Preseason football Coaches poll out; MSU #6

1. Ohio State (62) 1,598
2. TCU (1) 1,487
3. Alabama (1) 1,452
4. Baylor 1,365
5. Oregon 1,260
6. Michigan State 1,230
7. Auburn 1,103
8. Florida State 1,057
9. Georgia 1,026
10. USC 1,014
11. Notre Dame 883
12. Clemson 838
13. LSU 727
14. UCLA 697
15. Ole Miss 668
16. Arizona State 577
17. Georgia Tech 573
18. Wisconsin 470
19. Oklahoma 407
20. Arkansas 377
21. Stanford 365
22. Arizona 299
23. Missouri 229
24. Boise State 190
25. Tennessee 166

Also receiving votes: Mississippi State 164; Texas A&M 149; Oklahoma State 89; Virginia Tech 70; Utah 40; Kansas State 37; Louisville 27; Nebraska 27; Minnesota 25; Penn State 20; South Carolina 18; Miami (Fla.) 16; Texas 8; Illinois 7; Duke 6; Air Force 5; Louisiana Tech 5; Marshall 4; Utah State 4; West Virginia 3; North Carolina State 3; Brigham Young 3; Florida 2; Georgia Southern 2; North Carolina 2; Maryland 1; Michigan 1; Kentucky 1; Central Florida 1; Cincinnati 1; Washington 1.

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/

way too low.. but I like the low expectations... we can play with a chip on our shoulder.

Voters this year:

The Amway Board of Coaches is made up of 64 head coaches at Bowl Subdivision schools. All are members of the American Football Coaches Association. The board for the 2015 season: Dino Babers, Bowling Green; David Bailiff, Rice; Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Terry Bowden, Akron; Art Briles, Baylor; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Matt Campbell, Toledo; Rod Carey, Northern Illinois; Norm Chow, Hawaii; Paul Chryst, Wisconsin; Larry Coker, Texas-San Antonio; David Cutcliffe, Duke; Mark Dantonio, Michigan State; Tim DeRuyter, Fresno State; Bob Diaco, Connecticut; Larry Fedora, North Carolina; Jimbo Fisher, Florida State; Kyle Flood, Rutgers; Dennis Franchione, Texas State; James Franklin, Penn State; Willie Fritz, Georgia Southern; Al Golden, Miami; Todd Graham, Arizona State; Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State; Jim Harbaugh, Michigan; Mark Helfrich, Oregon; Doc Holliday, Marshall; Mark Hudspeth, Louisiana-Lafayette; Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech; Joey Jones, South Alabama; Brian Kelly, Notre Dame; Brad Lambert, Charlotte; Lance Leipold, Buffalo; Rocky Long, San Diego State; Mike MacIntyre, Colorado; Gus Malzahn, Auburn; Doug Martin, New Mexico State; Dan McCarney, North Texas; Ruffin McNeill, East Carolina; Bronco Mendenhall, Brigham Young; Urban Meyer, Ohio State; Les Miles, LSU; Phillip Montgomery, Tulsa; Jim Mora, UCLA; Ken Niumatalolo, Navy; George O'Leary, Central Florida; Gary Patterson, TCU; Chris Petersen, Washington; Paul Petrino, Idaho; Gary Pinkel, Missouri; Paul Rhoads, Iowa State; Mark Richt, Georgia; Mike Riley, Nebraska; Nick Saban, Alabama; Frank Solich, Ohio; Steve Spurrier, South Carolina; Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee State; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M; Dabo Swinney, Clemson; Tommy Tuberville, Cincinnati; Matt Wells, Utah State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah

Baylor? Meh. Top 5 woulda been nice. Oregon won't last up there.

Giant Moose wrote:Voters this year:

The Amway Board of Coaches is made up of 64 head coaches at Bowl Subdivision schools. All are members of the American Football Coaches Association. The board for the 2015 season: Dino Babers, Bowling Green; David Bailiff, Rice; Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Terry Bowden, Akron; Art Briles, Baylor; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Matt Campbell, Toledo; Rod Carey, Northern Illinois; Norm Chow, Hawaii; Paul Chryst, Wisconsin; Larry Coker, Texas-San Antonio; David Cutcliffe, Duke; Mark Dantonio, Michigan State; Tim DeRuyter, Fresno State; Bob Diaco, Connecticut; Larry Fedora, North Carolina; Jimbo Fisher, Florida State; Kyle Flood, Rutgers; Dennis Franchione, Texas State; James Franklin, Penn State; Willie Fritz, Georgia Southern; Al Golden, Miami; Todd Graham, Arizona State; Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State; Jim Harbaugh, Michigan ; Mark Helfrich, Oregon; Doc Holliday, Marshall; Mark Hudspeth, Louisiana-Lafayette; Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech; Joey Jones, South Alabama; Brian Kelly, Notre Dame; Brad Lambert, Charlotte; Lance Leipold, Buffalo; Rocky Long, San Diego State; Mike MacIntyre, Colorado; Gus Malzahn, Auburn; Doug Martin, New Mexico State; Dan McCarney, North Texas; Ruffin McNeill, East Carolina; Bronco Mendenhall, Brigham Young; Urban Meyer, Ohio State; Les Miles, LSU; Phillip Montgomery, Tulsa; Jim Mora, UCLA; Ken Niumatalolo, Navy; George O'Leary, Central Florida; Gary Patterson, TCU; Chris Petersen, Washington; Paul Petrino, Idaho; Gary Pinkel, Missouri; Paul Rhoads, Iowa State; Mark Richt, Georgia; Mike Riley, Nebraska; Nick Saban, Alabama; Frank Solich, Ohio; Steve Spurrier, South Carolina; Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee State; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M; Dabo Swinney, Clemson; Tommy Tuberville, Cincinnati; Matt Wells, Utah State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah

Robert J Sakimano wrote:way too low.. but I like the low expectations... we can play with a chip on our shoulder.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Baylor? Meh. Top 5 woulda been nice. Oregon won't last up there.

We should be #3 or #4. We seem to be getting penalized more for Narduzzi leaving than we should.

Do Baylor or TCU have to play anyone out of conference? Well I think TCU plays Minny in Minny, so that's a pass for them. Baylor shouldn't be ranked out of the fact that they don't schedule anyone whatsoever.

Giant Moose wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Baylor? Meh. Top 5 woulda been nice. Oregon won't last up there.

We should be #3 or #4. We seem to be getting penalized more for Narduzzi leaving than we should.

Yeah, I don't understand how Baylor is ranked ahead of us.

The Ingenious Gentleman wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
We should be #3 or #4. We seem to be getting penalized more for Narduzzi leaving than we should.

Yeah, I don't understand how Baylor is ranked ahead of us.

The coaches probably wanted to make sure Baylor was in the top 4 so Briles didn't stab them.

Playoff teams this year:

OSU
Baylor
SEC
MSU

Bump this in December

Tim Wakefield wrote:Playoff teams this year:

OSU
Baylor
SEC
MSU

Bump this in December

I think the B12 gets snubbed again. Why Baylor over TCU? Baylor's OOC scheduling is everything that is wrong with college football schedules.
O$U
Pac12
SEC
ACC/MSU

InTenSity wrote:
I think the B12 gets snubbed again. Why Baylor over TCU? Baylor's OOC scheduling is everything that is wrong with college football schedules.
O$U
Pac12
SEC
ACC/MSU

Only because I think Baylor runs the table. If anyone wins 12 games, they're in regardless of their OOC sched

Tim Wakefield wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
I think the B12 gets snubbed again. Why Baylor over TCU? Baylor's OOC scheduling is everything that is wrong with college football schedules.
O$U
Pac12
SEC
ACC/MSU

Only because I think Baylor runs the table. If anyone wins 12 games, they're in regardless of their OOC sched

FSU ran the table, and their OOC wasn't quite as bad as Baylors, and they got pushed down to #3. I think the committee is, hopefully, looking very closely at the scheduling. Now then, if the B12 turns out to be decent, they have a shot, but with it being down, for the most part, I could see the committee not voting them in.

Baylor will lose at least once and possibly twice against West Virginia/K-State/TCU. When you don't challenge yourself, you set yourself up for a loss.

This is the year with no SEC playoff team so they can use it as an excuse to bump to 8.

The Ingenious Gentleman wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
We should be #3 or #4. We seem to be getting penalized more for Narduzzi leaving than we should.

Yeah, I don't understand how Baylor is ranked ahead of us.

Oh I don't know... 650 yards of offense?

Rocinante wrote:

The Ingenious Gentleman wrote:

Yeah, I don't understand how Baylor is ranked ahead of us.

Oh I don't know... 650 yards of offense?

And yet they still managed to lose. Plus they lost their QB who helped get them those 650 yards, cuz they didn't get shit on the ground.

InTenSity wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

Oh I don't know... 650 yards of offense?

And yet they still managed to lose. Plus they lost their QB who helped get them those 650 yards, cuz they didn't get shit on the ground.

Can we all just be honest and say winning that game needed a lot of luck and bad game management by Baylor?

Rocinante wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
And yet they still managed to lose. Plus they lost their QB who helped get them those 650 yards, cuz they didn't get shit on the ground.

Can we all just be honest and say winning that game needed a lot of luck and bad game management by Baylor?

If bad luck and game management could be dismissed, John L. Smith would be a two-time national champ.

Rocinante wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
And yet they still managed to lose. Plus they lost their QB who helped get them those 650 yards, cuz they didn't get shit on the ground.

Can we all just be honest and say winning that game needed a lot of luck and bad game management by Baylor?

How about a little bit of both. Baylor couldn't run the ball at all on us, so they were forced to throw. MSU stepped up at the end of the game, made the adjustments needed and forced 3 and outs. Baylor setup badly for a routine FG attempt, which isn't MSU's fault at all. MSU ran the blocking play they wanted to and executed it damn near perfectly. The game is 60 minutes long, and a lot of times teams need to play all 60 minutes.

A lot has to change for MSU to be successful against teams that run the read option or spread (well). I think they're ranked right about where they should be.

I keep reading stuff that says #6 is MSU's highest preseason ranking in the Coaches Poll ever. Why are these articles deeming the start of the Coaches Poll as 1991 just because that's when USA Today took over it?

The Coaches Poll has been around since 1950.

Rocinante wrote:

The Ingenious Gentleman wrote:

Yeah, I don't understand how Baylor is ranked ahead of us.

Oh I don't know... 650 yards of offense?

Actually, Baylor had 583 yards of offense, to State's 552. Not that much of a difference.

The Ingenious Gentleman wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

Oh I don't know... 650 yards of offense?

Actually, Baylor had 583 yards of offense, to State's 552. Not that much of a difference.

Actually I don't care.

Rocinante wrote:

The Ingenious Gentleman wrote:

Actually, Baylor had 583 yards of offense, to State's 552. Not that much of a difference.

Actually I don't care.

I think that is more than fair. It will be a tall order to finish that high. Vegas has us at 9.5 wins, but we would likely have to go 11-2 again to finish top 6. I know most of us have our sights set even higher with the playoff, but that would still be another great season.