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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 09:29

kinda bizarre.. and the authorities seem to be pretty hush-hush about it. Though apparently someone was arrested.

figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.

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Post by Da Mayor 2017-01-23, 09:33

Robert J Sakimano wrote:kinda bizarre.. and the authorities seem to be pretty hush-hush about it. Though apparently someone was arrested.

figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.

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Post by SeeRockCity 2017-01-23, 10:40

Hey Bob,

So far, details are few and far between, however, a couple of things I can share from inside sources, apparently someone was arrested.

and based on what I'm hearing, I'm guessing either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 10:40

SeeRockCity wrote:Hey Bob,

So far, details are few and far between, however, a couple of things I can share from inside sources, apparently someone was arrested.

and based on what I'm hearing, I'm guessing either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.
yeah - that's kinda what I was thinking.

Thanks, man.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-01-23, 10:44

I just wanted to let you know that I'm safe bob.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2017-01-23, 10:45

Other than two people being involved, I'm not hearing anything.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 10:47

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I just wanted to let you know that I'm safe bob.
so am I.

I think.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 10:49

Floyd Robertson wrote:Other than two people being involved, I'm not hearing anything.
someone was arrested.. so that makes (at least) three people involved.

I'm guessing either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.



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Post by tGreenWay 2017-01-23, 11:01

Here in my little slice of heaven, WOTS is it's either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.
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Post by InTenSity 2017-01-23, 11:03

Down here in Miami. Can confirm, most likely drugs, then jealous SO.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 11:06

I think just to be safe, I'm gonna quit doing drugs and try to stay away form my jealous ex.

Just in case.

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Post by tGreenWay 2017-01-23, 11:09

InTenSity wrote:Down here in Miami. Can confirm, most likely drugs, then jealous SO.

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Post by DWags 2017-01-23, 11:23

eh, er, some of us have a kid on campus there, little more detail would be great
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Post by Guest 2017-01-23, 11:26

Robert J Sakimano wrote:kinda bizarre.. and the authorities seem to be pretty hush-hush about it. Though apparently someone was arrested.

figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.

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Even though two people are dead we can all be thankful it wasn't a hate crime.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 11:28

DWags wrote:eh, er, some of us have a kid on campus there, little more detail would be great
there truly isn't much being released..

it was at a house on Lake Lansing Road. The house right by the Subway at the big bend in the road - near the Quality Dairy.

so, not exactly close to campus - but still in East Lansing.

what has me perplexed is that often the authorities will issue a statement along the lines of "we don't believe this was a random incident and the public is not in danger at this time" - but they haven't said anything like that which makes me think that they don't know a whole lot.. and even with someone in custody, he/she might not be their suspect. Could just be someone who they think could possibly be involved.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 11:29

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:kinda bizarre.. and the authorities seem to be pretty hush-hush about it. Though apparently someone was arrested.

figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.

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Even though two people are dead we can all be thankful it wasn't a hate crime.
yeah - I'm figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.
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Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:eh, er, some of us have a kid on campus there, little more detail would be great
there truly isn't much being released..

it was at a house on Lake Lansing Road. The house right by the Subway at the big bend in the road - near the Quality Dairy.

so, not exactly close to campus - but still in East Lansing.

what has me perplexed is that often the authorities will issue a statement along the lines of "we don't believe this was a random incident and the public is not in danger at this time" - but they haven't said anything like that which makes me think that they don't know a whole lot.. and even with someone in custody, he/she might not be their suspect. Could just be someone who they think could possibly be involved.


They've released the names and arrested someone long ago....how much more do you need right away?

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 11:49

LooseGoose wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:there truly isn't much being released..

it was at a house on Lake Lansing Road. The house right by the Subway at the big bend in the road - near the Quality Dairy.

so, not exactly close to campus - but still in East Lansing.

what has me perplexed is that often the authorities will issue a statement along the lines of "we don't believe this was a random incident and the public is not in danger at this time" - but they haven't said anything like that which makes me think that they don't know a whole lot.. and even with someone in custody, he/she might not be their suspect. Could just be someone who they think could possibly be involved.


They've released the names and arrested someone long ago....how much more do you need right away?

Man arrested in double homicide at home near Lansing
more than that.

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Post by tGreenWay 2017-01-23, 13:19

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:eh, er, some of us have a kid on campus there, little more detail would be great
there truly isn't much being released..

it was at a house on Lake Lansing Road. The house right by the Subway at the big bend in the road - near the Quality Dairy.

so, not exactly close to campus - but still in East Lansing.

what has me perplexed is that often the authorities will issue a statement along the lines of "we don't believe this was a random incident and the public is not in danger at this time" - but they haven't said anything like that which makes me think that they don't know a whole lot.. and even with someone in custody, he/she might not be their suspect. Could just be someone who they think could possibly be involved.



It's not East Lansing, it's Meridian Twp., which is why there are only a few details released. They'd sooner bite off their tongues than talk to news orgs. Been that way for years.
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tGreenWay wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:there truly isn't much being released..

it was at a house on Lake Lansing Road. The house right by the Subway at the big bend in the road - near the Quality Dairy.

so, not exactly close to campus - but still in East Lansing.

what has me perplexed is that often the authorities will issue a statement along the lines of "we don't believe this was a random incident and the public is not in danger at this time" - but they haven't said anything like that which makes me think that they don't know a whole lot.. and even with someone in custody, he/she might not be their suspect. Could just be someone who they think could possibly be involved.



It's not East Lansing, it's Meridian Twp., which is why there are only a few details released. They'd sooner bite off their tongues than talk to news orgs. Been that way for years.
yeah, I know it's technically Meridian Township - but it's between Abbot and Hagadorn.. on Lake Lansing Road. Not like it's out in Okemos, etc.

but I know what you're saying.

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Post by SeeRockCity 2017-01-23, 13:43

MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — A man has been arrested in the deaths of two people at a home near Lansing.

Meridian Township police say the arrest was made Saturday night, hours after officers discovered the bodies of 48-year-old Jeff Ballor and 46-year-old Kristin Pangman. Their deaths are considered homicides.

The suspect’s name and other details weren’t released Sunday. Police say the man will be in court Tuesday.

Neighbors are reacting to the news. Melissa Osborn is shocked, saying “you just don’t really expect something like that to happen.”

In a statement to the public, detective Mike Belsarus told reporters that they are currently figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.
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Post by Guest 2017-01-23, 13:50

Robert J Sakimano wrote:figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.

SeeRockCity wrote:In a statement to the public, detective Mike Belsarus told reporters that they are currently figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.

At least now we know who Bob is.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 14:10

SeeRockCity wrote:MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — A man has been arrested in the deaths of two people at a home near Lansing.

Meridian Township police say the arrest was made Saturday night, hours after officers discovered the bodies of 48-year-old Jeff Ballor and 46-year-old Kristin Pangman. Their deaths are considered homicides.

The suspect’s name and other details weren’t released Sunday. Police say the man will be in court Tuesday.

Neighbors are reacting to the news. Melissa Osborn is shocked, saying “you just don’t really expect something like that to happen.”

In a statement to the public, detective Mike Belsarus told reporters that they are currently figuring either drugs or a jealous boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passion type thing.
that's what I was thinking, too.

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Post by goodbar 2017-01-23, 14:19

I'm guessing either jealous drugs, ex-passion, etc or boyfriend/ex-boyfriend crime of husband type thing.

or drugs.
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Post by goodbar 2017-01-23, 14:20

the other thing it could be are ex-passionate drug husbands.
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Post by MattyFresh 2017-01-23, 15:09

I think this is my neighbors daughter. Pretty sad. He's a nice old man.


That being said, I am figuring this is a drugs or jealous boyfriend/ex boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passing type thing. Or a drug passion ex etc type thing
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-23, 15:14

MattyFresh wrote:I think this is my neighbors daughter. Pretty sad. He's a nice old man.


That being said, I am figuring this is a drugs or jealous boyfriend/ex boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passing type thing. Or a drug passion ex etc type thing
I'm right there with ya.

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Post by tGreenWay 2017-01-23, 15:33

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MattyFresh wrote:I think this is my neighbors daughter. Pretty sad. He's a nice old man.


That being said, I am figuring this is a drugs or jealous boyfriend/ex boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passing type thing. Or a drug passion ex etc type thing
I'm right there with ya.


Goodbar seems to be the outlier. Goodbar is stoopid.
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Post by SeeRockCity 2017-01-23, 16:11

tGreenWay wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
MattyFresh wrote:I think this is my neighbors daughter. Pretty sad. He's a nice old man.


That being said, I am figuring this is a drugs or jealous boyfriend/ex boyfriend, ex-husband, etc - crime of passing type thing. Or a drug passion ex etc type thing
I'm right there with ya.


Goodbar seems to be the outlier. Goodbar is stoopid.

But an excellent lover.
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SeeRockCity wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Goodbar seems to be the outlier. Goodbar is stoopid.

But an excellent lover.

Sure, once you get past the smell.
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Post by Izzo Court 2017-01-23, 17:35

I willing to bet they died during a duel.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2017-01-24, 11:40

East Lansing man, 26, charged in weekend homicides

MASON - Police found the Meridian Township man who they allege stabbed two people to death "covered in blood" and in possession of the victim's gun, a detective testified.

Manuel Pena, 26, was charged Tuesday morning with six charges, including two counts of murder, in connection with the deaths of Jeffrey Ballor, 48, of East Lansing and Kristin Pangman, 46, of Lansing. He faces up to life in prison if convicted.
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Floyd Robertson wrote:East Lansing man, 26, charged in weekend homicides

MASON - Police found the Meridian Township man who they allege stabbed two people to death "covered in blood" and in possession of the victim's gun, a detective testified.

Manuel Pena, 26, was charged Tuesday morning with six charges, including two counts of murder, in connection with the deaths of Jeffrey Ballor, 48, of East Lansing and Kristin Pangman, 46, of Lansing. He faces up to life in prison if convicted.
that's kinda what we all were thinking.

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Post by Izzo Court 2017-01-24, 12:45

Police found the Meridian Township man who they allege stabbed two people to death "covered in blood" and in possession of the victim's gun, a detective testified.

So he took a knife to a gun fight and won.
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Post by goodbar 2017-01-25, 11:16

Izzo Court wrote:
Police found the Meridian Township man who they allege stabbed two people to death "covered in blood" and in possession of the victim's gun, a detective testified.

So he took a knife to a gun fight and won.

when you're an etc crime boyfriend and you're passionate about drugs anything is possible.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-25, 12:34

someone at the EL hoops game last night told me that the victims didn't die immediately and were able to call 911... obviously too late to save them. Wondering, though, what the relationship was (if any) between the two victims and the dude.

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Post by MattyFresh 2017-01-25, 12:43

Robert J Sakimano wrote:someone at the EL hoops game last night told me that the victims didn't die immediately and were able to call 911... obviously too late to save them. Wondering, though, what the relationship was (if any) between the two victims and the dude.


It actually is my neighbors daughter, and it sounds like the dude was possibly a drug user/purchaser with/from them.  I feel bad, the old guy is a really nice, retired professor that keeps his yard in great shape. I think his wife has been in really bad condition for like 10 years (wheelchair, a lot of hospital trips, etc).  His daughter (the departed) had moved here just in the last year.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2017-01-25, 12:45

MattyFresh wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:someone at the EL hoops game last night told me that the victims didn't die immediately and were able to call 911... obviously too late to save them. Wondering, though, what the relationship was (if any) between the two victims and the dude.


It actually is my neighbors daughter, and it sounds like the dude was possibly a drug user/purchaser with/from them.  I feel bad, the old guy is a really nice, retired professor that keeps his yard in great shape. I think his wife has been in really bad condition for like 10 years (wheelchair, a lot of hospital trips, etc).  His daughter (the departed) had moved here just in the last year.
yuck - that sucks.

word on the street is that the alleged killer went to East Lansing HS years ago.. was a bit strange, odd - never fit in, etc - you never expect anyone to do something like this, obviously.. but, in retrospect, the person I spoke with whose daughter was in HS with him said she wasn't shocked.
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