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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-17, 08:30

Thought maybe we could have a thread with commentary only and no linking.  Often linking can be an annoyance to the subject being discussed. And frankly anyone can find a link that supports their views on an issue. State your cases or make your comments if you like!
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-17, 08:32

I’m tired of boomer types getting behind “causes” without understanding who is backing and funding these “grassroots “ efforts.  “Citizens for local choice” being one of them.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-17, 08:34

Linking is a double-edged issue.

When I post and don't provide links some other posters complain.

I fine with telling you all that Joe Biden is the best President in my lifetime since Eisenhower without a link, however.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-17, 08:37

kingstonlake wrote:I’m tired of boomer types getting behind “causes” without understanding who is backing and funding these “grassroots “ efforts.  “Citizens for local choice” being one of them.

Being aware of the "astro-turfing" that Conservative Billionaires have been doing since at least the "Tea Party" is sort of the base for being an informed voter.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-03-17, 10:46

I've got a problems, now, you're gonna hear about it
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Post by Pervis Muldoon 2024-03-17, 11:17

Libertarians are Republicans who want people to think they're smart.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-03-17, 12:17

Pervis Muldoon wrote:Libertarians are Republicans who want people to think they're smart.
It's even worse... They are Rs who want to run from the shady duplicitous bullshit that is standard of the party now, but still be anti-social assholes. All of the benefits of thinking you are a "self sufficient" human, so you can be an asshole and things that dont necessarily affect you, none of the guilt of seeing what other assholes like you lead to in a national party.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2024-03-17, 12:58

Not wanting links means posters can use Breitbart (Steve Bannon was an executive until her resigned to join the Trump campaign), Washington Times (owned by Unification Church) online publications with a history of being platforms for the alt-right views (see Ping Pong Pizza "scandal") and piously claim they saw it reported.

Alt news shouldn't equal alt facts.

Way off base Kingston unless you favor 2024 election results being ignored unless GOP candidates prevail regardless if they win the votes cast or they don't. Then we've just pissed away another chance to maintain the republic.
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Post by Motown Spartan 2024-03-17, 13:09

Pervis Muldoon wrote:Libertarians are Republicans who want people to think they're smart.

That, and they’re afraid to admit that they’re Repubs because of the pushback.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-17, 14:28

GRR Spartan wrote:Not wanting links means posters can use Breitbart (Steve Bannon was an executive until her resigned to join the Trump campaign), Washington Times (owned by Unification Church) online publications with a history of being platforms for the alt-right views (see Ping Pong Pizza "scandal") and piously claim they saw it reported.

Alt news shouldn't equal alt facts.

Way off base Kingston unless you favor 2024 election results being ignored unless GOP candidates prevail regardless if they win the votes cast or they don't.  Then we've just pissed away another chance to maintain the republic.

Thank you for not including a link.  Wink

Just thought it would be a nice place to comment on stuff without feeling the need link anything.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-03-17, 17:13

I heard people saying that Donald Trump was friends with Epstein because Epstein also dabbled in trafficking boys. That has to be the reason Trump was friends with him. That would imply that Trump is a gay pedophile. Sorry, no links, so i can't show you my super awesome source where i saw this.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-17, 17:44

Speculation that DeSantis is pressing to have Epsteins Florida records released. Some trump pay back?
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Post by tGreenWay 2024-03-17, 17:58

Pervis Muldoon wrote:Libertarians are Republicans who want people to think they're smart.



My favorite way to speak with libertarians is to tell them they can have certain restaurants with no regulations or oversight but they can only eat there and nowhere else. They might hesitate but usually say okay. Then I propose they only be allowed to fly Libertarian Airlines. That’s when they usually shut up. Stop signs and traffic lights are another good argument.
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Post by Pervis Muldoon 2024-03-17, 18:56

tGreenWay wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:Libertarians are Republicans who want people to think they're smart.



My favorite way to speak with libertarians is to tell them they can have certain restaurants with no regulations or oversight but they can only eat there and nowhere else. They might hesitate but usually say okay. Then I propose they only be allowed to fly Libertarian Airlines. That’s when they usually shut up. Stop signs and traffic lights are another good argument.

Nobody stands outside of the air traffic controller office and pickets against big government.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-20, 19:03

I hear the impeachment inquiry hearing went well today. A couple democrats called for an impeachment vote and not one republican backed the motion. Called their bluff.
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Post by Zurn 2024-03-20, 19:30

Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Nobody stands outside of the air traffic controller office and pickets against big government.

IIRC, in 1981 air traffic controllers stood outside the air traffic controller office and picketed against big government.  

Edited to delete a picture of the above event to satisfy posters who think a picture is a link.


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2024-03-20, 19:35

Zurn wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:

Nobody stands outside of the air traffic controller office and pickets against big government.

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No links huh. Okay fine I’ll type it instead.

The union was forced to disband after that strike was deemed illegal by world class human garbage Ronald Reagan.

So no, no one stands outside of air traffic control striking because they are not legally allowed to.

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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-20, 19:44

Thank you for playing by the rules Travis.  Us old timers remember Reagan pulling that shit.

I love opinions without links!
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Post by Zurn 2024-03-20, 20:27

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

So no, no one stands outside of air traffic control striking because they are not legally allowed to.


Wasn't legal in 1981 either but they did it.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2024-03-22, 08:46

Sounds like the Texas National Guard is doing a wonderful job protecting their part of the Mexican border. Not.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-04-07, 08:34

For the last year I’ve tried to “unplug” from “news”. I definitely have kept up on world events, local stuff, and sports. But Ive really tried to limit my exposure. Guess it seems like I know what’s right and what isn’t by who’s for it and who’s against it. You hear work chatter, muttering, conversations in the store, etc and you just have to sigh.  Sad it’s come to that but I realized after COVID and the 22’ general election it can eat you up and stresses you out. Looks like we’ve reached the point where relatively smart people have succumbed to disinformation and propaganda. Sucks it’s come to that but reasonable debate is a thing of the past between economic and social ideologies.
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Post by Zurn 2024-04-07, 08:57

Masks are not effective against COVID. Sad that a scientific debate is now a political one.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-04-07, 08:59

There has always been a bias in each media outlet.  Once about a time the J-schools and major outlets attempted as best they could to provide objective information in their news stories.  Then the J-schools began pointing out that the selection of which stories to report was in itself a filtering from reality to reporting.  They taught their students, from this observation that there is no such thing as objective reporting so there was no point in being objective in news stories.

This has totally screwed up the stories and thus caused too many opinions in the stories.  When a story says the thing being reported is "horrible" or "unprecedented" or any other descriptor it is telling the reader what to think about it, which is not objective reporting.

Politics & politicians started putting that on steroids back in the 1980's which has causes further stratification of political opinions.

One almost has to be one's own editor, striking all the descriptors from what one reads & reading multiple outlets to see the stories that each is reporting that the other is not.  Nobody has the time to do that consistently.


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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-04-07, 09:03

Zurn wrote:Masks are not effective against COVID.   Sad that a scientific debate is now a political one.

The science shows that masks designed to stop particles smaller than the covid virus used properly reduce the transmission of covid from person to person.

The studies cited to challenge that all have the same problem, they are about the wrong masks (not properly designed to stop the virus) used incorrectly.

Pretty much a textbook example of the media reporting a conclusion it wants to project based on selecting the stories it reports.
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Post by Zurn 2024-04-08, 10:28

Trapper Gus wrote:

The science shows that masks designed to stop particles smaller than the covid virus
Bump the thread when Meijer carries a N100 mask

The studies cited to challenge that all have the same problem, they are about the wrong masks (not properly designed to stop the virus) used incorrectly.

In other words, masks don't stop the spread of COVID.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-04-08, 10:37

Zurn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

The science shows that masks designed to stop particles smaller than the covid virus
Bump the thread when Meijer carries a N100 mask

The studies cited to challenge that all have the same problem, they are about the wrong masks (not properly designed to stop the virus) used incorrectly.

In other words, masks don't stop the spread of COVID.

N95 or KN95 masks are very effective.

Paper medical masks have some effectiveness by are not as effective as "95" masks

Cloth masks limit aerosol drops are the least effective but are better than no masks.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-04-08, 10:38

just to show you how stupid Americans are, the "COVID is a hoax", anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers support a christian rapist who wanted to inject people with bleach.

also, yes, libertarians are republicans who like to tell people they don't support the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist because it helps them sleep at night.

we all know who they vote for.
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