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Post by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 18:17

Speculate on the 17th football commit - supposedly a silent to everyone but staff.


I say it's Thomas.
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Post by tanfan! Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 18:32

I for one am not worried.
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Post by pulling69 Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 18:34

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Post by Tim Wakefield Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 18:36

Hi Curtis.
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tGreenWay wrote:People read this site.

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Post by pulling69 Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 18:56

InTenSity wrote:How old is that Razr? #V4MSU Commit watch Thread!! 502811600

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 19:16

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Post by tGreenWay Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 19:19

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Fuck recruits

That's more of an SEC thing. The B1G is more subtle.
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 19:50

Dantonio could coach our asses up and win six or seven. We don't need croots. Fuck them. And Curtis or Warner , bring me a samich.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 20:04

DWags wrote:Dantonio could coach our asses up and win six or seven. We don't need croots. Fuck them. And Curtis or Warner , bring me a samich.

OL and elite speed on offense two things that have prevented Dantonio from winning it all.
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 20:54

The_Dude wrote:
DWags wrote:Dantonio could coach our asses up and win six or seven. We don't need croots. Fuck them. And Curtis or Warner , bring me a samich.

OL and elite speed on offense two things that have prevented Dantonio from winning it all.

Nah, we would have beat FSU in 2013. Especially how we were playing at the end. We beat the most talented team in America last year at their place with a beat up team.

Bama played a great game against us. We were there. That was Dantonio's third best team last year. 2013 was the best in America in December and January.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 21:14

DWags wrote:
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OL and elite speed on offense two things that have prevented Dantonio from winning it all.

Nah, we would have beat FSU in 2013. Especially how we were playing at the end. We beat the most talented team in America last year at their place with a beat up team.

Bama played a great game against us. We were there. That was Dantonio's third best team last year. 2013 was the best in America in December and January.

Problem is OSU wasn't our opponent in the playoffs. And not sure they had more talent than Bama or Clemson. Talent doesn't always mean great team.

MSU will never beat Bama with a pro style. Bama doesn't lose to pro style teams.

And saying we would have beat FSU in 2013 is pure speculation. I agree I'd like our chances, that mnc game was a massive step below other mnc games in recent years. I don't think Auburn was even a top 5 team.

Problem in 2013 was MD might have cost himself his only shot at a nc by calling a fvcking dumb half back pass by Langford and then pulling Cook. Lots of who knows that year. I think 2018 will be the next year I think MSU has the developed overall talent to compete for an nc
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 22:26

But I'm tired of the drawn out narrative that tells us we don't have enough elite speed. Bullshit. We had professional wide receivers and flankers on the 2013 team, we had a first round offensive tackle, and a copule of all american linemen to go with them. We had a running back who not ohly had norht and south speed but east and west speed and is one of th etop RB's in the NFL for the bears right now. We had a QB who is an NFL QB, not the best, but certainly not the worst. Don't even get me started about the speed we had on the outside on defense, I don't recall any team with two first round draft choices at the corners who were lock down and fast as hell. Our linebackers were fricken evil, and that's with Jarius Jones being injured most of the season. The talen on the defensive line was enormous and those guys will also see the NFL and are seeing it. Rush is making a great move too now.

The shallow minded will look a the bama game and say we can't compare. That team last yhear clawed its' way through a shit ton of injuries and had no business being in the playoffs, we limped in and the uninformed will label a program wrongfully on that showing. But that 2013 team woul dhave beat the 2015 team at the end of the season by three or more touchdowns. We had NFL talent all over the field.

So, keep the narrative about the bama game going last year, Dantonio built a monster in 2013 and will do so again. It will cycle back through. We got screwed by two horrible calls at ND or I know we would have beat FSU
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Post by duffy munn Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 22:50

The_Dude wrote:
DWags wrote:

Nah, we would have beat FSU in 2013. Especially how we were playing at the end. We beat the most talented team in America last year at their place with a beat up team.

Bama played a great game against us. We were there. That was Dantonio's third best team last year. 2013 was the best in America in December and January.



MSU will never beat Bama with a pro style. Bama doesn't lose to pro style teams.


But U of M will. Because Harbs, right ?
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Post by Death Roe Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 22:54

The_Dude wrote:
DWags wrote:

Nah, we would have beat FSU in 2013. Especially how we were playing at the end. We beat the most talented team in America last year at their place with a beat up team.

Bama played a great game against us. We were there. That was Dantonio's third best team last year. 2013 was the best in America in December and January.

Problem is OSU wasn't our opponent in the playoffs. And not sure they had more talent than Bama or Clemson. Talent doesn't always mean great team.

MSU will never beat Bama with a pro style. Bama doesn't lose to pro style teams.

And saying we would have beat FSU in 2013 is pure speculation. I agree I'd like our chances, that mnc game was a massive step below other mnc games in recent years. I don't think Auburn was even a top 5 team.

Problem in 2013 was MD might have cost himself his only shot at a nc by calling a fvcking dumb half back pass by Langford and then pulling Cook. Lots of who knows that year. I think 2018 will be the next year I think MSU has the developed overall talent to compete for an nc

Guys, he played football in high school. We need to take his opinion as fact.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 22:58

Wags, we had the overall team speed in 2013 to win it all. I was saying last year we didn't. WR class this year is a step in right direction.

If our 2013 team played Bama last year, we lose, but it's a close game. Any weak link on OL just gets exploited too much against Bama.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 22:59

duffy munn wrote:
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MSU will never beat Bama with a pro style. Bama doesn't lose to pro style teams.


But U of M will. Because Harbs, right ?

You have a complex with UM. Just sayin.
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Post by Herbie Green Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:04

Funny how tDude is capable of legitimate sports discussion and some haters are only capable of flaming.
Who is the troll again?
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:08

Herbie Green wrote:Funny how tDude is capable of legitimate sports discussion and some haters are only capable of flaming.  
Who is the troll again?

The same people that bag in me are the same usual suspects who cry to mods on rcmb when their panties get in a wad. The thing is, we just tell them to fuck off here and they can't do anything about it. Drives them nuts. Which is why we ran off ghost and the same reason why tanfan isn't a regular here.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:10

The_Dude wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:Funny how tDude is capable of legitimate sports discussion and some haters are only capable of flaming.  
Who is the troll again?

The same people that bag in me are the same usual suspects who cry to mods on rcmb when their panties get in a wad. The thing is, we just tell them to fuck off here and they can't do anything about it. Drives them nuts.

Nah. Pretty much everyone hates you. You are a miserable human being that brings everyone and everything down around you.

You're pretty much the personification of cancer.
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Post by InTenSity Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:14

Herbie Green wrote:Funny how tDude is capable of legitimate sports discussion and some haters are only capable of flaming.
Who is the troll again?
How do you not see his m.o.? It's absolutes on how MSU would get destroyed. If there was a chance MSU could win, it's because they would've been the weakest champion ever. It isn't even debating MSU, it's coming to one or two talking points and repeating them ad nauseam. What makes you think he's an MSU fan? I think he might be a graduate, but he was that guy at state that walked around in blue and piss.
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:14

The_Dude wrote:Wags, we had the overall team speed in 2013 to win it all. I was saying last year we didn't.

I guess when you said the below it kind of counfused me.   It seems like you're saying one thing above and then the opposite below.  I'll let you explain what you meant further.

The_Dude wrote:

OL and elite speed on offense two things that have prevented Dantonio from winning it all.


I think, sometimes, maybe not you, but trolls have some throw out catch phrases because of the game vs. BAma last year, and one of them was about "team speed", but when they really think about who we've had here, they have to admit that it isn't hte case. To me, you're taking two different stances here. One, we had enough spped to win it all in 2013, two, Dantonio hasn't had the speed to do so.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:17

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

The same people that bag in me are the same usual suspects who cry to mods on rcmb when their panties get in a wad. The thing is, we just tell them to fuck off here and they can't do anything about it. Drives them nuts.

Nah. Pretty much everyone hates you. You are a miserable human being that brings everyone and everything down around you.

You're pretty much the personification of cancer.

Cool, people I wouldn't associate with in real life don't like my thoughts.
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Post by duffy munn Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:20

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But U of M will. Because Harbs, right ?

You have a complex with UM. Just sayin.

You are on record saying Harbs will win a National championship. He runs a pro style offense and will likely have to get past Bama for your dream to come true.

So tell us why Harbs can beat Bama but Dantonio won't.
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Post by duffy munn Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:21

The_Dude wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Nah. Pretty much everyone hates you. You are a miserable human being that brings everyone and everything down around you.

You're pretty much the personification of cancer.

Cool, people I wouldn't associate with in real life don't like my thoughts.

Because people here don't attend Klan meetings ?
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:23

The_Dude wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Nah. Pretty much everyone hates you. You are a miserable human being that brings everyone and everything down around you.

You're pretty much the personification of cancer.

Cool, people I wouldn't associate with in real life don't like my thoughts.

Ass cancer. Stage 4.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:24

duffy munn wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

You have a complex with UM. Just sayin.

You are on record saying Harbs will win a National championship. He runs a pro style offense and will likely have to get past Bama for your dream to come true.

So tell us why Harbs can beat Bama but Dantonio won't.

Silly straw man argument.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:26

Simple answer Duff is recruiting. He has access to that top shelf talent MSU doesn't. Like Gary and DPJ for example.

There's a reason ever national champ since bcs era had top 10 classes. Oregon and MSU have proved you can win a ton of games but neither have yet to win it all. Ditto with Stanford, tcu, etc.
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:27

The_Dude wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

You are on record saying Harbs will win a National championship. He runs a pro style offense and will likely have to get past Bama for your dream to come true.

So tell us why Harbs can beat Bama but Dantonio won't.

Silly straw man argument.

So, could you explain your two positions to me then? Did we ahve enough speed in 13 to win it all, but Dantonio won't have enough speed to win it all. What exactly do you mean by those two statements?
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Post by duffy munn Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:27

The_Dude wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

You are on record saying Harbs will win a National championship. He runs a pro style offense and will likely have to get past Bama for your dream to come true.

So tell us why Harbs can beat Bama but Dantonio won't.

Silly straw man argument.

So Harbs doesn't run a pro style offense ?

He's going to win it all according to you. Just tell us why.
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Post by duffy munn Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:28

DWags wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Silly straw man argument.

So, could you explain your two positions to me then? Did we ahve enough speed in 13 to win it all, but Dantonio won't have enough speed to win it all. What exactly do you mean by those two statements?

Coach D is not Harbs. That's why.
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Post by The_Dude Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:29

DWags wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Silly straw man argument.

So, could you explain your two positions to me then? Did we ahve enough speed in 13 to win it all, but Dantonio won't have enough speed to win it all. What exactly do you mean by those two statements?

He had it one year and blew the ND game. He will never field a D that good. And with the playoffs now, unlikely you'd see two teams as weak as FSU and Auburn were that year. Does that clear it up?
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Post by duffy munn Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:32

The_Dude wrote:Simple answer Duff is recruiting. He has access to that top shelf talent MSU doesn't. Like Gary and DPJ for example.

There's a reason ever national champ since bcs era had top 10 classes. Oregon and MSU have proved you can win a ton of games but neither have yet to win it all. Ditto with Stanford, tcu, etc.

I thought you didn't follow recruiting.

And your Wolverines have had top ten classes for decades. They have one half of a national championship to show for it.

I guess this is all pre-Harbs. Will you go to the title game when your Messiah gets them there ?
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Aug 2016 - 23:32

The_Dude wrote:
DWags wrote:

So, could you explain your two positions to me then? Did we ahve enough speed in 13 to win it all, but Dantonio won't have enough speed to win it all. What exactly do you mean by those two statements?

He had it one year and blew the ND game. He will never field a D that good. And with the playoffs now, unlikely you'd see two teams as weak as FSU and Auburn were that year. Does that clear it up?

So, our main rival will bring in enough talent to win it all and you know for a fact we'll never field a defense as good as that? You're amazing.

How do you know, exactly we won't have a defense like that?

You can say two contradictory statements with in five or six posts of each other, and you have no problem. There is no discussion with you because you can't be taken seriously.
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