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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:44 am

I do not know the story behind any of this...


While serving as a United States prosecutor in Alabama, Mr. Sessions was nominated in 1986 by President Ronald Reagan for a federal judgeship. But his nomination was rejected by the Republican-controlled Senate Judiciary Committee because of racially charged comments and actions. At that time, he was one of two judicial nominees whose selections were halted by the panel in nearly 50 years.

In testimony before the committee, former colleagues said that Mr. Sessions had referred to the N.A.A.C.P., the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and other civil rights groups as “un-American” and “Communist-inspired.” An African-American federal prosecutor then, Thomas H. Figures, said Mr. Sessions had referred to him as “boy” and testified that Mr. Sessions said the Ku Klux Klan was fine “until I found out they smoked pot.” Mr. Sessions dismissed that remark as a joke.

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Post by P Rob Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:47 am

thanks for sharing, assface.

i didn't read about this on twitter hours ago.

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Post by Floyd Robertson Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:47 am

I don't think he was named AG yet. Did they hold a super secret confirmation session already?
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Post by P Rob Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:48 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:I don't think he was named AG yet. Did they hold a super secret confirmation session already?

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:57 am

so... the President-Elect - who was supported by the KKK - is considering a KKK sympathizer as Attorney General?

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:27 am

And once again the double standard is in effect.

KKK Grand Wizard Robert Byrd was a Great Senator and Great American according to Dems because his views had "changed".
And unlike Byrd, Sessions wasn't a KKK member much less a Grand Wizard.

Yet supposedly Jeff Sessions is frozen in time back in the 1980's.

Sen. Jeff Sessions could face tough Senate confirmation if a Trump Cabinet pick

Sessions was also criticized for joking in the presence of an attorney with the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division that the Ku Klux Klan was "OK" until he learned they smoked marijuana. During his confirmation hearing, he said his comment about the Klan "was a silly comment, I guess you might say, that I made."

Sessions told the committee he made the joke while his office was investigating the 1981 murder of Michael Donald, a black man who was kidnapped, beaten and killed by two Klansmen who slit his throat and then hanged his body in a tree in Mobile, Alabama. The two men were later arrested and convicted.

Sessions said he never meant the joke to suggest he supported the Klan. He said the joke was intended to convey that he thought it was "bizarre" that Klansmen had smoked marijuana after one of their meetings.

"All of us understood that the Klan is a force for hatred and bigotry and it just could not have meant anything else than that under those circumstances," Sessions said, noting that he had been involved in the decision to try one of the killers in state court so he could face the death penalty.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:34 am

LooseGoose wrote:And once again the double standard is in effect.

KKK Grand Wizard Robert Byrd was a Great Senator and Great American according to Dems because his views had "changed".
And unlike Byrd, Sessions wasn't a KKK member much less a Grand Wizard.

Yet supposedly Jeff Sessions is frozen in time back in the 1980's.

Sen. Jeff Sessions could face tough Senate confirmation if a Trump Cabinet pick

Sessions was also criticized for joking in the presence of an attorney with the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division that the Ku Klux Klan was "OK" until he learned they smoked marijuana. During his confirmation hearing, he said his comment about the Klan "was a silly comment, I guess you might say, that I made."

Sessions told the committee he made the joke while his office was investigating the 1981 murder of Michael Donald, a black man who was kidnapped, beaten and killed by two Klansmen who slit his throat and then hanged his body in a tree in Mobile, Alabama. The two men were later arrested and convicted.

Sessions said he never meant the joke to suggest he supported the Klan. He said the joke was intended to convey that he thought it was "bizarre" that Klansmen had smoked marijuana after one of their meetings.

"All of us understood that the Klan is a force for hatred and bigotry and it just could not have meant anything else than that under those circumstances," Sessions said, noting that he had been involved in the decision to try one of the killers in state court so he could face the death penalty.
I'm sorry that the KKK endorsed Trump and that you find it inconvenient.

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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:01 pm

P Rob wrote:thanks for sharing, assface.

i didn't read about this on twitter hours ago.

have we landed on the moon?

Fuck you.

Floyd Robertson wrote:I don't think he was named AG yet. Did they hold a super secret confirmation session already?

Good point. Poor thread title.

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Floyd Robertson wrote:I don't think he was named AG yet. Did they hold a super secret confirmation session already?

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:05 pm

Strange behavior for a racist KKK member. But then again Dems have always been about rhetoric not results.

In Alabama, Jeff Sessions Desegregated Schools and Got the Death Penalty for KKK Head

Sessions's actual track record certainly doesn't suggest he's a racist. Quite the opposite, in fact. As a U.S. Attorney he filed several cases to desegregate schools in Alabama. And he also prosecuted the head of the state Klan, Henry Francis Hays, for abducting and killing Michael Donald, a black teenager selected at random. Sessions insisted on the death penalty for Hays. When he was later elected the state Attorney General, Sessions followed through and made sure Hays was executed. The successful prosecution of Hays also led to a $7 million civil judgment against the Klan, effectively breaking the back of the KKK in Alabama. wrote:
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:08 pm

dems are wrong repubs are right

goose, curious, how long have you bought into this game? you have to be one of the oldest sheep around. doesn't it get tiring getting played like a fiddle?
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Post by NigelUno Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:46 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Strange behavior for a racist KKK member. But then again Dems have always been about rhetoric not results.


So, when will construction on the wall that Mexico's paying for start?
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:55 pm

NigelUno wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Strange behavior for a racist KKK member. But then again Dems have always been about rhetoric not results.


So, when will construction on the wall that Mexico's paying for start?

lol, swerve away.
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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:dems are wrong repubs are right

goose, curious, how long have you bought into this game? you have to be one of the oldest sheep around. doesn't it get tiring getting played like a fiddle?

You're a good kid most of the time, but you're an ass when you presume to be a man of wisdom telling me things.
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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:07 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:dems are wrong repubs are right

goose, curious, how long have you bought into this game? you have to be one of the oldest sheep around. doesn't it get tiring getting played like a fiddle?

You're a good kid most of the time, but you're an ass when you presume to be a man of wisdom telling me things.

Do you have a date for when you will be dispensing wisdom? I would like to be here. Thanks.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:25 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:dems are wrong repubs are right

goose, curious, how long have you bought into this game? you have to be one of the oldest sheep around. doesn't it get tiring getting played like a fiddle?

Dude, the thing with goose is that he's told you multiple times that the ONLY thing he cares about is making abortion illegal. As misguided and frankly, stupid, his opinion is regarding that issue, that's the only thing he cares about. He will do literally anything, and defend literally anything, to advance that cause. Everything else he says here is just for show.
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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:11 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:dems are wrong repubs are right

goose, curious, how long have you bought into this game? you have to be one of the oldest sheep around. doesn't it get tiring getting played like a fiddle?

Dude, the thing with goose is that he's told you multiple times that the ONLY thing he cares about is making abortion illegal. As misguided and frankly, stupid, his opinion is regarding that issue, that's the only thing he cares about. He will do literally anything, and defend literally anything, to advance that cause. Everything else he says here is just for show.

Why is his opinion stupid? Maybe you're opinion is stupid.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:15 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Dude, the thing with goose is that he's told you multiple times that the ONLY thing he cares about is making abortion illegal. As misguided and frankly, stupid, his opinion is regarding that issue, that's the only thing he cares about. He will do literally anything, and defend literally anything, to advance that cause. Everything else he says here is just for show.

Why is his opinion stupid? Maybe you're opinion is stupid.

His opinion is stupid because i agree with his end goal, but the way he tries to go about it is endlessly stupid. I wish we could try to accomplish his goal in the long run through rational means, but we can't when we have crazies like him running around diverting the conversation on insane goals that they shouldn't be focused on.
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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:29 pm

Would you kill baby Jar Jar?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:37 pm

Turtleneck wrote:Would you kill baby Jar Jar?

I mean....

But for real. Goose's goal is to end abortion but he and his ilk are convinced that the only way to do that is to make it illegal while at the same time blocking attempts to make birth control free and available. It's really pretty insane when you think about it. While a majority of people would think that abortion isn't really a good thing, they are too busy talking about how illegal it should be while the conversation needs to be about how to make it not necessary in the first place.
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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:09 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Would you kill baby Jar Jar?

I mean....

But for real. Goose's goal is to end abortion but he and his ilk are convinced that the only way to do that is to make it illegal while at the same time blocking attempts to make birth control free and available. It's really pretty insane when you think about it. While a majority of people would think that abortion isn't really a good thing, they are too busy talking about how illegal it should be while the conversation needs to be about how to make it not necessary in the first place.

Nice deflection. I guess we can't expect on answer on baby Jar Jar anytime soon.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:17 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

I mean....

But for real. Goose's goal is to end abortion but he and his ilk are convinced that the only way to do that is to make it illegal while at the same time blocking attempts to make birth control free and available. It's really pretty insane when you think about it. While a majority of people would think that abortion isn't really a good thing, they are too busy talking about how illegal it should be while the conversation needs to be about how to make it not necessary in the first place.

Nice deflection. I guess we can't expect on answer on baby Jar Jar anytime soon.

I would kill baby jar jar if it were 32 years postpartum.
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Post by Turtleneck Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:28 pm

That's adult Jar Jar, Travis.
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Post by xsanguine Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:21 pm

Why do you love the idea of killing babies, Travis?
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Post by InTenSity Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:40 am

xsanguine wrote:Why do you love the idea of killing babies, Travis?
Are you willing to have the state take care of these babies for 18 years? The view of caring about life until it breathes is pretty disingenuous.
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Post by GRR Spartan Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:57 am

If his past behavior is a predictor of what he will do as AG we can expect a return to tough prosecution of Federal marijuana laws.

Based on his comments and voting record I would expect to see Roe v Wade get kcked back to the states at a minimum.

There will be an end to Federal involvement challenging state voting laws.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:19 am

InTenSity wrote:
xsanguine wrote:Why do you love the idea of killing babies, Travis?
Are you willing to have the state take care of these babies for 18 years? The view of caring about life until it breathes is pretty disingenuous.

I am and have said so repeatedly. And have said I would support a tax increase if necessary. I can't imagine that anyone would prefer babies being put to death to save on their taxes. Ooops....maybe I can.
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Post by GRR Spartan Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:32 am

Based on what Trump said in the campaign and what the people he's appointed have previously said there are going to be a lot of "if necessary"  revenue increases and cutting of existing programs.

I can't wait to hear McConnell and Ryan justify deficit spending and unfunded programs or ask for additional revenue to pay for programs after 6 years of claiming to be fiscal conservatives.  

Magically the Federal debt no longer appears to be the biggest problem the country faces.  
What happened other than the Democrats losing the White House?
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:37 am

GRR Spartan wrote:Based on what Trump said in the campaign and what the people he's appointed have previously said there are going to be a lot of "if necessary"  revenue increases and cutting of existing programs.

I can't wait to hear McConnell and Ryan justify deficit spending and unfunded programs or ask for additional revenue to pay for programs after 6 years of claiming to be fiscal conservatives.  

Magically the Federal debt no longer appears to be the biggest problem the country faces.  
What happened other than the Democrats losing the White House?

It'll be interesting to see what happens vs speculation of what's going to happen. The Republicans not worrying about the deficit wouldn't be a shocker. One just needs to look at the Bush II years for that.
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Post by GRR Spartan Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:02 pm

A lot of the GOP and Trump supporters who are my neighbors call themselves fiscal conservative and label themselves pro-life.

They refused to consider the fact that the guy they voted for and was elected President has used his own version of deficit spending, refinancing and bankruptcies his entire business life isn't going to do a 180 and want to pay for everything.
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Post by xsanguine Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:04 pm

InTenSity wrote:
xsanguine wrote:Why do you love the idea of killing babies, Travis?
Are you willing to have the state take care of these babies for 18 years? The view of caring about life until it breathes is pretty disingenuous.

I'm a pro-choice guy... I just wanted to give Travis shit.
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Post by DWags Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:35 pm

xsanguine wrote:
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Are you willing to have the state take care of these babies for 18 years? The view of caring about life until it breathes is pretty disingenuous.

I'm a pro-choice guy... I just wanted to give Travis shit.

This is a good example of why I think you're a bit fucjed up. Like most thinkers of your persuasion
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:56 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
Are you willing to have the state take care of these babies for 18 years? The view of caring about life until it breathes is pretty disingenuous.

I am and have said so repeatedly. And have said I would support a tax increase if necessary. I can't imagine that anyone would prefer babies being put to death to save on their taxes. Ooops....maybe I can.

What about neither? Neither is an option if you'd let it be. But you won't. Because you have to feel righteous.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:08 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

I am and have said so repeatedly. And have said I would support a tax increase if necessary. I can't imagine that anyone would prefer babies being put to death to save on their taxes. Ooops....maybe I can.

What about neither? Neither is an option if you'd let it be. But you won't. Because you have to feel righteous.

Yeah, that's it. I campaign to save lives to feel righteous. What an ass I am.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:15 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

What about neither? Neither is an option if you'd let it be. But you won't. Because you have to feel righteous.

Yeah, that's it. I campaign to save lives to feel righteous. What an ass I am.

Look, if you spent your (and not your but you and your short sighted but well meaning ilk) millions upon millions of dollars on an effort to people not getting pregnant in the first place if they don't want to be then maybe you'd make a difference. But instead you are obsessed with a goal that is unrealistic, too soon, and massively dangerous.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:32 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Yeah, that's it. I campaign to save lives to feel righteous. What an ass I am.

Look, if you spent your (and not your but you and your short sighted but well meaning ilk) millions upon millions of dollars on an effort to people not getting pregnant in the first place if they don't want to be then maybe you'd make a difference. But instead you are obsessed with a goal that is unrealistic, too soon, and massively dangerous.

We disagree. I'm sorry for that but we do.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:03 am

LooseGoose wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Look, if you spent your (and not your but you and your short sighted but well meaning ilk) millions upon millions of dollars on an effort to people not getting pregnant in the first place if they don't want to be then maybe you'd make a difference. But instead you are obsessed with a goal that is unrealistic, too soon, and massively dangerous.

We disagree. I'm sorry for that but we do.

That's fine. I think it's good that we have the same goal in mind.... and really I think most people would agree with it. I just think we really need to think about how we need to go about it.
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Post by xsanguine Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:11 am

DWags wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

I'm a pro-choice guy... I just wanted to give Travis shit.

This is a good example of why I think you're a bit fucjed up.  Like most thinkers of your persuasion

You think I'm fucked up because I wanted to try and rustle his jimmies even though I agree with his end goal?

Like most thinkers of my persuasion? What does that even mean?


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Post by xsanguine Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:12 am

Upgrade your pampers, Dwags.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:36 am

You didn't rustle my jimmies xsang
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Post by xsanguine Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:39 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:You didn't rustle my jimmies xsang

I tried, Travis. Can't you at least give me a little credit for effort?
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