Re: We The People Have Core Values

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2024-04-04, 10:25

TravelinMan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:my core values are to stay away from the two things that cause the most heartache in our country: religion and guns.

probably a good thing the mainstream media didn't ask me..

That's cool. And I 100% support your right not to work hard, too.

54+ years and I've never needed any support not to work hard.

funny story - you'll probably hate it:

I had a director of a department I was working in once, maybe three decades ago, arrange a meeting with me. The first thing she said was "you don't seem to have a sense of urgency about anything".

and, of course, me being me and not really buying into the whole "hard work" myth, I smiled and go "thanks".. as it turns out, though, she didn't mean it as a compliment.

The look on her face was pretty epic. We The People Have Core Values - Page 2 502811600

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by TravelinMan 2024-04-04, 10:27

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Ya'll get mad when I bring up guns, I agree to drop the discussion of guns, and then you bring up guns again. Sheesh.

I expressed the "original meaning" of the 2nd, more to point out how crazy tSCOTUS decisions since the 1970's have been. Since you are crazy about this too, I mentioned your name. You seem to think I am angry at you, while I am angry at the activist Republican Court and their highly political rulings on the 2nd, which you are defending.

You got hella mad that I brought up the "lowest agreed upon topic," agreed with other posters who attacked me, and said I needed to stop posting like I'm on tOB.

Forgive me if I felt a slight bit of your rage pointed in my direction. We The People Have Core Values - Page 2 502811600

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-04, 10:34

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I expressed the "original meaning" of the 2nd, more to point out how crazy tSCOTUS decisions since the 1970's have been. Since you are crazy about this too, I mentioned your name. You seem to think I am angry at you, while I am angry at the activist Republican Court and their highly political rulings on the 2nd, which you are defending.

You got hella mad that I brought up the "lowest agreed upon topic," agreed with other posters who attacked me, and said I needed to stop posting like I'm on tOB.

Forgive me if I felt a slight bit of your rage pointed in my direction.

I forgive you.

As I was commenting on the projected outcome a particular posting style, I don't see that as anger at all, editorial comment, yes.

This getting into other posters motivations and assigning a motivation which may or may not be correct but is not germane to the subject is just so Wells, so this is my final post in this thread about my motivations.

by TravelinMan 2024-04-04, 10:55

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

You got hella mad that I brought up the "lowest agreed upon topic," agreed with other posters who attacked me, and said I needed to stop posting like I'm on tOB.

Forgive me if I felt a slight bit of your rage pointed in my direction.

I forgive you.

As I was commenting on the projected outcome a particular posting style, I don't see that as anger at all, editorial comment, yes.

This getting into other posters motivations and assigning a motivation which may or may not be correct but is not germane to the subject is just so Wells, so this is my final post in this thread about my motivations.

So Peeps got mad when I discussed guns. You didn't have much to say on religion. Any other topics you want to hit or should we just close this one out?

by **DWags** 2024-04-04, 11:16

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I expressed the "original meaning" of the 2nd, more to point out how crazy tSCOTUS decisions since the 1970's have been. Since you are crazy about this too, I mentioned your name. You seem to think I am angry at you, while I am angry at the activist Republican Court and their highly political rulings on the 2nd, which you are defending.

You got hella mad that I brought up the "lowest agreed upon topic," agreed with other posters who attacked me, and said I needed to stop posting like I'm on tOB.

Forgive me if I felt a slight bit of your rage pointed in my direction.

You know, it’s kind of like porn. You can’t define it but know it when you see it. We’ve been tolerant of RQA since his return as Zurn. But I think I speak for most mods and posters when I say we just won’t let this board ever become wells.

RQA brings a right wing presence, he hasn’t brought the wells hall style back with Zurn. (Heat gets final say about any of us hanging around) You also bring some great perspectives. As long as you don’t make shit up, or put down members families all is good.

Wells hall was a disgusting cess pool at the end. It was like a modern Trump Rally People just throwing shit out there and not listening to others.

Trapper found a link you requested. Instead of sarcastically saying “see that wasn’t so hard” it would have been cooler had you read the requested link and given your thoughts. But whatever.

Again, you can be sarcastic and irritating but as long as we don’t tumble down that cliff of Wells Hall, it’s all good on this board

by AvgMSUJoe 2024-04-04, 11:19

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I forgive you.

As I was commenting on the projected outcome a particular posting style, I don't see that as anger at all, editorial comment, yes.

This getting into other posters motivations and assigning a motivation which may or may not be correct but is not germane to the subject is just so Wells, so this is my final post in this thread about my motivations.

So Peeps got mad when I discussed guns. You didn't have much to say on religion. Any other topics you want to hit or should we just close this one out?

Freedom of the Press...
"The press" needs more definition, just as religion.
It would literally take me 15 min to throw up a webpage as complex as some established MSM sites. Dummies of 'merica can't differentiate.

I am against freedom of religion and freedom of the press apparently.

And don't get me started on how fucked up "equal protection under the law" is in this country.

by **GRR Spartan** 2024-04-04, 11:19

Not going to get rid of guns, too many already out there.
Might be able to limit sales of large capacity magazines and limit them to 8-10-12 rounds.

However I support the rights of gun owners to eat their guns anytime.

by **Motown Spartan** 2024-04-04, 11:19

The same people that don’t want gun control are the same people that waged the complete and utterly failure of a war on drugs. The hypocrisy is maddening.

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-04, 11:20

DWags wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

You got hella mad that I brought up the "lowest agreed upon topic," agreed with other posters who attacked me, and said I needed to stop posting like I'm on tOB.

Forgive me if I felt a slight bit of your rage pointed in my direction.

You know, it’s kind of like porn. You can’t define it but know it when you see it. We’ve been tolerant of RQA since his return as Zurn. But I think I speak for most mods and posters when I say we just won’t let this board ever become wells.

RQA brings a right wing presence, he hasn’t brought the wells hall style back with Zurn. (Heat gets final say about any of us hanging around) You also bring some great perspectives. As long as you don’t make shit up, or put down members families all is good.

Wells hall was a disgusting cess pool at the end. It was like a modern Trump Rally People just throwing shit out there and not listening to others.

Trapper found a link you requested. Instead of sarcastically saying “see that wasn’t so hard” it would have been cooler had you read the requested link and given your thoughts. But whatever.

Again, you can be sarcastic and irritating but as long as we don’t tumble down that cliff of Wells Hall, it’s all good on this board

For what it's worth, TM, the board poohbahs tolerate my posting style, too.

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-04, 11:22

Motown Spartan wrote:The same people that don’t want gun control are the same people that waged the complete and utterly failure of a war on drugs. The hypocrisy is maddening.

I think both of these are mostly issues used by the Republicans to win votes for members of Congress, etc.

The war on drugs has always been a racist dog whistle. The gun rights issue has racial undertones.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2024-04-04, 11:22

and no whining here, either.

I mean, I guess you can.. but the fragile, insecure whiny types will be mocked even more.

oh - and if you don't want to be held accountable for the words you actually type, this is probably not the place for you, either.

you're welcome.

by TravelinMan 2024-04-04, 11:46

DWags wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

You got hella mad that I brought up the "lowest agreed upon topic," agreed with other posters who attacked me, and said I needed to stop posting like I'm on tOB.

Forgive me if I felt a slight bit of your rage pointed in my direction.

You know, it’s kind of like porn. You can’t define it but know it when you see it. We’ve been tolerant of RQA since his return as Zurn. But I think I speak for most mods and posters when I say we just won’t let this board ever become wells.

RQA brings a right wing presence, he hasn’t brought the wells hall style back with Zurn. (Heat gets final say about any of us hanging around) You also bring some great perspectives. As long as you don’t make shit up, or put down members families all is good.

Wells hall was a disgusting cess pool at the end. It was like a modern Trump Rally People just throwing shit out there and not listening to others.

Trapper found a link you requested. Instead of sarcastically saying “see that wasn’t so hard” it would have been cooler had you read the requested link and given your thoughts. But whatever.

Again, you can be sarcastic and irritating but as long as we don’t tumble down that cliff of Wells Hall, it’s all good on this board

I was honestly shocked at the vitriol with which Trapper came back at me. Had I known he was so "busy" perhaps I could have phrased my request better, such as, "Hey, bud, I'm really interested in reading the source material for your random statistic. Whenever you get a chance, no hurry, could you please please pretty please post a link up? Thxkbai! smiley face heart emoji." But these are the cruel lessons we learn, I guess.

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-04, 11:55

TravelinMan wrote:
DWags wrote:

You know, it’s kind of like porn. You can’t define it but know it when you see it. We’ve been tolerant of RQA since his return as Zurn. But I think I speak for most mods and posters when I say we just won’t let this board ever become wells.

RQA brings a right wing presence, he hasn’t brought the wells hall style back with Zurn. (Heat gets final say about any of us hanging around) You also bring some great perspectives. As long as you don’t make shit up, or put down members families all is good.

Wells hall was a disgusting cess pool at the end. It was like a modern Trump Rally People just throwing shit out there and not listening to others.

Trapper found a link you requested. Instead of sarcastically saying “see that wasn’t so hard” it would have been cooler had you read the requested link and given your thoughts. But whatever.

Again, you can be sarcastic and irritating but as long as we don’t tumble down that cliff of Wells Hall, it’s all good on this board

I was honestly shocked at the vitriol with which Trapper came back at me. Had I known he was so "busy" perhaps I could have phrased my request better, such as, "Hey, bud, I'm really interested in reading the source material for your random statistic. Whenever you get a chance, no hurry, could you please please pretty please post a link up? Thxkbai! smiley face heart emoji." But these are the cruel lessons we learn, I guess.

When I have that much interest, I seek out the source material myself, instead of ragging on someone else to do it. I generally learn more about the situation that way rather than just following someone else's link.

by TravelinMan 2024-04-04, 12:04

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

I was honestly shocked at the vitriol with which Trapper came back at me. Had I known he was so "busy" perhaps I could have phrased my request better, such as, "Hey, bud, I'm really interested in reading the source material for your random statistic. Whenever you get a chance, no hurry, could you please please pretty please post a link up? Thxkbai! smiley face heart emoji." But these are the cruel lessons we learn, I guess.

When I have that much interest, I seek out the source material myself, instead of ragging on someone else to do it. I generally learn more about the situation that way rather than just following someone else's link.

Asking = “ragging”?” Who’s got a victim complex now?

I spent a minute or two searching, didn’t find it, and asked. You’ve taken that as some kind of assault on your character. We The People Have Core Values - Page 2 502811600

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-04, 12:06

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

When I have that much interest, I seek out the source material myself, instead of ragging on someone else to do it. I generally learn more about the situation that way rather than just following someone else's link.

Asking = “ragging”?” Who’s got a victim complex now?

I spent a minute or two searching, didn’t find it, and asked. You’ve taken that as some kind of assault on your character.

First time you said you looked, if you had said that in your first response there would be fewer posts about this.

by **DWags** 2024-04-04, 12:10

TravelinMan wrote:
DWags wrote:

You know, it’s kind of like porn. You can’t define it but know it when you see it. We’ve been tolerant of RQA since his return as Zurn. But I think I speak for most mods and posters when I say we just won’t let this board ever become wells.

RQA brings a right wing presence, he hasn’t brought the wells hall style back with Zurn. (Heat gets final say about any of us hanging around) You also bring some great perspectives. As long as you don’t make shit up, or put down members families all is good.

Wells hall was a disgusting cess pool at the end. It was like a modern Trump Rally People just throwing shit out there and not listening to others.

Trapper found a link you requested. Instead of sarcastically saying “see that wasn’t so hard” it would have been cooler had you read the requested link and given your thoughts. But whatever.

Again, you can be sarcastic and irritating but as long as we don’t tumble down that cliff of Wells Hall, it’s all good on this board

I was honestly shocked at the vitriol with which Trapper came back at me. Had I known he was so "busy" perhaps I could have phrased my request better, such as, "Hey, bud, I'm really interested in reading the source material for your random statistic. Whenever you get a chance, no hurry, could you please please pretty please post a link up? Thxkbai! smiley face heart emoji." But these are the cruel lessons we learn, I guess.

See, don’t do that. I didn’t say anything about your request for the link. (I do believe that some posters probably deserve a pass without said link, but your request was reasonable). But once you got it what was your response? Let’s stay on subject. Don’t turn this into wells. I commented on your reaction to him once he found it for you. Don’t jump around here. It’s not wells.

by TravelinMan 2024-04-04, 12:17

DWags wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

I was honestly shocked at the vitriol with which Trapper came back at me. Had I known he was so "busy" perhaps I could have phrased my request better, such as, "Hey, bud, I'm really interested in reading the source material for your random statistic. Whenever you get a chance, no hurry, could you please please pretty please post a link up? Thxkbai! smiley face heart emoji." But these are the cruel lessons we learn, I guess.

See, don’t do that. I didn’t say anything about your request for the link. (I do believe that some posters probably deserve a pass without said link, but your request was reasonable). But once you got it what was your response? Let’s stay on subject. Don’t turn this into wells. I commented on your reaction to him once he found it for you. Don’t jump around here. It’s not wells.

And I told you, my response upon receiving the link was directly proportional to his snarkiness in providing it.

But I'll be happy to drop it because I find it more funny than anything else.

by TravelinMan 2024-04-04, 12:17

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Asking = “ragging”?” Who’s got a victim complex now?

I spent a minute or two searching, didn’t find it, and asked. You’ve taken that as some kind of assault on your character.

First time you said you looked, if you had said that in your first response there would be fewer posts about this.

Yeah, OK.

by **DWags** 2024-04-04, 12:24

TravelinMan wrote:
DWags wrote:

See, don’t do that. I didn’t say anything about your request for the link. (I do believe that some posters probably deserve a pass without said link, but your request was reasonable). But once you got it what was your response? Let’s stay on subject. Don’t turn this into wells. I commented on your reaction to him once he found it for you. Don’t jump around here. It’s not wells.

And I told you, my response upon receiving the link was directly proportional to his snarkiness in providing it.

But I'll be happy to drop it because I find it more funny than anything else.

Again, stay on subject,. All good.

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