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Post by Turtleneck 2017-06-28, 18:07

Evan McMullin is a conservative from Utah. Here is his bio:


https://standuprepublic.com/about-us

Evan started his career with the Central Intelligence Agency in 1999. He spent much of his service overseas as a clandestine operations officer running counter-terrorism and traditional intelligence operations. After over a decade with the Agency, Evan joined Goldman Sachs’s Investment Banking Division in San Francisco where he worked on a variety of strategic and capital raising projects in the industrial, consumer products, technology, and other industries.

In 2013, Evan returned to government service, first as a senior advisor to the Foreign Affairs Committee and then as chief policy director to the Republican Conference, in the House of Representatives where he led national security, government reform, natural resources, and veterans’ healthcare initiatives.

In August 2016, Evan announced his candidacy for President of the United States as an independent conservative, attracting support for his principled defense of liberty, equality, and the Constitution. Evan selected Mindy Finn as his running mate and, after winning 21.5% of the vote in Utah, their three-month presidential campaign became one of the most successful third-party candidacies in U.S. history.

Leading Stand Up Republic with Mindy, Evan continues to defend the Constitution, democracy, and the timeless truths upon which our nation was founded at a time when they are under increasing threat.

McMullin is no fan of Trump. I believe Trump cleverly refers to him as McMuffin. Because he is anti-Trump, he is popular among liberals and Democrats. I suppose it is an "enemy of my enemy" thing (but liberals and democrats forget they would certainly not be playing nice with each other absent Trump)

This thread is for McMullin's tweets and commentary about Trump, plus other comments from conservatives also opposed to Trump. McMullin is a good follow on Twitter, as is Amanda Carpenter.
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Evan McMullin‏Verified account @Evan_McMullin  8h8 hours ago
I reject the notion that I must, for some temporary advantage, support a President who abrades the safeguards of my liberty.

Evan McMullin‏Verified account @Evan_McMullin  8h8 hours ago
Real leaders don't use state power to threaten the free press. This is America!

The above tweet regarding "state power" was in response to Trump's earlier weird, kind of nonsensical tweet, about the Washington Post.

Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump
The #AmazonWashingtonPost, sometimes referred to as the guardian of Amazon not paying internet taxes (which they should) is FAKE NEWS!
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Post by Tim Wakefield 2017-06-28, 18:37

Strongly anti-Trump conservative checking in Evan McMullin's tweets and comments about Trump (plus other comments from anti-Trump conservatives) 261d

And no Goose, that doesn't mean I voted for Hillary or wanted her to be President
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Post by Guest 2017-06-28, 19:07

McMullin is/was a nobody dork the media built up, he's too stupid to realize that his 15 minutes was up long ago.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-06-28, 19:21

LooseGoose wrote:McMullin is/was a nobody dork the media built up, he's too stupid to realize that his 15 minutes was up long ago.

Predictable response.

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Post by Guest 2017-06-28, 19:26

Turtleneck wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:McMullin is/was a nobody dork the media built up, he's too stupid to realize that his 15 minutes was up long ago.

Predictable response.

Thank you for your amazing contribution to this thread.

Tell me what else he is? That can be your amazing contribution.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-06-29, 09:40

Trump is a pussy grabbing dork the media built up too.

Got any other scintillating examples of people whose accomplishments have built up by the media?
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Post by Guest 2017-06-29, 16:16

Crickets on what McMullin is other than a brand of political streaker.

Gets 20% of the vote in one state, finishes 3rd there and now somehow he means something?

Was a nobody, is a nobody.
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-06-29, 16:54

LooseGoose wrote:Crickets on what McMullin is other than a brand of political streaker.

Gets 20% of the vote in one state, finishes 3rd there and now somehow he means something?

Was a nobody, is a nobody.

He's not allowed to speak his mind? Sorry he's not toeing the party line, but somebody has to tell the king he's wearing no clothes. It takes one person to stand up and say enough. Maybe some of the political sheep will take notice and do what's right for Country and, by extension, Party. Right now, those same sheep are only bleating the party line for the sake of the Party--America be damned.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2017-06-29, 17:21

tGreenWay wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Crickets on what McMullin is other than a brand of political streaker.

Gets 20% of the vote in one state, finishes 3rd there and now somehow he means something?

Was a nobody, is a nobody.

He's not allowed to speak his mind? Sorry he's not toeing the party line, but somebody has to tell the king he's wearing no clothes. It takes one person to stand up and say enough. Maybe some of the political sheep will take notice and do what's right for Country and, by extension, Party. Right now, those same sheep are only bleating the party line for the sake of the Party--America be damned.

The guy has 351k twitter followers, so somebody is listening.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-06-29, 17:22

As much as VP Pence scares me I am confident Mrs. Pence only allow a tweet like Trump's once before she would put the hammer down.

President Trump is a socially incompetent 70 year who has never had anyone of any consequence correct his boorish behavior.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-06-29, 17:24

LooseGoose wrote:Crickets on what McMullin is other than a brand of political streaker.

Gets 20% of the vote in one state, finishes 3rd there and now somehow he means something?

Was a nobody, is a nobody.

I posted his bio. Do you not know how to read?

If you do not like this thread, you have the option of not screwing it up for everybody else.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2017-06-29, 17:29

GRR Spartan wrote:As much as VP Pence scares me I am confident Mrs. Pence only allow a tweet like Trump's once before she would put the hammer down.

President Trump is a socially incompetent 70 year who has never had anyone of any consequence correct his boorish behavior.

I may disagree with many of Pence's crazy beliefs, but I believe him to be a gentleman. I don't think Mrs. Pence would have to intervene. I a way, I feel bad for the guy. Slinging the amount of support he does for Trump on twitter must be exhausting. It doesn't matter that he isn't doing the typing, he has the swallow the words.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-06-29, 23:10

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Mr. President, your tweet was beneath the office and represents what is wrong with American politics, not the greatness of America.
11:15 AM - 29 Jun 2017
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-06-29, 23:55


Krauthammer on Trump's Tweets: This Is What It's Like in a Banana Republic
"Presidents don't talk like this. They never have," Krauthammer said. "This is what it sounds like when you're living in a banana republic. This is how Hugo Chavez would talk about his opponents. This is how the worst dictator, Duterte in the Philippines, would talk about opponents."

Mercedes Schlapp pushed back, pointing out that Trump is not shutting down the press or using military force to silence his critics, as those dictators did.

"When you defend the president of the United States by pointing out that he hasn't sent the tanks out in the streets to shut down the media, you've reached a fairly low level of defense," Krauthammer replied.

He added it's not just the fact that Trump's Twitter remarks are an embarrassment and a distraction, but also that they give an unfiltered, uncensored look at Trump's psyche.

"What we're seeing is a vindictiveness, a cruelty, a lack of temperedness, a lack of self-control which is truly shocking," Krauthammer said. "And that's what I think people are reacting to."
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/29/krauthammer-president-trump-vs-msnbc-morning-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski
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Post by DWags 2017-06-30, 00:01

Turtleneck wrote:
Krauthammer on Trump's Tweets: This Is What It's Like in a Banana Republic
"Presidents don't talk like this. They never have," Krauthammer said. "This is what it sounds like when you're living in a banana republic. This is how Hugo Chavez would talk about his opponents. This is how the worst dictator, Duterte in the Philippines, would talk about opponents."

Mercedes Schlapp pushed back, pointing out that Trump is not shutting down the press or using military force to silence his critics, as those dictators did.

"When you defend the president of the United States by pointing out that he hasn't sent the tanks out in the streets to shut down the media, you've reached a fairly low level of defense," Krauthammer replied.

He added it's not just the fact that Trump's Twitter remarks are an embarrassment and a distraction, but also that they give an unfiltered, uncensored look at Trump's psyche.

"What we're seeing is a vindictiveness, a cruelty, a lack of temperedness, a lack of self-control which is truly shocking," Krauthammer said. "And that's what I think people are reacting to."
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/29/krauthammer-president-trump-vs-msnbc-morning-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski

This is a man who has the nuclear launch codes and what shocks me more than that is there are so many people willing to defend him. It's frightening.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-06-30, 08:19

The circle of Fake News seems to be growng if we're going to include the opinion of Mr. Krauthammer to the mix.

Trump's behavior isn't new.  Years ago in a pre-Twitter universe NYT columnist Gail Collins wrote a piece that then citizen/real estate developer Donald Trump didn't like.  He sent ber a note calling her "a dog and a liar" and "having the face of a pig".

As she rightly points out, Trump his filled The White House with staff that supports anything he does including  the person incharge of White House social media  Mr. Dan Scavino Jr. whose first position in the Trump Organization was as a caddy at a Trump golf course..


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/opinion/ive-overestimated-donald-trump.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-03, 12:46

From Max Boot

We Didn’t Kick Britain’s Ass to Be This Kind of Country
Donald Trump’s abandonment of human rights is a repudiation of the country’s founding principles.

If Trump has any concern for democracy or human rights, he has not revealed it — except as a cudgel with which to beat the communist regime in Havana and secure Cuban-American votes. When asked to condemn Vladimir Putin’s murders of dissidents, Trump refused to do so, saying, “What, you think our country’s so innocent?”

The president’s senior national security and economic advisors, H.R. McMaster and Gary D. Cohn, wrote in the Wall Street Journal on May 30 that Trump believes “that the world is not a ‘global community’ but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage…. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.” In other words, this administration rejects the Enlightenment ideals of the Founders and instead embraces a Hobbesian view of the world in which the natural state of mankind is a “perpetual war of every man against his neighbor.”

Every previous would-be hegemon — Spain under Philip II, France under Louis XIV and Napoleon, Germany under Kaiser Wilhelm and Adolf Hitler, the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin and his successors — inspired decisive opposition from other states. The United States, by contrast, has aroused less opposition than any previous great power, for the simple reason that most countries are not afraid of us. They know that we are not motivated by purely selfish considerations. While the United States has always sought to promote its national interests, it has interpreted those interests broadly enough to include the defense of freedom around the world.

Trump threatens that understanding with his “America First” policy. He thinks he is protecting U.S. interests, but, in reality, he is destroying the “secret sauce” that is responsible for America’s greatness. If the United States pursues a me-first policy, every other country will follow suit, and the law of the jungle will prevail. Such a development will endanger the hard-won achievements of more than 200 years of U.S. foreign policy rooted in the ideals of the Declaration of Independence.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/03/we-didnt-kick-britains-ass-to-be-this-kind-of-country/

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Post by DWags 2017-07-03, 13:20

Turtleneck wrote:From Max Boot

We Didn’t Kick Britain’s Ass to Be This Kind of Country
Donald Trump’s abandonment of human rights is a repudiation of the country’s founding principles.

If Trump has any concern for democracy or human rights, he has not revealed it — except as a cudgel with which to beat the communist regime in Havana and secure Cuban-American votes. When asked to condemn Vladimir Putin’s murders of dissidents, Trump refused to do so, saying, “What, you think our country’s so innocent?”

The president’s senior national security and economic advisors, H.R. McMaster and Gary D. Cohn, wrote in the Wall Street Journal on May 30 that Trump believes “that the world is not a ‘global community’ but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage…. Rather than deny this elemental nature of international affairs, we embrace it.” In other words, this administration rejects the Enlightenment ideals of the Founders and instead embraces a Hobbesian view of the world in which the natural state of mankind is a “perpetual war of every man against his neighbor.”

Every previous would-be hegemon — Spain under Philip II, France under Louis XIV and Napoleon, Germany under Kaiser Wilhelm and Adolf Hitler, the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin and his successors — inspired decisive opposition from other states. The United States, by contrast, has aroused less opposition than any previous great power, for the simple reason that most countries are not afraid of us. They know that we are not motivated by purely selfish considerations. While the United States has always sought to promote its national interests, it has interpreted those interests broadly enough to include the defense of freedom around the world.

Trump threatens that understanding with his “America First” policy. He thinks he is protecting U.S. interests, but, in reality, he is destroying the “secret sauce” that is responsible for America’s greatness. If the United States pursues a me-first policy, every other country will follow suit, and the law of the jungle will prevail. Such a development will endanger the hard-won achievements of more than 200 years of U.S. foreign policy rooted in the ideals of the Declaration of Independence.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/03/we-didnt-kick-britains-ass-to-be-this-kind-of-country/


A lot to agree with here but he forgets our imperialistic period with Dole in Hawaii Roosevelt all over the Caribbean and creating Panama because we needed a canal Mahon writing books about how our Navy will be used to controll China and Japan etc. we've neglected the Declaration of Independence and constitution before in the interest of greed and expansion and we've created a ton of animosity world wide. This isn't the first time.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-09, 09:42

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Partnering with Putin on a "Cyber Security Unit" is akin to partnering with Assad on a "Chemical Weapons Unit".
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-09, 13:07

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Trump wasn't unprepared for his meeting with Putin. Nor is he ignorant of Moscow's subversion. He is a witting enabler of it.
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Turtleneck wrote:Evan McMullin‏Verified account
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Trump wasn't unprepared for his meeting with Putin. Nor is he ignorant of Moscow's subversion. He is a witting enabler of it.

Says the man whose 15 minutes was up 8 months ago.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-09, 14:05

More from Max Boot.

Trump Has Picked America’s Enemies in Russia Over Its Friends in Europe
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/09/trump-has-picked-americas-enemies-in-russia-over-its-friends-in-europe/?utm_content=bufferdcb38&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The United States has long led the way in showing how newcomers of all different backgrounds and ethnicities can be integrated into our democracy. But Trump is walking away from that vision — he did not mention the word “democracy” once in Warsaw and the only time he mentioned an election was when he bragged about all of the Polish-American votes he won in 2016. Trump seems to think that the only thing that unites Poland and America is “bonds of culture, faith, and tradition,” but Russians could just as plausibly claim to share those bonds as well.

Indeed, there is every reason to suspect that Trump himself, in spite of a few mildly critical remarks about Russia’s “destabilizing activities” (a nice way to describe the invasion of Ukraine, the subversion of the U.S. election, and the war crimes in Syria), shares this rosy view of Russian-American affinity peddled by Putin. As Rex Tillerson said, “there was a very clear positive chemistry” between the two men, so much so that they refused to break up their tête-à-tête even when it ran long over-schedule. There was no such warmth evident in Trump’s meetings with European leaders such as Angela Merkel. After his return home, Trump tweeted, “Now it is time to move forward in working constructively with Russia!” No mention of working constructively with Germany or France.

In the end, Trump’s second trip to Europe confirms the message of the first one: For the first time ever, the United States has a president who is more sympathetic to our enemies in Russia than to our friends in Europe.
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A defense of Western Civ is unconvincing coming from a POTUS who couldn't pass an undergrad course in that subject. https://usat.ly/2tDZOLm
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-09, 18:00

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In his tweets this morning, the American president condemns his predecessor more harshly than a hostile foreign dictator.
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-07-09, 18:11

Turtleneck wrote:Bill Kristol‏Verified account
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In his tweets this morning, the American president condemns his predecessor more harshly than a hostile foreign dictator.

Obama is the perfect fall guy for Donnie; his racist base will eat it up, and, so far, BHO has shown no inclination to respond.
IOW, Obama remains more presidential than the current president.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-09, 18:16

Thus far for Trump, Obama is the well that will not go dry.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-10, 12:45

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Putin is an enemy of free religion, speech, press and protest. He is now plotting future cyber attacks on America. He won't become a friend.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-12, 22:25

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When will Republican leaders in Washington stop defending Trump? If not now, when?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-07-12, 22:45

Turtleneck wrote:Ben Sasse‏Verified account
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Putin is an enemy of free religion, speech, press and protest. He is now plotting future cyber attacks on America. He won't become a friend.

To be fair Ben Sasse is an enemy of Americans living healthy lives... so there's that.

I really wanted to like him too. I did. Then last week happened, he started all the talk about repealing without replacing, and then I realized that him and I could certainly have a beer together but we'd start fighting after a couple.
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Turtleneck wrote:Mindy Finn‏Verified account @mindyfinn 18m18 minutes ago
When will Republican leaders in Washington stop defending Trump? If not now, when?

Like when Dem leaders stopped defending Clinton after he fucked a young intern and subordinate in the oval office?

Politics is a contact sport, I guess you don't learn that when you're running as a farce.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-07-12, 23:23

LooseGoose wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Mindy Finn‏Verified account @mindyfinn 18m18 minutes ago
When will Republican leaders in Washington stop defending Trump? If not now, when?

Like when Dem leaders stopped defending Clinton after he fucked a young intern and subordinate in the oval office?

Politics is a contact sport, I guess you don't learn that when you're running as a farce.

What is the statute of limitations on this argument? I mean.... we're looking at 20 years pretty soon. I feel like at a certain point you're talking about something Chester a Arthur did as if it's relevant. I'm just curious where the line is.
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Post by DWags 2017-07-12, 23:28

LooseGoose wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Mindy Finn‏Verified account @mindyfinn 18m18 minutes ago
When will Republican leaders in Washington stop defending Trump? If not now, when?

Like when Dem leaders stopped defending Clinton after he fucked a young intern and subordinate in the oval office?

Politics is a contact sport, I guess you don't learn that when you're running as a farce.

Fucking an intern is a treasonous act? You're warped.
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Post by Guest 2017-07-12, 23:29

DWags wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Like when Dem leaders stopped defending Clinton after he fucked a young intern and subordinate in the oval office?

Politics is a contact sport, I guess you don't learn that when you're running as a farce.

Fucking an intern is a treasonous act? You're warped.

What has Trump done that is treason?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2017-07-12, 23:32

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Like when Dem leaders stopped defending Clinton after he fucked a young intern and subordinate in the oval office?

Politics is a contact sport, I guess you don't learn that when you're running as a farce.

What is the statute of limitations on this argument? I mean.... we're looking at 20 years pretty soon. I feel like at a certain point you're talking about something Chester a Arthur did as if it's relevant. I'm just curious where the line is.

Look I just feel like if I brought up the George W Bush administration that it would be ridiculous at this point. So I don't. Clinton is even older.

(It would be ridiculous especially in the face of someone who says that their opinion can change on a dime and that should be okay but 20 years fuck that should be different.)
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-12, 23:32

So much as criticize Trump in the slightest and Loose's Defend Trump Alarm goes off and he comes running to protect his God Emperor. But you guys are the ones swallowing the propaganda.
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Post by Turtleneck 2017-07-12, 23:34

DWags wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Like when Dem leaders stopped defending Clinton after he fucked a young intern and subordinate in the oval office?

Politics is a contact sport, I guess you don't learn that when you're running as a farce.

Fucking an intern is a treasonous act? You're warped.

I am not going to say treason. I am also not going to defend Clinton. His moral compass is not much better than Trump's. However, if Trump intentionally endangered this country's national security, I am not willing to draw a parallel to Clinton.
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Post by Guest 2017-07-12, 23:41

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:

Fucking an intern is a treasonous act? You're warped.

I am not going to say treason. I am also not going to defend Clinton. His moral compass is not much better than Trump's. However, if Trump intentionally endangered this country's national security, I am not willing to draw a parallel to Clinton.

Did Trump issue the special waiver to let that Russkie in and stay? Nope Obama.
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Post by DWags 2017-07-12, 23:46

LooseGoose wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

I am not going to say treason. I am also not going to defend Clinton. His moral compass is not much better than Trump's. However, if Trump intentionally endangered this country's national security, I am not willing to draw a parallel to Clinton.

Did Trump issue the special waiver to let that Russkie in and stay? Nope Obama.

Obama!!
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