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Post by steveschneider Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 21:45

We have seen this script before. Up comfortably, playing to kill the clock and allowing the other team back in it.

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Post by DWags Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 21:59

Nah. This team is good. I'm not worried.
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Post by steveschneider Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:00

We will win the b10 because the conference is dog shit but Oregon is on a different level.
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Post by MSUgöat Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:01

We should be on that level.
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Post by LoneWolfSparty Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:04

Remember the nd game last year. We got better every week after that. Same here. This team will beat Oregon in December.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:05

steveschneider wrote:We will win the b10 because the conference is dog shit but Oregon is on a different level.

That level was a step below MSU in the first half. Completely confident the defense will not have those breakdowns in November.
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Post by steveschneider Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:08

LoneWolfSparty wrote:Remember the nd game last year. We got better every week after that. Same here. This team will beat Oregon in December.

If they let a one loss B10 team in the playoffs. Michigan is getting whipped, and Ohio State is losing. Rewind to last week you had LSU doing the same to Wisconsin what Oregon did to us.

The conference is a heaping pile of dog shit.
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Post by Jethro Bodeen Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:11

Play the games at home or neutral- its a different story.
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Post by DWags Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:12

steveschneider wrote:LoneWolfSparty wrote:“Remember the nd game last year. We got better every week after that. Same here. This team will beat Oregon in December.”If they let a one loss B10 team in the playoffs. Michigan is getting whipped, and Ohio State is losing. Rewind to last week you had LSU doing the same to Wisconsin what Oregon did to us. The conference is a heaping pile of dog shit.

Come on Steve, save the pessimism for the tigers. We're goin to be fine
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Post by Keith Stone Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:13

Pardon my ignorance but Oregon makes a trip to EL in the coming years correct?
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Post by steveschneider Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:14

Jethro Bodeen wrote:Play the games at home or neutral- its a different story.


Today's loss felt exactly like the UConn loss...had the lead, had the game, but good hustle and rock solid d turned the game around.

I think both games are examples of where MSU lost to national champions.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:15

Keith Stone wrote:Pardon my ignorance but Oregon makes a trip to EL in the coming years correct?

Next September
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Post by steveschneider Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:26

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Next September

We gotta move forward with the offense. Oregon looked like they had our play book figured out.
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Post by RubberbandMan Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:30

I think this just proves you don't really remember the JLS/Bobby years. Seriously, we had some breakdowns in the secondary against the number 3 team in the country, on the road in a hostile environment, and you're ready to sound the "SAME OLD SPARTANS" alarm? Rolling Eyes

Get a grip.
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Post by Turtleneck Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:32

steveschneider wrote:

We gotta move forward with the offense. Oregon looked like they had our play book figured out.

OL is not impressive right now. That really killed MSU in the 2nd half. A good running game would have kept their O off the field and the MSU D rested. Very disappointing.
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Post by Rocinante Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:34

steveschneider wrote:LoneWolfSparty wrote:“Remember the nd game last year. We got better every week after that. Same here. This team will beat Oregon in December.”If they let a one loss B10 team in the playoffs. Michigan is getting whipped, and Ohio State is losing. Rewind to last week you had LSU doing the same to Wisconsin what Oregon did to us. The conference is a heaping pile of dog shit.

This is the correct answer.
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Post by Rod Porkmore Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:36

LoneWolfSparty wrote:Remember the nd game last year. We got better every week after that. Same here. This team will beat Oregon in December.

MSU will never get that chance, even if they win out. The rest of the conference is dog shit.
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Post by steveschneider Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:40

The only reason why everyone isn't worried is because they saw how bad the B10 was today, and there's no reason to believe that the Spartans cant' win out.

There's no excuse to lose against any of the remaining teams on our schedule including the B10 championship game.
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Post by RubberbandMan Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:41

Rod Porkmore wrote:

MSU will never get that chance, even if they win out.  The rest of the conference is dog shit.

It was dog shit last year, and I guarantee we would've been in.
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Post by Turtleneck Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:44

Rocinante wrote:

This is the correct answer.

Oregon is a tough team to play. All of those idiots on the other board that carry on about Oregon being smoke and mirrors saw that they are a tough team. So what I take from tonight is that MSU has a lot of work to do but has the skill to be a very good team. They did not pass this test, but it was a tough test and one hell of a learning experience for the young guys. If I had a big concern, it would be that the OL is not getting it done.
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Post by Code_Warrior Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:46

I think MSU showed up to play, and played well, but I have to give props to Oregon and Mariotta. They were down and could have given up, but Mariotta just made some great plays and I have to tip my hat to him. I don't think this was an embarrassment or anything like that. Definitely not SOS.

That being said, our run game should have been better than that. I don't care what BS the announcers were spewing about Oregon's defense bulking up. After having trouble running the ball against Jacksonville State, I think there's some issues that need to be worked out.
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Post by Heat Miser Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:49

Code_Warrior wrote:I think MSU showed up to play, and played well, but I have to give props to Oregon and Mariotta.  They were down and could have given up, but Mariotta just made some great plays and I have to tip my hat to him.  I don't think this was an embarrassment or anything like that.  Definitely not SOS.

That being said, our run game should have been better than that.  I don't care what BS the announcers were spewing about Oregon's defense bulking up.  After having trouble running the ball against Jacksonville State, I think there's some issues that need to be worked out.

This. Props to Oregon. We're not the only team that can overcome adversity. No shame here. They're good.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:56

Oregon is good. We went there and competed. Were in control for awhile. We run the table and have some other things fall our way we're right in that picture.
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Post by SawGreen Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:58

steveschneider wrote:We will win the b10 because the conference is dog shit but Oregon is on a different level.

I don't think that level is all that different than MSU. A few athletic discrepancies, but less than were advertised.
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Post by Heat Miser Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:59

SawGreen wrote:
steveschneider wrote:We will win the b10 because the conference is dog shit but Oregon is on a different level.

I don't think that level is all that different than MSU.  A few athletic discrepancies,  but less than were advertised.

A handful of breakdowns on D.
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Post by SawGreen Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 22:59

Also... do the ducks even where shoulder pads?
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Post by SawGreen Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:03

SawGreen wrote:Also... do the ducks even where shoulder pads?

Fvck. Can you edit on mobile? "where?"... good grief.
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Post by NigelUno Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:15

gHost Spartan wrote:Msu is a, good team and I agree we play the Ducks in December we win

December? I'd rather not play them in December.
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Post by Stoops21 Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:42

Yup. Out coached. Out manned. Over powered (against a pussy front 7 which is ****ing disgusting) stupid penalties. Awful play calling. Who the fuck lets off the pedal against Oregon. 3rd and a foot and you throw?! Don't even get me started on the dumb ass penalties. Also Drummond is terrible and gave them 21 points not really sure what else to say about him. Not really sure what to think now.


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Post by Turtleneck Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:43

Stoops21 wrote:Yup. Out coached. Out manned. Over powered (against a pussy front 7 which is ****ing disgusting) stupid penalties. Awful play calling. Who the fuck lets off the pedal against Oregon. 3rd and a foot and you throw?! Don't even get me started on the dumb ass penalties. Also Drummond is terrible and gave them 21 points not really sure what else to say about him. Just terrible all around. This season could get ugly at some point.

It only took two games....
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Post by Heat Miser Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:44

Stoops21 wrote:Yup. Out coached. Out manned. Over powered (against a pussy front 7 which is ****ing disgusting) stupid penalties. Awful play calling. Who the fuck lets off the pedal against Oregon. 3rd and a foot and you throw?! Don't even get me started on the dumb ass penalties. Also Drummond is terrible and gave them 21 points not really sure what else to say about him. Just terrible all around. This season could get ugly at some point.

Luckily, we don't have to play Oregon again. I think we'll be alright drama queen
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Post by duffy munn Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:51

Stoops21 wrote:. Not really sure what to think now.

First panic and then quit. It's what you do best.


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Post by SeeRockCity Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:53

Stoops21 wrote:Yup. Out coached. Out manned. Over powered (against a pussy front 7 which is ****ing disgusting) stupid penalties. Awful play calling. Who the fuck lets off the pedal against Oregon. 3rd and a foot and you throw?! Don't even get me started on the dumb ass penalties. Also Drummond is terrible and gave them 21 points not really sure what else to say about him. Not really sure what to think now.

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Post by Stoops21 Sat 6 Sep 2014 - 23:56

Sorry it sucks being out coached and we played scared. The play calling in the second half was putrid. Secondary is poor.
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Post by DWags Sun 7 Sep 2014 - 0:28

Stoops21 wrote:Sorry it sucks being out coached and we played scared. The play calling in the second half was putrid. Secondary is poor.

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Post by tanfan! Sun 7 Sep 2014 - 6:24

steveschneider wrote:

We gotta move forward with the offense. Oregon looked like they had our play book figured out.
They took the tight end out of the game in the second half. Made the adjustment on the running game. We were toast after that
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Post by Izzo Court Sun 7 Sep 2014 - 9:18

Rod Porkmore wrote:

MSU will never get that chance, even if they win out.  The rest of the conference is dog shit.

A one loss MSU team gets in if their only loss is to the #1 ranked and undefeated Ducks.
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Post by Brock Middlebrook Sun 7 Sep 2014 - 9:27

MSUgöat wrote:We should be on that level.

Totally agree
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Post by steveschneider Sun 7 Sep 2014 - 9:35

Stoops21 wrote:Yup. Out coached. Out manned. Over powered (against a pussy front 7 which is ****ing disgusting) stupid penalties. Awful play calling. Who the fuck lets off the pedal against Oregon. 3rd and a foot and you throw?! Don't even get me started on the dumb ass penalties. Also Drummond is terrible and gave them 21 points not really sure what else to say about him. Not really sure what to think now.

There was that one drive where they suffer us on the 4th and 2 and then scored on two plays. Absolutely shredded the d.
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Post by Frank Ricard Sun 7 Sep 2014 - 11:20

RubberbandMan wrote:

It was dog shit last year, and I guarantee we would've been in.

Not only would we have been in, IMO we would have beaten either FSU and Auburn. Ironically, the only team last year that I wasn't sure we'd match up with was a healthy Oregon team.
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