Is there a better year for debut albums than 1978?

by **kingstonlake** 2021-09-14, 14:12

The Police
Van Halen
Squeeze
The Cars
Siouxsie and the Banshees
XTC
Devo
Molly Hatchet
Toto
Public Image Ltd
Dire Straits
The Clash
Nick Lowe
Buzzcocks

by **Floyd Robertson** 2021-09-14, 14:24

So this Clash thing...I think their debut album was released in the U.K. in 1977, but not in the U.S. until 1979 after "Given 'em Enough Rope" was already released in 1978.

But whatever, that's an impressive list.

I have always thought the best era for new music was 1977-1981, but it has a lot to do with my age.

by **DWags** 2021-09-14, 14:40

Foreigner, at the time was pretty good. I seem to remember that around 78.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2021-09-14, 15:11

DWags wrote:Foreigner, at the time was pretty good. I seem to remember that around 78.

early Foreigner was very solid.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2021-09-14, 15:13

maybe it's my age talking, but the greatest time period of "album rock" was pretty much '75-'80. Pretty amazing the genuine 'classics' released over that five year span.

by AvgMSUJoe 2021-09-14, 15:18

The Cure and U2 were like 79ish....

by Pervis Muldoon 2021-09-14, 15:29

I've heard of Molly Hatchet. Not sure who the other ones are.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-09-14, 15:36

DWags wrote:Foreigner, at the time was pretty good. I seem to remember that around 78.

I wanna say 76’?

by **tGreenWay** 2021-09-14, 15:50

Pervis Muldoon wrote:I've heard of Molly Hatchet. Not sure who the other ones are.

You’re such a puppy.

by **tGreenWay** 2021-09-14, 15:55

Kingston, you may have finally struck gold. This is a good, strong list. For shits and giggles, Supertramp’s debut in the States was late ‘77, so I’m counting it as ‘78, too, even though the album had been out for nearly a decade in the UK.

by **NigelUno** 2021-09-14, 18:26

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:Foreigner, at the time was pretty good. I seem to remember that around 78.
early Foreigner was very solid.

It feels like the first time Foreigner released an album was in '77.

by **DWags** 2021-09-14, 19:34

NigelUno wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: early Foreigner was very solid.

It feels like the first time Foreigner released an album was in '77.

Was that the very first time?

by Pervis Muldoon 2021-09-14, 20:51

tGreenWay wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:I've heard of Molly Hatchet. Not sure who the other ones are.

You’re such a puppy.

I was kidding. I just thought it was funny that Molly Hatchet was on the list.

by **DWags** 2021-09-14, 21:02

Debut albums indeed, but I’d take 1972 and 1967 as the best years for albums. Debut or otherwise.

by **steveschneider** 2021-09-14, 22:25

Put me down for 1915. That’s when the best college anthem ‘MSU Fight Song’ was written.

by **Turtleneck** 2021-09-15, 00:53

DWags wrote:Debut albums indeed, but I’d take 1972 and 1967 as the best years for albums. Debut or otherwise.

Is there a better year for debut albums than 1978? 200.gif?cid=ddb306a53a2pso3m8x667gbyqdwzfvfontfxyb9qxld69fs8&rid=200

That would be 1991, DWags. Some real great stuff hit that year. Pretty solid diversity of sound, too.

Nirvana, Nevermind
Smashing Pumpkins, Gish (debut)
Pear Jam, Ten (debut)
Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger
Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91. The Enemy Strikes Black
RHCP, Blood Sugar Sec Magik
Metallica, Black Album
A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Into the Great Wide Open
Temple of the Dog, Temple of the Dog
REM, Out of Time
2Pac, 2Pacalypse Now (debut)
U2, Achtung Baby

Melvins, Bullhead
Ice T, OG Original Gangster
Type O Negative, Slow, Deep, and Hard
Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill (debut)
The Orb, The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
Dinosaur, Jr, Green Mind
Massive Attack, Blue Lines (debut)
Primus, Sailing the Seas of Cheese
GnR, Use Your Illusion I and II
My Bloody Valentine, Loveless

by **tGreenWay** 2021-09-15, 03:17

Pervis Muldoon wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

You’re such a puppy.

I was kidding. I just thought it was funny that Molly Hatchet was on the list.

Molly was a babe.

by **steveschneider** 2021-09-15, 08:17

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:Debut albums indeed, but I’d take 1972 and 1967 as the best years for albums. Debut or otherwise.

That would be 1991, DWags. Some real great stuff hit that year. Pretty solid diversity of sound, too.

Nirvana, Nevermind
Smashing Pumpkins, Gish (debut)
Pear Jam, Ten (debut)
Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger
Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91. The Enemy Strikes Black
RHCP, Blood Sugar Sec Magik
Metallica, Black Album
A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Into the Great Wide Open
Temple of the Dog, Temple of the Dog
REM, Out of Time
2Pac, 2Pacalypse Now (debut)
U2, Achtung Baby

Melvins, Bullhead
Ice T, OG Original Gangster
Type O Negative, Slow, Deep, and Hard
Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill (debut)
The Orb, The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
Dinosaur, Jr, Green Mind
Massive Attack, Blue Lines (debut)
Primus, Sailing the Seas of Cheese
GnR, Use Your Illusion I and II
My Bloody Valentine, Loveless

Primus Sailing the Seas of Cheese. There’s one I haven’t thought of in a while. I always felt like that was a band everyone just tolerated and there was this weird peer pressure to go along with the herd and say they were cool. I always thought the music sounded like a terrible acid trip.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-09-15, 08:43

steveschneider wrote:
Primus Sailing the Seas of Cheese. There’s one I haven’t thought of in a while. I always felt like that was a band everyone just tolerated and there was this weird peer pressure to go along with the herd and say they were cool. I always thought the music sounded like a terrible acid trip.

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by **steveschneider** 2021-09-15, 09:15

kingstonlake wrote:
steveschneider wrote:
Primus Sailing the Seas of Cheese. There’s one I haven’t thought of in a while. I always felt like that was a band everyone just tolerated and there was this weird peer pressure to go along with the herd and say they were cool. I always thought the music sounded like a terrible acid trip.

Just pulled up the album on Youtube and made it through about :40 seconds or so and it confirmed that my memory was right. 'When the stomach acids flow' Is there a better year for debut albums than 1978? 1401550746

Is there a better year for debut albums than 1978? 1401550746

by **steveschneider** 2021-09-15, 09:20

kingstonlake wrote:The Police
Van Halen
Squeeze
The Cars
Siouxsie and the Banshees
XTC
Devo
Molly Hatchet
Toto
Public Image Ltd
Dire Straits
The Clash
Nick Lowe
Buzzcocks

That Van Halen debut album is a stunner. All killer and no filler. Perfect from start to finish.

by **DWags** 2021-09-15, 10:00

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:Debut albums indeed, but I’d take 1972 and 1967 as the best years for albums. Debut or otherwise.

That would be 1991, DWags. Some real great stuff hit that year. Pretty solid diversity of sound, too.

Nirvana, Nevermind
Smashing Pumpkins, Gish (debut)
Pear Jam, Ten (debut)
Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger
Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91. The Enemy Strikes Black
RHCP, Blood Sugar Sec Magik
Metallica, Black Album
A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Into the Great Wide Open
Temple of the Dog, Temple of the Dog
REM, Out of Time
2Pac, 2Pacalypse Now (debut)
U2, Achtung Baby

Melvins, Bullhead
Ice T, OG Original Gangster
Type O Negative, Slow, Deep, and Hard
Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill (debut)
The Orb, The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
Dinosaur, Jr, Green Mind
Massive Attack, Blue Lines (debut)
Primus, Sailing the Seas of Cheese
GnR, Use Your Illusion I and II
My Bloody Valentine, Loveless

Wow, that’s a real great list. It’s not that I don’t like that music, I guess I just have a bit of a different taste in music. I’m still sticking with 67 and 72

by **Turtleneck** 2021-09-15, 10:39

Yeah, I was just giving you a hard time. Go with what you like. Not something to actually for real argue about...but Steve definitely needs to modernize his musical interests.

by **tGreenWay** 2021-09-15, 10:59

While they didn’t put out their first album until a couple of years later, it was 1978 when The Beat was born. RIP, Ranking Roger.
And now, back to the Countdown…

by **InTenSity** 2021-09-15, 11:29

91 works for me. I thought Pretty Hate Machine had come out in the 90's but apparently that was 89. Close enough though.

by **steveschneider** 2021-09-15, 12:32

Turtleneck wrote:Yeah, I was just giving you a hard time. Go with what you like. Not something to actually for real argue about...but Steve definitely needs to modernize his musical interests.

I know it probably feels just like yesterday but fyi 1991 was thirty years ago.

by SawGreen 2021-09-15, 13:13

kingstonlake wrote:The Police
Van Halen
Squeeze
The Cars
Siouxsie and the Banshees
XTC
Devo
Molly Hatchet
Toto
Public Image Ltd
Dire Straits
The Clash
Nick Lowe
Buzzcocks

I appreciate this. Maybe I will spend some time with it. Notably absent are bands/artists like The Who, Queen, Bob Dylan, Lynyrd, the Stones, Deep Purple, Eric Clapton, The Kinks, etc.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2021-09-15, 13:20

SawGreen wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:The Police
Van Halen
Squeeze
The Cars
Siouxsie and the Banshees
XTC
Devo
Molly Hatchet
Toto
Public Image Ltd
Dire Straits
The Clash
Nick Lowe
Buzzcocks

I appreciate this. Maybe I will spend some time with it. Notably absent are bands/artists like The Who, Queen, Bob Dylan, Lynyrd, the Stones, Deep Purple, Eric Clapton, The Kinks, etc.

Because they debuted long before 1978. Wink

by **Turtleneck** 2021-09-15, 13:48

steveschneider wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Yeah, I was just giving you a hard time. Go with what you like. Not something to actually for real argue about...but Steve definitely needs to modernize his musical interests.

I know it probably feels just like yesterday but fyi 1991 was thirty years ago.

This means it's really bad that you're still stuck on the Eagles. Primus was great. Rocked Woodstock '94.

by **steveschneider** 2021-09-15, 14:51

Turtleneck wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

I know it probably feels just like yesterday but fyi 1991 was thirty years ago.

This means it's really bad that you're still stuck on the Eagles. Primus was great. Rocked Woodstock '94.

It doesn't mean that at all and this is just you talking out of your ass about me. Just want to make sure you know that.

by **Turtleneck** 2021-09-15, 15:07

Steve, I liked your "1991 was thirty years ago" post because it was funny. Nobody is attacking you, just goofing around like you. Ok, sorry I distracted you from Hotel California.

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-09-15, 15:34

1969

Neil Young
MC5
The Stooges
Joe Cocker
Crosby, Stills, & Nash
Blind Faith
Humble Pie
Elton John
Roberta Flack
Santana
Janis Joplin
Rod Stewart
The Allman Brothers
Mott the Hoople
Kool & the Gang
Jackson 5

by **Turtleneck** 2021-09-15, 15:38

Motown Spartan wrote:1969

Neil Young
MC5
The Stooges
Joe Cocker
Crosby, Stills, & Nash
Blind Faith
Humble Pie
Elton John
Roberta Flack
Santana
Janis Joplin
Rod Stewart
The Allman Brothers
Mott the Hoople
Kool & the Gang
Jackson 5

Kick Out the Jams.

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-09-15, 15:42

Turtleneck wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:1969

Neil Young
MC5
The Stooges
Joe Cocker
Crosby, Stills, & Nash
Blind Faith
Humble Pie
Elton John
Roberta Flack
Santana
Janis Joplin
Rod Stewart
The Allman Brothers
Mott the Hoople
Kool & the Gang
Jackson 5

Kick Out the Jams.

Recorded live at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit, Michigan!

by **kingstonlake** 2021-09-15, 15:42

If we’re including solo projects from people in established bands then add David Gilmour.

Damn Motown always complicating things.

by **steveschneider** 2021-09-15, 15:49

Turtleneck wrote:Steve, I liked your "1991 was thirty years ago" post because it was funny. Nobody is attacking you, just goofing around like you. Ok, sorry I distracted you from Hotel California.

All good.

Is there a better year for debut albums than 1978? 969504605

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-09-15, 15:50

kingstonlake wrote:If we’re including solo projects from people in established bands then add David Gilmour.

Damn Motown always complicating things.

Ace Frehley released a debut solo album in 78 too. As did Gene Simmons.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2021-09-15, 15:56

Motown Spartan wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:If we’re including solo projects from people in established bands then add David Gilmour.

Damn Motown always complicating things.

Ace Frehley released a debut solo album in 78 too. As did Gene Simmons.

Ace, Gene, Paul and Peter's solo records all came out in '78.. on the same day.

by **Motown Spartan** 2021-09-15, 16:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

Ace Frehley released a debut solo album in 78 too. As did Gene Simmons.
Ace, Gene, Paul and Peter's solo records all came out in '78.. on the same day.

Did not know that. Thanks for the info.

by **kingstonlake** 2021-09-15, 16:04

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:

Ace Frehley released a debut solo album in 78 too. As did Gene Simmons.
Ace, Gene, Paul and Peter's solo records all came out in '78.. on the same day.

Back in the New York groove….

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