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Post by NigelUno Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:39 pm

That didn't take long.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-11-17-22/h_d2025cea3fa6bd2fb2f295211148a750
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Post by GRR Spartan Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:29 pm

She's a domestic terrorist.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:13 am

When did the Republican Party officially stop supporting the national interests of the United States?
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Post by NigelUno Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:36 am

Every day the House is in session, the Dems should present MTG with one of these...

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Every single day.
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Post by Motown Spartan Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:39 am

Funny that she thinks she’s holding all the cards now. That’s not how it works batshitcrazylady.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:43 am

Motown Spartan wrote:Funny that she thinks she’s holding all the cards now. That’s not how it works batshitcrazylady.

I'm hoping there are enough sane people in that bat shit crazy party to stop the United States from totally imploding.

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Post by InTenSity Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:00 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:Funny that she thinks she’s holding all the cards now. That’s not how it works batshitcrazylady.

I'm hoping there are enough sane people in that bat shit crazy party to stop the United States from totally imploding.

Couldn't about 5 R's split from the party and make a deal with D's to allow the D's to elect a speaker? The far right Maga crew is feeling emboldened because McCarthy needs their votes in order to become speaker and he only cares about the power.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:13 am

InTenSity wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I'm hoping there are enough sane people in that bat shit crazy party to stop the United States from totally imploding.

Couldn't about 5 R's split from the party and make a deal with D's to allow the D's to elect a speaker? The far right Maga crew is feeling emboldened because McCarthy needs their votes in order to become speaker and he only cares about the power.

One Republican has said he will work with the Democratic members if McCarthy is not made Speaker, however, until we know the split between the Parties in the HOR, and until the Republicans cannot elect a Speaker the question is mote.
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Post by NigelUno Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:32 am

InTenSity wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I'm hoping there are enough sane people in that bat shit crazy party to stop the United States from totally imploding.

Couldn't about 5 R's split from the party and make a deal with D's to allow the D's to elect a speaker? The far right Maga crew is feeling emboldened because McCarthy needs their votes in order to become speaker and he only cares about the power.

I think that would be political suicide.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:41 am

NigelUno wrote:
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Couldn't about 5 R's split from the party and make a deal with D's to allow the D's to elect a speaker? The far right Maga crew is feeling emboldened because McCarthy needs their votes in order to become speaker and he only cares about the power.

I think that would be political suicide.

I think you are right.

However, if only one vote was needed then that suicide would be tempered by being Speaker of the HOR for two years.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:56 am

so 'America First" Republicans are anti-democratic Russian assets?

I never noticed.

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Post by steveschneider Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:03 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so 'America First" Republicans are anti-democratic Russian assets?

I never noticed.


The GOP is pro Russia and the far left is anti supporting Ukraine which makes them de facto Russian supporters. Center left continues to provide the best leadership in our turbulent times.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:26 pm

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:so 'America First" Republicans are anti-democratic Russian assets?

I never noticed.


The GOP is pro Russia and the far left is anti supporting Ukraine which makes them de facto Russian supporters. Center left continues to provide the best leadership in our turbulent times.

There is a tiny group called "the tankies" who blame all the problems in the world on the US. It is debatable that they are far left or just anti-US. Other than the letter asking President Biden to consider a negotiated Ukraine solutuon signed by a number of Congressional Progressives in June which was published and disavowed in September, I'm haven't heard of anything which could be labeled, as indeed ever this letter cannot, anti-Ukraine on the left.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:27 pm

It's hilarious, I mean in a maddening way of course, that republicans in the house plan to go full tilt into Biden "crime family" investigations but had no qualms about the most corrupt presidential family in history, Biden's predecessor.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:51 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:It's hilarious, I mean in a maddening way of course, that republicans in the house plan to go full tilt into Biden "crime family" investigations but had no qualms about the most corrupt presidential family in history, Biden's predecessor.
Team sports to them.

Zero integrity.

PLUS, that has been their playbook since Whitewater.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:12 pm

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Floyd Robertson wrote:It's hilarious, I mean in a maddening way of course, that republicans in the house plan to go full tilt into Biden "crime family" investigations but had no qualms about the most corrupt presidential family in history, Biden's predecessor.
Team sports to them.

Zero integrity.

PLUS, that has been their playbook since Whitewater.

They are still upset about Nixon resigning
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:51 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
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Team sports to them.

Zero integrity.

PLUS, that has been their playbook since Whitewater.

They are still upset about Nixon resigning
Some tool learned from the Iran Contra deal that they can just tie everything up/ suck all the air out of the room indefinitely with these "investigations"....

The only amazing thing was they weren't able to attempt to pin anything on Obama (hence the Brown suit/ lapel pin "controversies").
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:05 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

They are still upset about Nixon resigning
Some tool learned from the Iran Contra deal that they can just tie everything up/ suck all the air out of the room indefinitely with these "investigations"....

The only amazing thing was they weren't able to attempt to pin anything on Obama (hence the Brown suit/ lapel pin "controversies").

Hey Joe, get your picks in!
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Post by GRR Spartan Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:59 pm

Today the GOP caucus met with Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse who spoke of his political aspirations.

He’s from Illinois. Just like Lincoln.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:38 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:It's hilarious, I mean in a maddening way of course, that republicans in the house plan to go full tilt into Biden "crime family" investigations but had no qualms about the most corrupt presidential family in history, Biden's predecessor.

One thing I don’t disagree with is that I think the president, whom in the last 50 or so years we’ve given way too much unilateral power and started treating like a king, should be under near constant and intense legislative investigation. Of course, they’re only doing that kind of thing in their own weird, twisted, messed up, trying to score political points way so it’s not really what I’m talking about. But I do think that a democratic house should be investigating biden too, and a Republican house should have been investigating trump. Constant investigations of the executive without thinking of party should just be a part of the job.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:21 am

While I understand the sentiment, we've learned under trump that these things are useless and are strictly political (at least to the rs which have zero integrity) so until we get dems to have an opposition party looking out for the public's interests, what's the point?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:31 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:While I understand the sentiment, we've learned under trump that these things are useless and are strictly political (at least to the rs which have zero integrity) so until we get dems to have an opposition party looking out for the public's interests, what's the point?

I guess I mean that more theoretically than practically in our modern times where one party is consumed with being afraid of monsters hiding under their bed
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:48 am

The House & Senate have oversight of all of the executive departments and constantly have hearings (investigation) into their operations and actions. In addition the Congress set up the Inspector General system in each department so that there is an internal system of investigation which reports to the Congress & there are whistleblower laws whereas if a worket bee inn the executive sees something they think is not legal it can be reported, to the respective IG, I think, who is required to notify the office of the chairman of the committees in Congress which have oversight of that part of the executive.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:04 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:The House & Senate have oversight of all of the executive departments and constantly have hearings (investigation) into their operations and actions. In addition the Congress set up the Inspector General system in each department so that there is an internal system of investigation which reports to the Congress & there are whistleblower laws whereas if a worket bee inn the executive sees something they think is not legal it can be reported, to the respective IG, I think, who is required to notify the office of the chairman of the committees in Congress which have oversight of that part of the executive.

Indeed.

It’s working great.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:25 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:The House & Senate have oversight of all of the executive departments and constantly have hearings (investigation) into their operations and actions. In addition the Congress set up the Inspector General system in each department so that there is an internal system of investigation which reports to the Congress & there are whistleblower laws whereas if a worket bee inn the executive sees something they think is not legal it can be reported, to the respective IG, I think, who is required to notify the office of the chairman of the committees in Congress which have oversight of that part of the executive.

Indeed.

It’s working great.

Congress does a bunch of stuff most people don't hear about. There were over 200 bipartisan Bills passed and signed by Biden. Now much of this is routine, but since the news doesn't report on it we all think nothing is happening.

The MSM just doesn't report it.
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On Friday, writing for his blog, liberal filmmaker Michael Moore — one of the few analysts to predict Republicans would not have a blowout win in the 2022 midterm elections — forecast that the GOP is "imploding" — and that their new, razor-thin majority in the House is a "consolation prize" for losing the bigger fight for America.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:55 pm

So, from what I read of this, MTG only supported McCarthy if he kicked Schiff off judiciary because she got kicked off for supporting 1/6... How can he kick a dem off without dem support?

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AvgMSUJoe wrote:So, from what I read of this, MTG only supported McCarthy if he kicked Schiff off judiciary because she got kicked off for supporting 1/6... How can he kick a dem off without dem support?

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This next session of congress is going to be nothing but a revenge tour.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 am

Jake from State Farm wrote:
This next session of congress is going to be nothing but a revenge tour.

Won't every R in the house have to be as petty and shitty as MTG for the Rs to have the votes on this?
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AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:
This next session of congress is going to be nothing but a revenge tour.

Won't every R in the house have to be as petty and shitty as MTG for the Rs to have the votes on this?

One would like to think that members of Congress vote for what they believe is right, but for the most part, if one thinks that one is wrong.

Mostly they vote with their party when the "Leader's" ask for it.  So no, if the Republican Leadership asks for votes to deny Democratic members committee assignments the Republican members will vote for that.

edit - btw, the above is why anyone who loves this country must never vote for a Republican at any level.
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tWSJ wrote:“In many ways, we’re all-in, and we’re all-in because the realization has dawned in Europe that showing weakness to President Putin, showing no response to his atrocities, only invites him to go further and further,” said Sjoerd Sjoerdsma, a Dutch politician and member of parliament. “We have also realized that it is not only the safety and security of Ukraine that is at stake but also our own.”

It is beginning to dawn on politicians that it is time to get on the correct side of this issue, well most politicians.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:16 pm

a Democrat rep today submitted an amendment to a bill naming MTG "Vladimir Putin's Special Envoy to the United States Congress".

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Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.) trolled Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) with a pair of amendments that highlight the Georgia Republican’s frequent embrace of pro-Russia misinformation and her opposition to foreign aid.

The first amendment calls for Greene to be appointed “Vladimir Putin’s Special Envoy to the United States Congress.”

I mean, if the republican/libertarians are gonna do the bidding on behalf of the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist, they should at least accept the title.

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