Gut feeling: do you believe there will be an impeachment?

by **DWags** 17/05/17, 07:43 am

Yes or no?

by **Floyd Robertson** 17/05/17, 07:51 am

Unfortunately, no.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 17/05/17, 08:07 am

Before yesterday, not really. Now? 50/50. If the house flips power to the democrats in 2018, 90/10. Or maybe Trump will stop treating his position like he's a casino owner by then. Gut feeling: do you believe there will be an impeachment? 2599972566

Gut feeling: do you believe there will be an impeachment? 2599972566

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 08:11 am

depends - does the sexual predator have an email account?

by **GRR Spartan** 17/05/17, 09:05 am

Trump gets a door to leave. He can use his health which is doubtful. The GOP still tolerates him and they control all three branches. They are raising money as is Trumps campaign as the victim party again.

by **InTenSity** 17/05/17, 09:12 am

Nope. Party over country. Disgusting actually.

by **NigelUno** 17/05/17, 09:21 am

Depends on Comey's testimony. I don't think an obstructing justice charge could be brought just based on what has been said so far.

But, when you combine it with Trump firing Comey...maybe.

Comey would have to light him up when he testifies. If he does, it's open season.

by **DWags** 17/05/17, 09:23 am

NigelUno wrote:Depends on Comey's testimony. I don't think an obstructing justice charge could be brought just based on what has been said so far.

But, when you combine it with Trump firing Comey...maybe.

Comey would have to light him up when he testifies. If he does, it's open season.

He said he said if it's a memo. No way it can be used to impeach

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 17/05/17, 10:16 am

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333781-dem-lawmaker-will-call-for-trumps-impeachment-on-house-floor

Symbolic gesture at this point. I really don't get it. Let's hear from Comey 1st. I guess it does put Ryan in a tricky spot. Does he allow the vote and make all the R's vote no and have them on record "putting party over country"?

by **NigelUno** 17/05/17, 10:20 am

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Depends on Comey's testimony. I don't think an obstructing justice charge could be brought just based on what has been said so far.

But, when you combine it with Trump firing Comey...maybe.

Comey would have to light him up when he testifies. If he does, it's open season.

He said he said if it's a memo. No way it can be used to impeach

Comey is going to testify though.

Although I think an FBI memo can be used as evidence. I think there is some precedent for that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/president-trump-should-be-very-afraid-of-james-comeys-memos/?utm_term=.2dc51613a579

"As the New York Times notes, these memos “are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.” The Times pointed to that famous incident back during the George W. Bush administration when Comey testified that there had been a race to reach the bedside of an ill Attorney General John Ashcroft as the FBI and senior White House officials fought over warrantless wiretapping. When the White House disputed Comey's version, then-FBI Director Robert Mueller's contemporaneous notes were used as confirmation."

by **Rocinante** 17/05/17, 10:24 am

It depends on what happens in next year. If the house turns, articles of impeachment will be drafted and he will be impeached. But that doesn't mean removed from office or even convicted. The required supermajority to do that is not feasible right now. Things could change and he could go all Mussolini and get enough Rs on board. More likely the current investigations will drum up enough dirt that he'll find a reason to resign. I think if he had an excuse that would hold water he'd do it now.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 10:37 am

Yes.

His support is cracking and he's too unhinged for the job. Once he loses support of Repubs in congress he's toast.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 10:39 am

steveschneider wrote:Yes.

His support is cracking and he's too unhinged for the job. Once he loses support of Repubs in congress he's toast.

he's not losing their support.

They're just hearing from constituents that make them question how faithful they should be to the sexual predator. They support everything he's done and continues to do - but they also want to retain their power, money and mistresses/girlfriends next November.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 10:53 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Yes.

His support is cracking and he's too unhinged for the job. Once he loses support of Repubs in congress he's toast.

he's not losing their support.

They're just hearing from constituents that make them question how faithful they should be to the sexual predator. They support everything he's done and continues to do - but they also want to retain their power, money and mistresses/girlfriends next November.

Not yet, but I think it will happen. Chaffetz subpoenaing the Comey letter and McCain comparing this to Watergate might open the door for more. The Comey firing and the latest Russia gaffe in the Oval Office had to of unnerved a lot in the Repub side. I constantly read behind closed doors they are expressing a lot of concern. All of this damage he is doing to his presidency is self inflicted. I think it's just a matter of time...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/14/us/politics/trump-republican-senators.html?_r=0

by **Death Roe** 17/05/17, 11:01 am

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 11:02 am

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:he's not losing their support.

They're just hearing from constituents that make them question how faithful they should be to the sexual predator. They support everything he's done and continues to do - but they also want to retain their power, money and mistresses/girlfriends next November.

Not yet, but I think it will happen. Chaffetz subpoenaing the Comey letter and McCain comparing this to Watergate might open the door for more. The Comey firing and the latest Russia gaffe in the Oval Office had to of unnerved a lot in the Repub side. I constantly read behind closed doors they are expressing a lot of concern. All of this damage he is doing to his presidency is self inflicted. I think it's just a matter of time...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/14/us/politics/trump-republican-senators.html?_r=0

an immoral sleaze like Chaffetz might use his sudden sense of ethics and morality to promote his next career. We'll see.

I have no faith in McCain - he'll do his usual round on the mainstream media circuit.. with a furled brow talking about how concerned he is.. maybe do the "tsk tsk" thing with the sexual predator and take away his TV time.. but he's proven over and over again that he's nothing but a lapdog.

by **DWags** 17/05/17, 11:28 am

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:

He said he said if it's a memo. No way it can be used to impeach

Comey is going to testify though.

Although I think an FBI memo can be used as evidence. I think there is some precedent for that.

Oh I believe Comey. I'm talking about getting republicans to vote
On it.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:31 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Not yet, but I think it will happen. Chaffetz subpoenaing the Comey letter and McCain comparing this to Watergate might open the door for more. The Comey firing and the latest Russia gaffe in the Oval Office had to of unnerved a lot in the Repub side. I constantly read behind closed doors they are expressing a lot of concern. All of this damage he is doing to his presidency is self inflicted. I think it's just a matter of time...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/14/us/politics/trump-republican-senators.html?_r=0
an immoral sleaze like Chaffetz might use his sudden sense of ethics and morality to promote his next career. We'll see.

I have no faith in McCain - he'll do his usual round on the mainstream media circuit.. with a furled brow talking about how concerned he is.. maybe do the "tsk tsk" thing with the sexual predator and take away his TV time.. but he's proven over and over again that he's nothing but a lapdog.

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 17/05/17, 11:33 am

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
an immoral sleaze like Chaffetz might use his sudden sense of ethics and morality to promote his next career. We'll see.

I have no faith in McCain - he'll do his usual round on the mainstream media circuit.. with a furled brow talking about how concerned he is.. maybe do the "tsk tsk" thing with the sexual predator and take away his TV time.. but he's proven over and over again that he's nothing but a lapdog.

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Not if you only watch Fox News. Then you hear none of that. Which circles back to why his support isn't really eroding... he has his own news network to protect him and a solid 30% of the country is intodctrinated by it.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 11:35 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Not if you only watch Fox News. Then you hear none of that. Which circles back to why his support isn't really eroding... he has his own news network to protect him and a solid 30% of the country is intodctrinated by it.

I just listened to about 2 minutes of right wing hate radio.. they were really, really upset with not only Hillary.. but also Barack Obama.

Gut feeling: do you believe there will be an impeachment? 502811600

Gut feeling: do you believe there will be an impeachment? 502811600

by **DWags** 17/05/17, 11:35 am

steveschneider wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
an immoral sleaze like Chaffetz might use his sudden sense of ethics and morality to promote his next career. We'll see.

I have no faith in McCain - he'll do his usual round on the mainstream media circuit.. with a furled brow talking about how concerned he is.. maybe do the "tsk tsk" thing with the sexual predator and take away his TV time.. but he's proven over and over again that he's nothing but a lapdog.

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:41 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

Devos was like the Bobby Williams hire.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 11:41 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

judging from how incredibly dumb she is, she seems to hate schools, in general.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:42 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

Devos was like the Bobby Williams hire.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 11:42 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

judging from how incredibly dumb she is, she seems to hate schools, in general.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:43 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

Devos was like the Bobby Williams hire.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 11:43 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

judging from how incredibly dumb she is, she seems to hate schools, in general.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:44 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

Devos was like the Bobby Williams hire.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 11:44 am

DWags wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Think about the Devos hire. She hates public schools.

judging from how incredibly dumb she is, she seems to hate schools, in general.

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:48 am

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Perhaps, but I think the door is opened for more people to come out against him. All you hear about is shouting and infighting in the Whitehouse. Also, the secrets he spilled in the WH to his Russian comrades came from Israel and I'm assuming they were less than thrilled with that.

It's clear he's unfit for the job. This is on par with the John L. Smith hire.

Not if you only watch Fox News. Then you hear none of that. Which circles back to why his support isn't really eroding... he has his own news network to protect him and a solid 30% of the country is intodctrinated by it.

Fox news ratings are taking a hit. Tucker has half the ratings of O'reilly. The big question is who will go first Tucker or Trump?

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 11:51 am

Justin Amash just said if the Comey letter is legit it is an impeachable offense.

These are unpresidented statements for the Trump administration.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 17/05/17, 11:53 am

steveschneider wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Not if you only watch Fox News. Then you hear none of that. Which circles back to why his support isn't really eroding... he has his own news network to protect him and a solid 30% of the country is intodctrinated by it.

Fox news ratings are taking a hit. Tucker has half the ratings of O'reilly. The big question is who will go first Tucker or Trump?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 17/05/17, 12:19 pm

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Fox news ratings are taking a hit. Tucker has half the ratings of O'reilly. The big question is who will go first Tucker or Trump?

love Bill Maher - I know he upsets a lot of right wing snowflakes, but he is almost always right on point.

by **Floyd Robertson** 17/05/17, 12:22 pm

Senate Intel makes formal request of Comey.

https://twitter.com/marykbruce/status/864877611712999424

by **steveschneider** 17/05/17, 01:46 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:Senate Intel makes formal request of Comey.

https://twitter.com/marykbruce/status/864877611712999424

Read the finance pages today. Talks about impeachment are circling around Wall Street and the question is coming up how will the market react.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 17/05/17, 01:49 pm

steveschneider wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:Senate Intel makes formal request of Comey.

https://twitter.com/marykbruce/status/864877611712999424

Read the finance pages today. Talks about impeachment are circling around Wall Street and the question is coming up how will the market react.

S&P 500 is down 1.32% today, so I'm going to guess not well.

by **MiamiSpartan** 17/05/17, 05:58 pm

I think that Republicans will turn on him at some point if things continue to come out. They're going to watch the mood in their districts. You can say what you want about the blind base, but in battleground districts, the Republican base isn't going to be enough to win you an election by themselves (or else it wouldn't be a battleground district). They're going to need those neutrals. As things stand now, they will need Trump's support in the midterms. But that's still 18 months away. That's a LOT of time for more issues with Trump to pile up, especially at the pace he's going. Ultimately, the Republicans, especially in those battleground districts, are going to go whichever way the wind is blowing 18 months from now.

Of course, if those winds become a gale, I don't think they'll hesitate to jump ship on Trump sooner. If it gets bad enough where he resigns, and they stuck by him, they're fucked in the midterm. For now, the storm can still be weathered. But it seems unlikely that there is a calm on the horizon, and more likely that these are just the outer bands of a massive hurricane.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 18/05/17, 07:51 am

DWags wrote:Yes or no?

Hey DWags,

It's me.. Bobby Sak. I hope your morning is going well. Can I give a serious answer that's not necessarily "yes" or "no"?

Thanks.

Your Pal,

Bobby Sak

by **DWags** 18/05/17, 08:58 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:Yes or no?

Hey DWags,

It's me.. Bobby Sak. I hope your morning is going well. Can I give a serious answer that's not necessarily "yes" or "no"?

Thanks.

Your Pal,

Bobby Sak

Dear Bob,

Thanks for the response on 5/18 you sent me via electronic media. It's always great hearing from you. I hope this finds you well and prosperous.

To answer your question, no you can't. It has to be a yes or no answer.

Sincerely,

DWags

by **Robert J Sakimano** 18/05/17, 10:09 am

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Hey DWags,

It's me.. Bobby Sak. I hope your morning is going well. Can I give a serious answer that's not necessarily "yes" or "no"?

Thanks.

Your Pal,

Bobby Sak

Dear Bob,

Thanks for the response on 5/18 you sent me via electronic media. It's always great hearing from you. I hope this finds you well and prosperous.

To answer your question, no you can't. It has to be a yes or no answer.

Sincerely,

DWags

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