Nick Ward making a large purchase

Spotted at a local dealership shopping for a new, loaded dodge charger. Sticker around 42k.

He gone.

Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

My source is pretty strong Seerock. Does this mean he's gone? Not necessarily but he definitely is buying s sweet ride.

duffy munn wrote:

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

My source is pretty strong Seerock. Does this mean he's gone? Not necessarily but he definitely is buying s sweet ride.

Depends if buying or leasing. Parents name on the title or his? But yeah, if what we hear about him and school is true, he’s gone.

duffy munn wrote:

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

My source is pretty strong Seerock. Does this mean he's gone? Not necessarily but he definitely is buying s sweet ride.

Wasn't doubting Duff. Just some thoughts.

Gone

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

This. Dude is a force down low but if he's gonna come back and be a malcontent then it's best we part ways now.

Thanks for the memories, Nick Ward. Fun player to watch and I hope he has a breakthrough in his game that lands him in the league.

DWags wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

My source is pretty strong Seerock. Does this mean he's gone? Not necessarily but he definitely is buying s sweet ride.

Depends if buying or leasing. Parents name on the title or his? But yeah, if what we hear about him and school is true, he’s gone.

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:Nick Ward is buying a cast iron skillet??

A really nice one

Hope he keeps the receipt. He's about as NBA ready as Deyonta Davis.

duffy munn wrote:

DWags wrote:

Depends if buying or leasing. Parents name on the title or his? But yeah, if what we hear about him and school is true, he’s gone.

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Cameron wrote:Hope he keeps the receipt. He's about as NBA ready as Deyonta Davis.

The second he rolled off the lot -8k.

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

You don't think Ward would have started next year?

NigelUno wrote:

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

You don't think Ward would have started next year?

I don't either unless they planned on a lineup with both X and Ward on the floor at the same time. I think X has surpassed Ward in terms of ability and Izzo is committed to more 4-out sets.

Clarett's Folly wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

You don't think Ward would have started next year?

I don't either unless they planned on a lineup with both X and Ward on the floor at the same time. I think X has surpassed Ward in terms of ability and Izzo is committed to more 4-out sets.

I think Izzo would find a way to make it work.

Who do you think would start? And how many minutes for Tillman and Ward?

NigelUno wrote:

SeeRockCity wrote:Not going to buy into that kind of rumor or speculation, but it would not surprise me one bit. Writing has been on the wall since Tillman's stock rose in the last half of the season. Ward will be a sixth or seventh option next year and he knows it.

Sucks if true though. Would've been great depth to have down low. Not sure how the attitude would have survived a whole season of being a bench player.

You don't think Ward would have started next year?

No, but what are your thoughts?

Sweet ride and Dodge Charger should never be used in the same sentence.

kingstonlake wrote:Really sweet ride and Dodge Charger should never be used in the same sentence.

Agreed, I think this is the real tragedy of this thread.

NigelUno wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

I don't either unless they planned on a lineup with both X and Ward on the floor at the same time. I think X has surpassed Ward in terms of ability and Izzo is committed to more 4-out sets.

I think Izzo would find a way to make it work.

Who do you think would start? And how many minutes for Tillman and Ward?

Cash
Langford
Aherns
Henry
Tillman
-- Bench --
Ward
Brown
The better of Loyer/Watts
Kithier
The worse of Loyer/Watts

Unknowns are Bingham and frosh other than Watts.
I don't know how minutes would break down but I expect Ward and Tillman would share the court on occasion but as an exception as opposed to a rule.

SeeRockCity wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

You don't think Ward would have started next year?

No, but what are your thoughts?

He would have started.

Moot point anyway.

Clarett's Folly wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

I don't either unless they planned on a lineup with both X and Ward on the floor at the same time. I think X has surpassed Ward in terms of ability and Izzo is committed to more 4-out sets.

I think Izzo would find a way to make it work.

Who do you think would start? And how many minutes for Tillman and Ward?

Cash
Langford
Aherns
Henry
Tillman
-- Bench --
Ward
Brown
The better of Loyer/Watts
Kithier
The worse of Loyer/Watts

Unknowns are Bingham and frosh other than Watts.
I don't know how minutes would break down but I expect Ward and Tillman would share the court on occasion but as an exception as opposed to a rule.

This is kind of how I saw it playing out as well. Hey, who knows, maybe Tillman turns out to be a great stretch 4 and games like Goins+. Then we stick Ward down low to bang away in the post. Or, maybe we tried that several times this year and it wasn't as effective as rotating them. Or, maybe I'm an idiot and don't know shit about basketball.

Probably the latter.

Clarett's Folly wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

I think Izzo would find a way to make it work.

Who do you think would start? And how many minutes for Tillman and Ward?

Cash
Langford
Aherns
Henry
Tillman
-- Bench --
Ward
Brown
The better of Loyer/Watts
Kithier
The worse of Loyer/Watts

Unknowns are Bingham and frosh other than Watts.
I don't know how minutes would break down but I expect Ward and Tillman would share the court on occasion but as an exception as opposed to a rule.

I think I would like that, but I'm not convinced Izzo would go that small. I think Ward and Tillman both start if Ward comes back, and Ahrens comes off the bench.

SeeRockCity wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

Cash
Langford
Aherns
Henry
Tillman
-- Bench --
Ward
Brown
The better of Loyer/Watts
Kithier
The worse of Loyer/Watts

Unknowns are Bingham and frosh other than Watts.
I don't know how minutes would break down but I expect Ward and Tillman would share the court on occasion but as an exception as opposed to a rule.

This is kind of how I saw it playing out as well. Hey, who knows, maybe Tillman turns out to be a great stretch 4 and games like Goins+. Then we stick Ward down low to bang away in the post. Or, maybe we tried that several times this year and it wasn't as effective as rotating them. Or, maybe I'm an idiot and don't know shit about basketball.

Probably the latter.

I know we had some guys hurt, but we actually played Goins, Ward, and Tillman together against TT. I think Izzo would have figured out how to use Tillman and Ward together.

Any free agents errrrr I mean fifth year transfers out there?

DWags wrote:Any free agents errrrr I mean fifth year transfers out there?

Does Ben Carter have a brother?

DWags wrote:Any free agents errrrr I mean fifth year transfers out there?

You know if we got rid of 5th year transfers a few weeks ago, we'd have been playing last night.

NigelUno wrote:

SeeRockCity wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

Cash
Langford
Aherns
Henry
Tillman
-- Bench --
Ward
Brown
The better of Loyer/Watts
Kithier
The worse of Loyer/Watts

Unknowns are Bingham and frosh other than Watts.
I don't know how minutes would break down but I expect Ward and Tillman would share the court on occasion but as an exception as opposed to a rule.

This is kind of how I saw it playing out as well. Hey, who knows, maybe Tillman turns out to be a great stretch 4 and games like Goins+. Then we stick Ward down low to bang away in the post. Or, maybe we tried that several times this year and it wasn't as effective as rotating them. Or, maybe I'm an idiot and don't know shit about basketball.

Probably the latter.

I know we had some guys hurt, but we actually played Goins, Ward, and Tillman together against TT. I think Izzo would have figured out how to use Tillman and Ward together.

Sure, I'm just speculating. You may be right. Who knows?

Cameron wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

Cash
Langford
Aherns
Henry
Tillman
-- Bench --
Ward
Brown
The better of Loyer/Watts
Kithier
The worse of Loyer/Watts

Unknowns are Bingham and frosh other than Watts.
I don't know how minutes would break down but I expect Ward and Tillman would share the court on occasion but as an exception as opposed to a rule.

I think I would like that, but I'm not convinced Izzo would go that small. I think Ward and Tillman both start if Ward comes back, and Ahrens comes off the bench.

I don't think Izzo views that as small. Henry is essentially the same size as Alan Anderson and he logged heavy minutes at the 4 for us. Like others have said, though, we've had Ward, Tillman, and Goins on the floor at the same time this year so I'm sure we can make it work no matter the personnel.

Who comes in for Ward when he's gassed after two times running the floor on a break then misses two consecutive defensive assignments? I think Izzo knows Wards role with Tillman's emergence. It's to spell Tillman with a back to the basket twist. I'm guessing Ward knows how Izzo feels as well. Hence, mid level sedan.....

I don't think it's a role thing, at all. I think Nick wants to play pro basketball, not have to take mid terms and eat caf food and ramen.

I think we have a better chance of losing both Tillman and Ward over keeping both of them

kingstonlake wrote:I think we have a better chance of losing both Tillman and Ward over keeping both of them

Thank goodness we have Isaiah Stewart and Vernon Carey to replace them.

Clarett's Folly wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:I think we have a better chance of losing both Tillman and Ward over keeping both of them

Thank goodness we have Isaiah Stewart and Vernon Carey to replace them.

All credit to Travis.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't think it's a role thing, at all. I think Nick wants to play pro basketball, not have to take mid terms and eat caf food and ramen.

Wanted to leave last year, and after his FR year.

He would start for sure next year.

NigelUno wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I don't think it's a role thing, at all. I think Nick wants to play pro basketball, not have to take mid terms and eat caf food and ramen.

Wanted to leave last year, and after his FR year.

He would start for sure next year.

Except that Tillman didn't factor into the equation in either of those years.

kingstonlake wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

Thank goodness we have Isaiah Stewart and Vernon Carey to replace them.

All credit to Travis.

Clarett's Folly wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Wanted to leave last year, and after his FR year.

He would start for sure next year.

Except that Tillman didn't factor into the equation in either of those years.

Tillman played last year.

You think Izzo will play 4 out with 1 big?

I don't think he did that when Ward was hurt. Kithier played 11, 11, 10, 19, and 8 minutes when Ward was out.

Total minutes for Goins, Tillman, and Kithier in those games was 79, 80, 80, 76, and 80. When was Henry logging heavy minutes at the 4 if he wasn't doing it when Ward was out?

You'd start Ahrens over Ward? Based on what? Because you think Izzo wants to play 4 out?

Ward was still hurt when he came back. That had something to do with him not starting.

NigelUno wrote:

Clarett's Folly wrote:

Except that Tillman didn't factor into the equation in either of those years.

Tillman played last year.

You think Izzo will play 4 out with 1 big?

I don't think he did that when Ward was hurt. Kithier played 11, 11, 10, 19, and 8 minutes when Ward was out.

Total minutes for Goins, Tillman, and Kithier in those games was 79, 80, 80, 76, and 80. When was Henry logging heavy minutes at the 4 if he wasn't doing it when Ward was out?

You'd start Ahrens over Ward? Based on what? Because you think Izzo wants to play 4 out?

Ward was still hurt when he came back. That had something to do with him not starting.

Solid post. I don’t think we make a FF run without a dinged up Nick Ward making his return. If Nick Ward makes a return next year he is playing a lot of minutes and will be a valuable piece to have.