Arizona is toast

by **NigelUno** Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:27 pm

FBI wiretaps show Sean Miller discussed $100K payment to lock recruit

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:55 pm

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:57 pm

Look I’m not going to make the obvious “man they sure are turning the heat up on Sean miller I hope he wore an undershirt joke.”

I’m not. It’s too easy. It’s below me.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:57 pm

Just kidding yes I am

Arizona is toast Sean-miller-shirt

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:02 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Just kidding yes I am

by **Dr. Strangelove** Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:06 pm

Boy the FBi is playing this well. Leak out that shit this morning to get this investigation back on the radar and then for a nightcap they drop this.

Theyre gonna have arrests/indictments right as the tourney starts.

This might kill the ncaa and their bullshit administration of big time sports. I could see the power 5 saying fuck it and going their own way

by **NigelUno** Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:23 am

If Miller is fired with cause, he still gets over $10 million.

Arizona is toast 502811600

by **Jake from State Farm** Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:36 am

gHost Spartan wrote:I know some insider types closely affiliated with U Arizona but I've been afraid to ask them about the Miller stuff -

Hey Bennie, that gHost guy has been nosing around again, we need to make him disappear.

I'll get right on it Frankie.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:49 am

gHost Spartan wrote:I know some insider types closely affiliated with U Arizona but I've been afraid to ask them about the Miller stuff -

Are they mean people or do they have bad breath or something why are you so afraid?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:54 am

gHost Spartan wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Are they mean people or do they have bad breath or something why are you so afraid?

Nah, kind of die-hards like us and probably devastated -

Well then play it soft like maybe start out with a “man they’re looking at Arizona and not Kentucky? Wtf? But seriously though what kind of massive dipshit is Sean miller?”

by aualum06 Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:36 pm

Will not coach tonight

by Clarett's Folly Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:53 pm

I laughed out loud at that. Well played, Trav.

by **Dendrobates** Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:59 pm

I can understand a coach trying to bend the rules to gain top players. But to do something seriously illegal like this makes no sense to me. They really think they will never get caught? Prison is not worth a top 10 recruit.

by aualum06 Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:33 pm

Dendrobates wrote:I can understand a coach trying to bend the rules to gain top players. But to do something seriously illegal like this makes no sense to me. They really think they will never get caught? Prison is not worth a top 10 recruit.

Has he never seen the godfather or sopranos

by **tGreenWay** Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:57 pm

Dendrobates wrote:I can understand a coach trying to bend the rules to gain top players. But to do something seriously illegal like this makes no sense to me. They really think they will never get caught? Prison is not worth a top 10 recruit.

Agreed, especially when those coaches who are actually being considered by a top 10 recruit probably already have a comfortable amount of money in the bank. Why risk prison if you have enough money to retire on if you begin losing and get canned? The first reason why that comes to mind is hubris. Another reason is the old chestnut; everybody’s doing it. Except not everybody is doing it and besides, there’s that whole pesky thing about it being illegal and all.

by **Death Roe** Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:13 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Just kidding yes I am

so hot

by MattyFresh Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:14 pm

This whole FBI investigation and specific leaks to Yahoo are so goofy to me, smells like shit fish.

by MattyFresh Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:17 pm

With all this stuff and sensationalized journalism, I am questioning every little thing now.... RIGHT NOW

by aualum06 Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:53 pm

ESPN reports he's fired and they are wrong.

by MattyFresh Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:55 pm

aualum06 wrote:ESPN reports he's fired and they are wrong.

by **NigelUno** Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:07 am

aualum06 wrote:ESPN reports he's fired and they are wrong.

I think that was just a few guys doing a game (that thought they heard he was fired).

I don't think ESPN was running with the story. But, I could be wrong.

He will be fired eventually (or resign).

by **Jake from State Farm** Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:26 am

aualum06 wrote:ESPN reports he's fired and they are wrong.

ESPN wrong? Nah, never gonna happen.

by **DWags** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:01 am

gHost Spartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I think that was just a few guys doing a game (that thought they heard he was fired).

I don't think ESPN was running with the story. But, I could be wrong.

He will be fired eventually (or resign).

Agree. He's gone but just not yet. He's not even a very good coach, which is surprising -

That’s the point. He might very well be gone, but he’s not. ESPN got it wrong. But they just don’t care.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:07 am

MattyFresh wrote:With all this stuff and sensationalized journalism, I am questioning every little thing now.... RIGHT NOW

Very much this. Call me skeptical until I can hear the tape for myself and understand proper context. Not buying into these witch hunts anymore without facts.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:13 am

Is Bridges playing

by Guest Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:16 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Is Bridges playing

Yes darling, go heavy on MSU and the over - the boys are going to be ready to roll the Happsters up.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:17 am

Take Wisconsin first half.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:17 am

Why wbh

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:23 am

Because we start slow on the road. Wiscy has been getting better and gaining confidence. I expect a close game. If we pull away I wouldn't expect it to happen until 2nd half. Seems like our team likes to sleep walk through first halves, especially on the road.

by Guest Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:29 am

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Because we start slow on the road. Wiscy has been getting better and gaining confidence. I expect a close game. If we pull away I wouldn't expect it to happen until 2nd half. Seems like our team likes to sleep walk through first halves, especially on the road.

Historically WBH is right.....my get is that today they come out on fire, pissed and ready to exact revenge for Miles having his name sullied.

by **NigelUno** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:45 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Is Bridges playing

No. He got the alleged $400 from his mom and retired.

by **DWags** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:49 am

NigelUno wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Is Bridges playing

No. He got the alleged $400 from his mom and retired.

by **DWags** Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:53 am

LooseGoose wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Because we start slow on the road. Wiscy has been getting better and gaining confidence. I expect a close game. If we pull away I wouldn't expect it to happen until 2nd half. Seems like our team likes to sleep walk through first halves, especially on the road.

Historically WBH is right.....my get is that today they come out on fire, pissed and ready to exact revenge for Miles having his name sullied.

This. One of the beat writers said they were out there 90 minutes early running and shooting. They’re ready.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:39 pm

Shocking. It sounds like ESPN ran with info about Miller and wiretaps provided by DAWKINS DEFENSE TEAM. Check out the replies.

https://twitter.com/Mark_Schlabach/status/967940336457797635

by **Rocinante** Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:42 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Because we start slow on the road. Wiscy has been getting better and gaining confidence. I expect a close game. If we pull away I wouldn't expect it to happen until 2nd half. Seems like our team likes to sleep walk through first halves, especially on the road.

Good call.

by **steveschneider** Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:06 am

Seeing a similar pattern, Arizona fans are livid with ESPNs reporting. Also, ESPN made a big time error claiming Miller was stepping down during the game broadcast. Claim was completely inaccurate. As an outsider I only got the headline as well and thought it was true until this morning when I saw they had f’d up.

I agree with wbh let’s wait until the facts come out.

by **NigelUno** Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:25 am

steveschneider wrote:Seeing a similar pattern, Arizona fans are livid with ESPNs reporting. Also, ESPN made a big time error claiming Miller was stepping down during the game broadcast. Claim was completely inaccurate. As an outsider I only got the headline as well and thought it was true until this morning when I saw they had f’d up.

I agree with wbh let’s wait until the facts come out.

I thought Miller said he would be vindicated. I don't think he denied being on the tape though.

And Arizona was one of the original four schools named back in September which had assistants (Tony Bland of USC, Emanuel "Book" Richardson of Arizona, Lamont Evans of Oklahoma State and Chuck Person of Auburn) charged with various violations.

Will Miller have plausible deniability? We'll find out.

by **steveschneider** Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:28 am

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:Seeing a similar pattern, Arizona fans are livid with ESPNs reporting. Also, ESPN made a big time error claiming Miller was stepping down during the game broadcast. Claim was completely inaccurate. As an outsider I only got the headline as well and thought it was true until this morning when I saw they had f’d up.

I agree with wbh let’s wait until the facts come out.

I thought Miller said he would be vindicated. I don't think he denied being on the tape though.

And Arizona was one of the original four schools named back in September which had assistants (Tony Bland of USC, Emanuel "Book" Richardson of Arizona, Lamont Evans of Oklahoma State and Chuck Person of Auburn) charged with various violations.

Will Miller have plausible deniability? We'll find out.

Yeah, we will definitely have to wait and see. Did ESPN ever hear the tape or have a transcript? Doesn’t look like they have.

by **NigelUno** Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:47 am

steveschneider wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I thought Miller said he would be vindicated. I don't think he denied being on the tape though.

And Arizona was one of the original four schools named back in September which had assistants (Tony Bland of USC, Emanuel "Book" Richardson of Arizona, Lamont Evans of Oklahoma State and Chuck Person of Auburn) charged with various violations.

Will Miller have plausible deniability? We'll find out.

Yeah, we will definitely have to wait and see. Did ESPN ever hear the tape or have a transcript? Doesn’t look like they have.

Here's the original story:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22559284/sean-miller-arizona-christian-dawkins-discussed-payment-ensure-deandre-ayton-signing-according-fbi-investigation

FBI wiretaps intercepted telephone conversations between Arizona coach Sean Miller and Christian Dawkins, a key figure in the FBI's investigation into college basketball corruption, in which Miller discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats, sources familiar with the government's evidence told ESPN.

They reported there were conversations. They didn't report there were payments made.

by **steveschneider** Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:51 am

NigelUno wrote:
steveschneider wrote:

Yeah, we will definitely have to wait and see. Did ESPN ever hear the tape or have a transcript? Doesn’t look like they have.

Here's the original story:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22559284/sean-miller-arizona-christian-dawkins-discussed-payment-ensure-deandre-ayton-signing-according-fbi-investigation

FBI wiretaps intercepted telephone conversations between Arizona coach Sean Miller and Christian Dawkins, a key figure in the FBI's investigation into college basketball corruption, in which Miller discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats, sources familiar with the government's evidence told ESPN.

They reported there were conversations. They didn't report there were payments made.

Understood. Did ESPN hear the recording or have a transcript? Or are they just reporting on the existence of this recording? Important distinction. Also, are there any key details they left out?

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