesn't seem to make any sense to me. I'm on the 'it seems like they're looking for another option' believe train at this moment.

Wags anything can happen, and again I don't know my ass from my elbow, but as of today, based on everything that is known about this situation, I'd put the odds of him ending up at another school at roughly 2%. I just don't think that's happening. I think if he goes to college you can bet your ass it will be in East Lansing. (then again I went 0-3 last night on Fan Duel NBA betting)

by **NigelUno** Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:59 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I agree Nigel. Trying to be objective, from everything we know and they have said, going to MSU for at least a year is the most logical choice. But they are not making it, publicly (or privately from what I understand). And that just doesn't seem to make any sense to me. I'm on the 'it seems like they're looking for another option' believe train at this moment.

Wags anything can happen, and again I don't know my ass from my elbow, but as of today, based on everything that is known about this situation, I'd put the odds of him ending up at another school at roughly 2%. I just don't think that's happening. I think if he goes to college you can bet your ass it will be in East Lansing. (then again I went 0-3 last night on Fan Duel NBA betting)

Maybe Emoni didn't want to reclassify until a spot opened up. 2021/2022 MSU Hoops Thread 2599972566

And/or he wanted to see how the roster shook out.

by **Turtleneck** Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:01 am

tGreenWay wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

He goes to Duke. Or maybe DePaul.

Spartans or bust, damnit.

San Jose State is not in the mix.

by **NigelUno** Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:04 am

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

IF the plan was to reclassify all along, I don't know why he wouldn't come to MSU.

Because Kentucky and Kansas can pay the bills of the family for a year until the nba? Maybe DePaul

I don't think finances are a consideration. Or one that would impact the choice of a college.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:13 am

NigelUno wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I agree Nigel. Trying to be objective, from everything we know and they have said, going to MSU for at least a year is the most logical choice. But they are not making it, publicly (or privately from what I understand). And that just doesn't seem to make any sense to me. I'm on the 'it seems like they're looking for another option' believe train at this moment.

Wags anything can happen, and again I don't know my ass from my elbow, but as of today, based on everything that is known about this situation, I'd put the odds of him ending up at another school at roughly 2%. I just don't think that's happening. I think if he goes to college you can bet your ass it will be in East Lansing. (then again I went 0-3 last night on Fan Duel NBA betting)

Maybe Emoni didn't want to reclassify until a spot opened up.

And/or he wanted to see how the roster shook out.

Possible. I just don't see another year at "Ypsi Prep" being in the cards after how this past season played out. I think the reclass seems like a sure thing. Again this is just my super amateur sleuth read on the situation. Basically a wild ass guess.

by **NigelUno** Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:49 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Maybe Emoni didn't want to reclassify until a spot opened up.

And/or he wanted to see how the roster shook out.

Possible. I just don't see another year at "Ypsi Prep" being in the cards after how this past season played out. I think the reclass seems like a sure thing. Again this is just my super amateur sleuth read on the situation. Basically a wild ass guess.

My guess is that nothing has really changed. Reclassify and hope the NBA age rule gets changed so he can go pro after 1 year.

The roster is set up for him.

If we show serious interest in some transfers (and take another one), I think that will be a sign.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:23 am

Yeah but the rule isn't changing, that's why the lack of movement is intriguing. Silver has said it. There is no appetite to employ minors at this time, and any rule changes would be part of the collective bargaining discussions when the current CBA expires. They have to know this right?

We shall see, it's going to be interesting.

by **tGreenWay** Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:32 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Spartans or bust, damnit.

San Jose State is not in the mix.

And isn’t the collegiate sports world the worse for it?

by **Floyd Robertson** Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:27 pm

I don't know what a PostGrad basketball team does, but Tum Tum won't be on the Spartan's staff next year because he'll be coaching one at his HS alma mater.

Tum Tum Nairn leaving Michigan State basketball to coach Sunrise Christian's PostGrad basketball team

by **Turtleneck** Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:59 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:I don't know what a PostGrad basketball team does, but Tum Tum won't be on the Spartan's staff next year because he'll be coaching one at his HS alma mater.

Tum Tum Nairn leaving Michigan State basketball to coach Sunrise Christian's PostGrad basketball team

Great. Now MSU has to find a new coach to teach shooting mechanics.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:26 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:I don't know what a PostGrad basketball team does, but Tum Tum won't be on the Spartan's staff next year because he'll be coaching one at his HS alma mater.

Tum Tum Nairn leaving Michigan State basketball to coach Sunrise Christian's PostGrad basketball team

Great. Now MSU has to find a new coach to teach shooting mechanics.

by **kingstonlake** Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:43 pm

Got tired of OTPT running up the score.

by **tGreenWay** Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:56 pm

Who is left to preach the Bible now? Somebody needs to quote scripture every few sentences.

by **Motown Spartan** Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:56 pm

tGreenWay wrote:Who is left to preach the Bible now? Somebody needs to quote scripture every few sentences.

Bobby Sak will do it!

by **tGreenWay** Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:58 pm

Motown Spartan wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Who is left to preach the Bible now? Somebody needs to quote scripture every few sentences.

Bobby Sak will do it!

He can throw out a few Amens! as he rides by on his bike.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:07 pm

This is probably really good for MSU basketball.

Sunrise Christian alums - Tum, Marvin Clark, Buddy Hield, Matt Haarms, N'faly Dante, Malik Hall, Jaden Akins, Jordan Taylor (Baylor)

by **DWags** Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:16 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:This is probably really good for MSU basketball.

Sunrise Christian alums - Tum, Marvin Clark, Buddy Hield, Matt Haarms, N'faly Dante, Malik Hall, Jaden Akins, Jordan Taylor (Baylor)

I was wondering about that. Cant hurt.

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