How Is Trumpcare Coming Along?

Meanwhile, on the White House lawn today, the president was busy having fun with the big trucks making them go "honk honk!"

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Meanwhile, on the White House lawn today, the president was busy having fun with the big trucks making them go "honk honk!"

True man of the people. Really scares the libs that big government professional lying politicians aren't in control anymore.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Meanwhile, on the White House lawn today, the president was busy having fun with the big trucks making them go "honk honk!"

His hands really are small.

Trump's Dukakis moment.

Looks like a kid in a Big Wheel ad.

Trump gives an ultimatum proving all he cares about is perception.

Trump gives ultimatum on health care bill: Vote Friday or keep Obamacare

So, about that ultimatum...

from what I read, it's not looking good for Trumpcare.. probably nothing, though, that the sexual predator can't fix with a 2 million dollar golf vacation this weekend.

Weird. CNN's website is reporting TrumpCare is in trouble and FoxNews website is focused on Nunes.

This ultimatum is going to be incredibly humiliating for Trump.

Spicey is acting like he's at a funeral.

Trumpcare need a bit of Obama care?

Are they going to extend the voting day into Monday ?The Congressional calendar shows voting starts @ 6:30 PM this Monday. That would give The White House about 70 more hours to find the votes they need.

3:30 vote. If it fails Trump is soooo blaming Ryan.

GRR Spartan wrote:Are they going to extend the voting day into Monday ?The Congressional calendar shows voting starts @ 6:30 PM this Monday. That would give The White House about 70 more hours to find the votes they need.

Trump gave an ultimatum. They are voting today.

Guess it will come down to who of the 35 GOP holdouts fear the loss of Koch election funds more than the wrath of The White House.

the thing that makes me laugh (in a pathetic way) the most about republican opposition to Trumpcare is that it's not cruel enough to women or poor people.

Just wondering, does anyone on this board think that the Trumpcare bill is a good thing?

Aaaaand... the vote has been cancelled again. Maybe Monday Trump will be super duper serious about a vote.

Trump now wants bill pulled.

These guys are ass clowns.

DWags wrote:Trump now wants bill pulled.

These guys are ass clowns.

Maybe some golf down at Mar-A-Largo will clear his mind.

Goose, your president is in way over his head here.

Per Fox News' Jake Gibson:

A GOP leadership aide tells Fox News President Trump asked Ryan to pull the bill at 3p.m. today while Ryan was at the White House.

DWags wrote:Trump now wants bill pulled.

These guys are ass clowns.

It's not real estate.  You don't give an ultimatum/final offer unless you know what the result will be.

Rumor has it that more GOP reps were going to switch their vote to no. Better to keep your base happy than vote yes on a loser.

Trump is a "closer".

Speaker Ryan said he was going to blink and President Trump please do so. Then we can continue to bitch about "Obamacare"

I think my rep came out and said she was going to vote against repeal. With the average age in the district probably 60+ and many seniors, it was probably a bad idea to vote against their best interest. My rep is republican, but I'm guessing she's somewhat more moderate.

I don't what sounds more naive
Ryan saying it's hard to pass things when your party is in the majority or President Trump's declaration that rewriting Healthcare legislation is really complicated.

Already Pelosi is celebrating. The dems would be best to sit back and not gloat on this one. Let the republicans bury themselves, don't stand there and point. Its not that hard to do.

InTenSity wrote:Already Pelosi is celebrating. The dems would be best to sit back and not gloat on this one. Let the republicans bury themselves, don't stand there and point. Its not that hard to do.

No shit. ACA could use some tweaks, but it sounds like Trump and company is going to just give up.

Ummm...Donald?

You don't need the Democrats to pass a bill. Get your own shit together.

Didn't Trump promise to repeal Obamacare on Day One?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/24/trump-blames-democrats-for-gop-health-care-bill-failure-says-obamacare-is-imploding.html

The man is delusional.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

InTenSity wrote:Already Pelosi is celebrating. The dems would be best to sit back and not gloat on this one. Let the republicans bury themselves, don't stand there and point. Its not that hard to do.

No shit. ACA could use some tweaks, but it sounds like Trump and company is going to just give up.

"Could use some tweeks" LMFAO!!!

Let's not forget, Obamacare was designed to fail and it will. Those that created it ultimately wanted single payer. I don't know if that will be the outcome (I hope not) but Obamacare will fail and need to be replaced. Trump care is not the answer either because both plans allow people to join without considering pre-existing conditions. So when only the current, extreme sick who need health insurance are the ones signing up the model can't work. It's based on healthy people buying in when there is no reason for them to do so till they are seriously ill. It crashes upon itself.

So cheesy , who pays for your health care or better put what portion of the total bill do you pay and what 's your family's total deductible?

I can't figure gure out why "conservatives" have an issue with requiring providers to pay 85% of their premiums to settle claims and think there should be an ala carte including letting providers deny coverage.

CheesySpartan wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

No shit. ACA could use some tweaks, but it sounds like Trump and company is going to just give up.

"Could use some tweeks" LMFAO!!!

Let's not forget, Obamacare was designed to fail and it will. Those that created it ultimately wanted single payer. I don't know if that will be the outcome (I hope not) but Obamacare will fail and need to be replaced. Trump care is not the answer either because both plans allow people to join without considering pre-existing conditions. So when only the current, extreme sick who need health insurance are the ones signing up the model can't work. It's based on healthy people buying in when there is no reason for them to do so till they are seriously ill. It crashes upon itself.

What's your genius plan for health care that literally no other country in the world has figured out if you don't think socialized health care or some sort of hybrid is the answer?

I constantly hear Republicans I know tell me how shitty socialized health care is, yet not a single one of them has ever proposed any actual solution. Whatcha got Cheesy?

CheesySpartan wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

No shit. ACA could use some tweaks, but it sounds like Trump and company is going to just give up.

"Could use some tweeks" LMFAO!!!

Let's not forget, Obamacare was designed to fail and it will.  Those that created it ultimately wanted single payer.  I don't know if that will be the outcome (I hope not) but Obamacare will fail and need to be replaced.  Trump care is not the answer either because both plans allow people to join without considering pre-existing conditions.  So when only the current, extreme sick who need health insurance are the ones signing up the model can't work.  It's based on healthy people buying in when there is no reason for them to do so till they are seriously ill.  It crashes upon itself.

Dude, I can only take so much partisan hackery. So pretty please, shut up.

Ok, saying shut up might have been a bit harsh. Same question as above though, instead of bitching, what do you propose we do instead?

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

"Could use some tweeks" LMFAO!!!

Let's not forget, Obamacare was designed to fail and it will.  Those that created it ultimately wanted single payer.  I don't know if that will be the outcome (I hope not) but Obamacare will fail and need to be replaced.  Trump care is not the answer either because both plans allow people to join without considering pre-existing conditions.  So when only the current, extreme sick who need health insurance are the ones signing up the model can't work.  It's based on healthy people buying in when there is no reason for them to do so till they are seriously ill.  It crashes upon itself.

Dude, I can only take so much partisan hackery. So pretty please, shut up.

Ok, saying shut up might have been a bit harsh. Same question as above though, instead of bitching, what do you propose we do instead?

I don't give a shit about partisan politics...I care about FACTS. So again...PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS...if the plan allows them no matter what it can't work...kinda simple...It was the key to Obamacare failing and the idiots who did Trumpcare didn't solve it. They put a 30% penalty on it. That won't work either.

Pre-existing needs to be a factor or it can not work.

CheesySpartan wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Dude, I can only take so much partisan hackery. So pretty please, shut up.

Ok, saying shut up might have been a bit harsh. Same question as above though, instead of bitching, what do you propose we do instead?

I don't give a shit about partisan politics...I care about FACTS. So again...PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS...if the plan allows them no matter what it can't work...kinda simple...It was the key to Obamacare failing and the idiots who did Trumpcare didn't solve it. They put a 30% penalty on it. That won't work either.

Pre-existing needs to be a factor or it can not work.

My bad. I'm used to dealing with Goose and went off. My apologies.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

I don't give a shit about partisan politics...I care about FACTS. So again...PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS...if the plan allows them no matter what it can't work...kinda simple...It was the key to Obamacare failing and the idiots who did Trumpcare didn't solve it. They put a 30% penalty on it. That won't work either.

Pre-existing needs to be a factor or it can not work.

My bad. I'm used to dealing with Goose and went off. My apologies.

Cheesy is a fucking dumbass, you should never apologize for assuming that he's talking out of his ass.

Hilliary needs to stop tweeting and disappear
She lost, they can go away now. Really her smirk doesn't help.

DWags wrote:Hilliary needs to stop tweeting and disappear
She lost, they can go away now. Really her smirk doesn't help.

Who?

Anyways...I think Trump's mistake was thinking he could arm twist (and threaten) the Freedom Caucus/Tea Party guys. He screwed himself with that. They basically told him to piss off. But, he realizes he'll need them for other legislation, so he blamed the Democrats.

And Trump will have a hard time with his comment about the Democrats owning Obamacare. He said he would repeal it and come up with a better plan. He didn't. He owns it now.