Re: Official 2016 Detroit Tigers Thread

by **Giant Moose** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:21 am

steveschneider wrote:
Giant Moose wrote:
Because he refused to pitch deep into games in the postseason for the Tigers yet did it in regular season games in Washington like a hypocrite. Plus he's a baby and wants to eliminate pitchers batting.

Your loss? He had a pretty great stretch last year and had probably the best pitching performance last season with his near perfect game.

He's more concerned with personal accolades than team accolades. I still can't believe he was OK with being taken out of that postseason game with Detroit.

Yet, here he is in DC pitching almost 9 innings in July and falling apart in August. And pitching a no-hitter in October when his team failed to make the postseason while the Mets were resting guys because they had already clinched the division.

And whining that he has to bat. Did no one tell him that pitchers had to bat before he went to the NL? What an idiot.

by **DWags** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:22 am

Tigers early schedule is brutal. I can see them completely being below .500 the first Month or so, and then turning it on. Early brutal schedule will give a false sense of who they are. If the teams they're playing play like they did last year.

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:22 am

Deal of a lifetime: How Tigers got Cabrera in '07, changed everything

by **Giant Moose** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:30 am

LooseGoose wrote:Deal of a lifetime: How Tigers got Cabrera in '07, changed everything

The Tigers still have no titles since 1984, and finished last in their division in 2015 so what did it really change? I could see the Tigers finishing last back in 1998 for a fraction of the cost. And now they have a bad manager and no more GM ace because Ilitch made some weird decisions.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:50 am

Giant Moose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Your loss? He had a pretty great stretch last year and had probably the best pitching performance last season with his near perfect game.
He's more concerned with personal accolades than team accolades. I still can't believe he was OK with being taken out of that postseason game with Detroit.

Yet, here he is in DC pitching almost 9 innings in July and falling apart in August. And pitching a no-hitter in October when his team failed to make the postseason while the Mets were resting guys because they had already clinched the division.

And whining that he has to bat. Did no one tell him that pitchers had to bat before he went to the NL? What an idiot.

Scherzer is not the reason the Tigers failed to win a WS. With all due respect I think you're being a little too hard on him.

I don't recall the game you are mentioning, but even if he had stayed in the game I don't think it would have made a difference.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:50 am

DWags wrote:Tigers early schedule is brutal. I can see them completely being below .500 the first Month or so, and then turning it on. Early brutal schedule will give a false sense of who they are. If the teams they're playing play like they did last year.

It will be interesting. On Ausmus' watch the Tigers have typically started out hot in April.

by **Giant Moose** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:55 am

steveschneider wrote:
Giant Moose wrote:
He's more concerned with personal accolades than team accolades. I still can't believe he was OK with being taken out of that postseason game with Detroit.

Yet, here he is in DC pitching almost 9 innings in July and falling apart in August. And pitching a no-hitter in October when his team failed to make the postseason while the Mets were resting guys because they had already clinched the division.

And whining that he has to bat. Did no one tell him that pitchers had to bat before he went to the NL? What an idiot.

Scherzer is not the reason the Tigers failed to win a WS. With all due respect I think you're being a little too hard on him.

I don't recall the game you are mentioning, but even if he had stayed in the game I don't think it would have made a difference.

Game 2 of the 2013 ALCS against the Red Sox. And if you don't think it would have made the difference, then you are crazy. Our bullpen sucked royally and gave up a Grand Slam.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:55 am

Giant Moose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Scherzer is not the reason the Tigers failed to win a WS. With all due respect I think you're being a little too hard on him.

I don't recall the game you are mentioning, but even if he had stayed in the game I don't think it would have made a difference.
Game 2 of the 2013 ALCS against the Red Sox. And if you don't think it would have made the difference, then you are crazy. Our bullpen sucked royally and gave up a Grand Slam.

Pitched 7 innings with a 4 run lead and you had Benoit good to go.

What if Scherzer went 8 innings was gassed and gave up the same grand slam?

The biggest fallacy in baseball fans is they always assume the other scenario would have worked.

by **Giant Moose** Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:09 am

steveschneider wrote:
Giant Moose wrote:
Game 2 of the 2013 ALCS against the Red Sox. And if you don't think it would have made the difference, then you are crazy. Our bullpen sucked royally and gave up a Grand Slam.

Pitched 7 innings with a 4 run lead and you had Benoit good to go.

What if Scherzer went 8 innings was gassed and gave up the same grand slam?

The biggest fallacy in baseball fans is they always assume the other scenario would have worked.

It's not so much that I think it would have worked, but the guy was content that he was taken out only to have the bullpen blow it.

He wasn't upset. He thought it was the right call. That seemed crazy to me and his reasoning was he can only throw 6 or 7 innings. Then flash forward, I see him in a Nats uniform pitching almost 9 innings in regular season games...and complaining about not having a DH. Guy is a baby only concerned about himself.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:16 am

Giant Moose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Pitched 7 innings with a 4 run lead and you had Benoit good to go.

What if Scherzer went 8 innings was gassed and gave up the same grand slam?

The biggest fallacy in baseball fans is they always assume the other scenario would have worked.

It's not so much that I think it would have worked, but the guy was content that he was taken out only to have the bullpen blow it.

He wasn't upset. He thought it was the right call. That seemed crazy to me and his reasoning was he can only throw 6 or 7 innings. Then flash forward, I see him in a Nats uniform pitching almost 9 innings in regular season games...and complaining about not having a DH. Guy is a baby only concerned about himself.

Look at Matt Harvey last year. Pitched unbelievable game, had the Mets poised to win. Very visibly upset that he was going to get pulled and then proceeded to blow the series.

A prime example of a scenario that you are arguing for that didn't work out well. Harvey probably should have been more like Scherzer in that scenario but then again KC had produced runs on every Mets pitcher at that point.

by aualum06 Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:12 pm

What time is first pitch actually supposed to be?

by **Tim Wakefield** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:13 pm

Here we go! Predicting 86 wins this year. [koolaid]

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:22 pm

Tim Wakefield wrote:Here we go! Predicting 86 wins this year. [koolaid]

Sounds about right. I think it will take about 88 for a wc. I think they finish 2nd.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:23 pm

What's wveryone drinking?

by **Tim Wakefield** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:27 pm

steveschneider wrote:What's wveryone drinking?

Working

I'll be watching as much as possible. I actually have Miami's starter, Chen, on my fantasy team. Hope he gets shelled

by **The Pantry** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:30 pm

steveschneider wrote:What's wveryone drinking?

Perused a beer aisle at a store on the way home and picked up a bottle of this because I've never tried it

Official 2016 Detroit Tigers Thread - Page 8 Sam20s10

Official 2016 Detroit Tigers Thread - Page 8 Sam20s10

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:40 pm

The Pantry wrote:
steveschneider wrote:What's wveryone drinking?
Perused a beer aisle at a store on the way home and picked up a bottle of this because I've never tried it

Very nice. I've enjoyed every single one of their beers I've tried. Every time I have one I wonder why I don't drink more of them.

Btw I really like the way this season is going so far.

by **The_Dude** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:44 pm

steveschneider wrote:What's wveryone drinking?

Finest Kind IPA.

by aualum06 Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:44 pm

Solid start

by **The Pantry** Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:59 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Very nice. I've enjoyed every single one of their beers I've tried. Every time I have one I wonder why I don't drink more of them.

Love their Oatmeal Stout and Nut Brown Ale. Cracked open the chocolate stout. It's good but not my thing. Too much chocolate and too sweet. Young's Double Chocolate Stout is much better.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:01 pm

Verlander!

by **The Pantry** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:02 pm

Really nice start

by **kingstonlake** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:08 pm

Kins!

by **kingstonlake** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:09 pm

Whatever happened to Bullwrinkle the Boesch apologist?

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:11 pm

4-0 is certainly better than down by that score. Verlander will be (endearingly) insufferable after getting a hit and scoring on that HR.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:11 pm

Best Divide Orabelle when I get home!!

Who's got the stream?!

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:16 pm

Pistons & Heat just tipping on TNT too.....

they need to go 3-2 to clinch playoffs......and that's if the Bulls go 5-0.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:19 pm

Just cracked open a tall boy of coors lite. #ballpark beer

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:21 pm

The Pantry wrote:
steveschneider wrote:
Very nice. I've enjoyed every single one of their beers I've tried. Every time I have one I wonder why I don't drink more of them.
Love their Oatmeal Stout and Nut Brown Ale. Cracked open the chocolate stout. It's good but not my thing. Too much chocolate and too sweet. Young's Double Chocolate Stout is much better.

The two you listed are really nice beers. I think I liked their lager and their ipa as well.

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:28 pm

anthony fenech ‏@anthonyfenech 16m16 minutes ago
Justin Verlander is the first Tiger pitcher to record a hit on Opening Day since Mickey Lolich in 1971.

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:47 pm

MLB Stat of the Day ‏@MLBStatoftheDay 2m2 minutes ago
.@JustinVerlander becomes first AL pitcher with #OpeningDay hit since Bill Parsons and Ken Holtzman in 1972.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:49 pm

Things are looking up with Justin Upton.

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:54 pm

steveschneider wrote:Things are looking up with Justin Upton.

Not much to show for it but JD has hammered the ball all 3 abs.

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:00 pm

Mario alludes to the no-no in progress.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:01 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Things are looking up with Justin Upton.

Not much to show for it but JD has hammered the ball all 3 abs.

How long is Vmart out? This team could have an unreal offense with him.

by **The_Dude** Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:03 pm

steveschneider wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Not much to show for it but JD has hammered the ball all 3 abs.

How long is Vmart out? This team could have an unreal offense with him.

Castellanos still sucks so far. Move iggy to 1, kinsler 2 and Upton 5?

by Guest Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:05 pm

steveschneider wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Not much to show for it but JD has hammered the ball all 3 abs.

How long is Vmart out? This team could have an unreal offense with him.

Not playing because of being in Miami...no DH. Supposedly is ready to go.

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:10 pm

The_Dude wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

How long is Vmart out? This team could have an unreal offense with him.

Castellanos still sucks so far. Move iggy to 1, kinsler 2 and Upton 5?

I've wanted iggy at 1 for ever. I don't understand why they didn't experiment with it last year When we were in last.

by **DWags** Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:11 pm

So, is Verlander on a strict count? Does he let him go for a while longer?

by **steveschneider** Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:20 pm

DWags wrote:So, is Verlander on a strict count? Does he let him go for a while longer?

Probably goes 7 or 8.

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