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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-09-27, 01:00

So....

The boys are getting to the age where we need to do more "outdoor" activities. Took them fishing last weekend with our canoe, had a great time etc., but almost took the front end off of our Honda Odyssey navigating the forest service roads. I would also like to tow various small trailers (sailboat, lumber trailer, blah, blah, blah), use if for camping etc.

Requirements:

Fits 6 humans and a lot of other stuff for short trips (Crew cab)
Will be used for a lot of "wilderness management area" trips (4X4?)
Needs to be able to haul 4X8 sheets of plywood and 10-14' long boards (I'm a woodworker).
Will only be used for outings and hauling so I don't really care if it's easy to parallel park.

So I'm thinking full-sized, 4X4 with extended bed, under 150k miles, 2-3 owners and a clean carfax. If I'm lucky, this keeps it under $15k.

This is a third car, this truck will sit a lot. 5k miles per year would be a boat ton of fishing / camping / lumber yard trips. Diesel would be great, but used Diesels in this price range are just too much $$ (yeah, I'm poor bro).

looking at the usual, F150, Silverado, Sierra, Ram, Titan

What say you?
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Post by Gomer 2014-09-27, 01:46

Unless you want your boys to think you're a pussy:

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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-09-27, 02:15

Gomer wrote:Unless you want your boys to think you're a pussy:

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Post by xsanguine 2014-09-27, 02:35

SeeRockCity wrote:So.....(I'm a woodworker).

I bet you are.
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Post by The Pantry 2014-09-27, 06:22

Pickups are for contractors.  

Much more comfortable given your 6 passenger criteria

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Post by kingstonlake 2014-09-27, 06:50

I'd say any pick up that fits your specs would do since its going to sit alot. Comfort doesn't seem to be that important in this case. Research your motors and towing capacities, maybe a tranny cooler, and a six speed if you'd like a little better mileage.
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Post by Izzo Court 2014-09-27, 07:32

When gas was almost $4 a gallon I found out while filling up my Silverado that gas pumps stop when they hit $100. Other than that I would stick with Chevy or Ford simply for the reduced cost of repairs considering the age and milage you're looking for.
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Post by LoneWolfSparty 2014-09-27, 08:02

Full sized bed and off reading don't mix well.
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Post by LoneWolfSparty 2014-09-27, 08:02

Roading not reading.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-09-27, 21:41

The Pantry wrote:Pickups are for contractors.  

Much more comfortable given your 6 passenger criteria

Suburban

Not interested in a covered wagon. Want to haul lumber and a tractor, landscaping supplies, etch without having to hook up a trailer.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-09-27, 21:43

LoneWolfSparty wrote:Full sized bed and off reading don't mix well.

Good info, thanks. Not doing any serious off reading, just want something that can handle a typical timber road. Full size to me probably means 6.5 foot.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-09-27, 21:46

Izzo Court wrote:When gas was almost $4 a gallon I found out while filling up my Silverado that gas pumps stop when they hit $100. Other than that I would stick with Chevy or Ford simply for the reduced cost of repairs considering the age and milage you're looking for.

Yeah,
Izzo Court wrote:When gas was almost $4 a gallon I found out while filling up my Silverado that gas pumps stop when they hit $100. Other than that I would stick with Chevy or Ford simply for the reduced cost of repairs considering the age and milage you're looking for.

Yeah, not planning on driving a ton. Understand what I'm getting into on gas $. Interesting on repair costs. You're implying Nissan, Toyota, and Dodge would be more expensive to maintain?
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-09-27, 21:49

kingstonlake wrote:I'd say any pick up that fits your specs would do since its going to sit alot. Comfort doesn't seem to be that important in this case. Research your motors and towing capacities, maybe a tranny cooler, and a six speed if you'd like a little better mileage.

Tranny cooler? please educate me.
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Post by 75alum 2014-09-28, 18:46

If you truly want to off road, you want a reliable transfer case and at least a diff locker in the rear. Shorter wheelbase = best off roading. Off roading I'm talking about Grayling military coarse type with deep sand. Most HD's will have a tranny cooler. You don't need a lot of HP, just good low end torque; rear axle ratio + good transfer case like Borg Warner, Magna or even Aisin (mostly used by Jeep). The bad news is that off road packages don't net the best on road mileage but a choice to make if the off roading (fun) is most important.
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Post by 75alum 2014-09-28, 18:51

SeeRockCity wrote:

Tranny cooler?  please educate me.

Tranny cooler is just an added condenser, (small radiator) that usually sits in front of the radiator.  The transmission fluid has lines that run through your radiator condenser to cool the transmission fluid.  The cooler can be factory option or after market add on. Most radiators are designed for normal transmission on road temps only. This is for automatic transmissions. Manual gearboxes are generally air cooled only.
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Post by Brock Middlebrook 2014-09-29, 11:06

You can't go wrong with either one of these

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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-24, 22:23

It it done

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Post by Big Ten Referee 2014-10-24, 22:42

Trucks are for guys trying to compensate for something.
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Post by Big Ten Referee 2014-10-24, 22:43

In my case, that would be my Civic. I can't even fit a bag of goose decoys in the ****ing thing.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-24, 22:44

Big Ten Referee wrote:Trucks are for guys trying to compensate for something.

Correct.

I need to compensate for the fact that I have nothing to use for hauling garbage, lumber, or landscaping supplies; pulling trailers, going fishing and camping with my boys in north Georgia on poorly maintained service roads.
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Post by Death Roe 2014-10-24, 22:45

I almost bought an F-150 a few months ago. Then I realized I would hate it after the "cool" factor wore off in a few weeks.

I'm trying to get another Taurus.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-24, 22:47

Death Roe wrote:I almost bought an F-150 a few months ago. Then I realized I would hate it after the "cool" factor wore off in a few weeks.

I'm trying to get another Taurus.

This is a third vehicle for us. I don't think I could deal with it (or afford it) as an every day driver.
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Post by SawGreen 2014-10-25, 00:41

I'm thinking less than truck (i.e. van or suv) and a light trailer fits you better.  But, if you are dead set on truck.  Bump to a 3/4 ton... just because.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-25, 01:09

SawGreen wrote:I'm thinking less than truck (i.e. van or suv) and a light trailer fits you better.  But, if you are dead set on truck.  Bump to a 3/4 ton... just because.

1.)Already have a van,
2.)Am getting a trailer too,
3.)Already bought the truck - see photos in thread.
4.)I'm not sure if you are questioning my manhood in this post.
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Post by The Pantry 2014-10-25, 04:33

SeeRockCity wrote:

1.)Already have a van,
2.)Am getting a trailer too,
3.)Already bought the truck - see photos in thread.
4.)I'm not sure if you are questioning my manhood in this post.
1) Honda Odyssey is not a van
2) Trailers are super handy if you have a place to park one for the 99.99% of the time you're not using it
3) Glad you bought American for a change
4) Your manhood and life choices are both in question for buying a pickup with a camel interior
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Post by 75alum 2014-10-25, 10:46

SeeRockCity wrote:It it done

Here it is while airing out, ("new car" air freshener makes me want to vomit):

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Nice find. You may use it more than you think in winter. Highway driving using 4 WD high makes for a nice stable drive. As long as you have a low mu surface 4 WD high is great. If you turn the wheel and feel "crow hop", time to go back to 2WD.
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Post by The Pantry 2014-10-25, 11:38

75alum wrote:

Nice find. You may use it more than you think in winter. Highway driving using 4 WD high makes for a nice stable drive. As long as you have a low mu surface 4 WD high is great. If you turn the wheel and feel "crow hop", time to go back to 2WD.
GM 4WD systems also have an Autotrac 4WD setting which transfers power to the front wheels as needed. It's a nice setting for rain, light snow, dirt roads, etc
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Post by pulling69 2014-10-25, 14:07

Did you order the truck sack yet?

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Post by 75alum 2014-10-25, 14:09

pulling69 wrote:Did you order the truck sack yet?

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Post by pulling69 2014-10-25, 14:37

75alum wrote:

Do they cum in black?

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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-25, 14:41

75alum wrote:
SeeRockCity wrote:It it done

Here it is while airing out, ("new car" air freshener makes me want to vomit):

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Nice find. You may use it more than you think in winter. Highway driving using 4 WD high makes for a nice stable drive. As long as you have a low mu surface 4 WD high is great. If you turn the wheel and feel "crow hop", time to go back to 2WD.

Thanks! Already using more than I thought.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-25, 14:42

The Pantry wrote:
75alum wrote:

Nice find. You may use it more than you think in winter. Highway driving using 4 WD high makes for a nice stable drive. As long as you have a low mu surface 4 WD high is great. If you turn the wheel and feel "crow hop", time to go back to 2WD.
GM 4WD systems also have an Autotrac 4WD setting which transfers power to the front wheels as needed. It's a nice setting for rain, light snow, dirt roads, etc

Yup. 4wd "auto". Looking forward to trying it out if we get snow down here this winter.
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Post by 75alum 2014-10-25, 14:48

SeeRockCity wrote:

Yup.  4wd "auto".  Looking forward to trying it out if we get snow down here this winter.
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Post by Turtleneck 2014-10-25, 14:50

SeeRockCity wrote:

Yup. 4wd "auto". Looking forward to trying it out if we get snow down here this winter.

Congrats on the nice purchase. I mean, it's not a Ford, but it is still a very nice looking truck that will serve you well.

SeeRockCity wrote:It it done

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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-25, 15:03

Turtleneck wrote:
SeeRockCity wrote:

Yup. 4wd "auto". Looking forward to trying it out if we get snow down here this winter.

Congrats on the nice purchase. I mean, it's not a Ford, but it is still a very nice looking truck that will serve you well.

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Ha. Yeah, my first GM vehicle. tWife's late father was an engineer at "Ford's" for his whole career. I started out looking for an F150 but this was too good a deal. After some research, I was sold on the 5.3l V8. This one is also before AFM was introduced.
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Post by The Pantry 2014-10-25, 15:05

SeeRockCity wrote:

Yup. 4wd "auto". Looking forward to trying it out if we get snow down here this winter.
Does your new ride have a locking rear differential? If not, Autotrac is great in the rain and other situations where one of the rear wheels might spin
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Post by Turtleneck 2014-10-25, 15:12

SeeRockCity wrote:

Ha. Yeah, my first GM vehicle. tWife's late father was an engineer at "Ford's" for his whole career. I started out looking for an F150 but this was too good a deal. After some research, I was sold on the 5.3l V8. This one is also before AFM was introduced.


Honestly, it just comes down to preference. I am not sure that one is so much better than the other.

I can't believe I typed that. Must be the solidarity of Michigan day.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2014-10-25, 17:18

The Pantry wrote:
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Yup. 4wd "auto". Looking forward to trying it out if we get snow down here this winter.
Does your new ride have a locking rear differential? If not, Autotrac is great in the rain and other situations where one of the rear wheels might spin

It does. One of the reasons I couldn't pass on it. Towing package / Suspension, 4wd, Z off road package, 2 owners, always a Georgia truck.
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