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Post by CheesySpartan 2014-11-21, 09:22

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/obama-immigration-speech/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I'm trying to figure out what benefits the POTUS is granting with this executive order? If this article is correct it appears that he is simply "kicking the can" for three years till he is out of office.

Who will this help long term? It does not make anyone a citizen nor put them on a path to citizenship. It does not allow anyone to access government programs.

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Post by Dr. Strangelove 2014-11-21, 12:39

It's a feel good sop to his base and a provocation to the GOP.

I don't see why vast numbers of illegal aliens would try to take advantage of Obama's executive "amnesty". Why would they register here with the government on the basis of an executive order that will be surely be overturned in the case of the GOP President. That information could then be used to round up illegals. Now you might argue that the GOP could lose in 16 and of course they could.

So maybe an illegal would take advantage of Obama's order then? Not so sure they want to go to through the hassle associated and also expose themselves to paying processing fees and taxes.

From a practical matter it would just be easier and cheaper to remain illegal and continue going about your business.
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Post by Guest 2017-07-15, 17:23

Maine Town Resorts To Hiring Americans As Visas Run Out

Higher wages attract more and better workers… it’s really that simple. And if that enhanced compensation package is attracting more employees locally, why are you relying on the H-2B program to begin with? Remember that one of the requirements for a business to qualify to use H-2B workers is as follows:

Employing H-2B workers will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers.

If you can make your business model work during the busiest season by offering a better compensation package but you’re bringing in foreign workers who will do the job for less, isn’t that sort of undermining the purported reason for the program’s existence? There may not be enough locals around Bar Harbor to fill all of these seasonal jobs, but the employers there have been forced to take some actions which they might have considered before running out of visa holders.

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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-17, 12:07

The Department of Homeland Security on Monday announced a one-time increase of 15,000 additional visas for low-wage, seasonal workers for the remainder of this fiscal year, a seeming about-face from President Trump's "Hire American" rhetoric, following heavy lobbying from the fisheries, hospitality and other industries that rely on temporary foreign workers.

The increase represents a 45 percent bump from the number of H-2B visas normally issued for the second half of the fiscal year, said senior Homeland Security officials in a call with reporters Monday.

The visas are for workers taking temporary jobs in the seafood, tourism, landscaping, construction and other seasonal industries -- but not farm laborers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/17/trump-officials-order-15000-new-visas-for-low-wage-workers/?utm_term=.8957876f4f01
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Post by NigelUno 2017-07-17, 12:22

LooseGoose wrote:Maine Town Resorts To Hiring Americans As Visas Run Out

Higher wages attract more and better workers… it’s really that simple. And if that enhanced compensation package is attracting more employees locally, why are you relying on the H-2B program to begin with? Remember that one of the requirements for a business to qualify to use H-2B workers is as follows:



If you can make your business model work during the busiest season by offering a better compensation package but you’re bringing in foreign workers who will do the job for less, isn’t that sort of undermining the purported reason for the program’s existence? There may not be enough locals around Bar Harbor to fill all of these seasonal jobs, but the employers there have been forced to take some actions which they might have considered before running out of visa holders.


You seem to be ignoring that businesses (including Trump's) would rather have cheaper labor.

The lack of cheap foreign labor is essentially raising the minimum wage (something which I don't think you're in favor of). Seems to be a contradiction.

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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-07-17, 12:37

Has Trump replaced all the service workers at his hotels, golf resorts or winery working there with visa's with home grown US citizens?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/a-visa-banbut-not-for-trumps-foreign-workers
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Post by Guest 2017-07-17, 12:53

The significant downturn in the number of illegal border crossers between the U.S. and Mexico is "nothing short of miraculous," National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd said on C-SPAN Monday.

"As far as the Trump administration's efforts on immigration, this is something they campaigned heavily on," he said. "At six months, where we are on meeting those promises, we are seeing nothing short of miraculous. If you look at the rhetoric that President Trump has given, it has caused a number of illegal border crossings to go down. We have never seen such a drop that we currently have."

"There's a vibe, there's an energy in the Border Patrol that's never been there before in 20 years that I've been in the patrol," Judd added in a separate Fox News interview.

This month, Customs and Border Protection reported a 53 percent decrease in the number of apprehensions at the southwest border since last year. The number also includes those deemed inadmissible. CBP sees apprehensions as a proxy for how many people are trying to cross the border, and says the drop in apprehensions indicates a drop in attempted illegal crossings.

Judd said the Trump administration commanded in two executive orders for border agents to fully carry out related laws, while the Obama administration kept agents from doing their jobs as was intended.


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Post by NigelUno 2017-07-17, 13:48

LooseGoose wrote:
The significant downturn in the number of illegal border crossers between the U.S. and Mexico is "nothing short of miraculous," National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd said on C-SPAN Monday.

"As far as the Trump administration's efforts on immigration, this is something they campaigned heavily on," he said. "At six months, where we are on meeting those promises, we are seeing nothing short of miraculous. If you look at the rhetoric that President Trump has given, it has caused a number of illegal border crossings to go down. We have never seen such a drop that we currently have."

"There's a vibe, there's an energy in the Border Patrol that's never been there before in 20 years that I've been in the patrol," Judd added in a separate Fox News interview.

This month, Customs and Border Protection reported a 53 percent decrease in the number of apprehensions at the southwest border since last year. The number also includes those deemed inadmissible. CBP sees apprehensions as a proxy for how many people are trying to cross the border, and says the drop in apprehensions indicates a drop in attempted illegal crossings.

Judd said the Trump administration commanded in two executive orders for border agents to fully carry out related laws, while the Obama administration kept agents from doing their jobs as was intended.


Border Patrol union chief praises 'miraculous' drop in illegal immigration under Trump

How's the wall coming along?
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-17, 13:52

NigelUno wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:


Border Patrol union chief praises 'miraculous' drop in illegal immigration under Trump

How's the wall coming along?

It's almost done. They just have to add a few more windows.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-04-28, 08:05

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/28/immigration-crisis-economy-jobs-market-workers

It really is too bad that the Republicans are using this as a political whipping boy.
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