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Post by Ass Dan 2014-07-24, 11:06

Wanna help the residents of Detroit whose water was shut off? Pay their bill ---> Water bill

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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 11:15

Pay a Detroit resident's water bill 1486952199 I don't necessarily believe in a "right" to water (or the internet, or electricity, or sewage, or trash removal, etc.), but I absolutely believe in helping people who need it.
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This Detroit resident would be happy to accept donations for my water bill. Naming rights available! Just imagine a sign in my bathroom stating "This flush made possible by the Guest Legacy Water Fund!"

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Post by Stan Sitwell 2014-07-24, 11:36

Ass Dan wrote:Wanna help the residents of Detroit whose water was shut off?  Pay their bill ---> Water bill


I thought you had like $4 to your name?
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Post by Cym Jim 2014-07-24, 11:44

Heat Miser wrote:I don't necessarily believe in a "right" to water

I believe that access to clean water is a basic human right, but America has always struggled with treating black people like humans.
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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 11:49

Cym Jim wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:I don't necessarily believe in a "right" to water

I believe that access to clean water is a basic human right, but America has always struggled with treating black people like humans.

Give it a rest already. And BTW, the Detroit River & Lake St. Clair are nearby. Want free water? Find a bucket and start walking. Purifying it & piping it to your house are not "rights".

BTW #2: it says "life, liberty, & the pursuit of hapiness". It doesn't say anything about free water (or healthcare, or electricity, or cable, or PS3, iPhones, etc).


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Post by goodbar 2014-07-24, 11:50

Cym Jim wrote:

I believe that access to clean water is a basic human right, but America has always struggled with treating black people like humans.

will this initiative just be for the black people of Detroit? I need to know before I take part.  Rolling Eyes
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Post by I.B. Fine 2014-07-24, 11:51

Cym Jim wrote:

I believe that access to clean water is a basic human right, but America has always struggled with treating black people like humans.

Pretty sure access isn't a problem and how racist of you to assume it's only blacks that aren't paying their bills.
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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 11:52

goodbar wrote:
Cym Jim wrote:

I believe that access to clean water is a basic human right, but America has always struggled with treating black people like humans.

will this initiative just be for the black people of Detroit? I need to know before I take part.  Rolling Eyes

Yes, the Chaldeans, Polish, Asians, and of course whites, are out. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 11:54

I.B. Fine wrote:
Cym Jim wrote:

I believe that access to clean water is a basic human right, but America has always struggled with treating black people like humans.

Pretty sure access isn't a problem and how racist of you to assume it's only blacks that aren't paying their bills.

Good point. It seems Cym Jim is so hell bent on bending over backwards to not be racist, he actually being racist. A tough maneuver to pull off.
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Post by Cym Jim 2014-07-24, 12:00

Heat Miser wrote:

And BTW, the Detroit River & Lake St. Clair are nearby. Want free water? Find a bucket and start walking.
Should they carry the bucket on their heads?
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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 12:04

Cym Jim wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

And BTW, the Detroit River & Lake St. Clair are nearby. Want free water? Find a bucket and start walking.
Should they carry the bucket on their heads?

This is America, they can carry it however they want. I'd recommend the shoulder yoke with buckets hanging from both sides, but that's just me.
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Post by Dendrobates 2014-07-24, 12:06

Someone please enlighten me on this. Paying your water bill has not been a new thing. If you stop paying any other bill, it is taken away. So if you stop paying your water bill, your water should be shut off. Its not like this was just sprung on people. Water is a must I know. But they are also paying other bills. Some have a higher priority than others. That's just life.
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Post by I.B. Fine 2014-07-24, 12:14

Dendrobates wrote:Someone please enlighten me on this. Paying your water bill has not been a new thing. If you stop paying any other bill, it is taken away. So if you stop paying your water bill, your water should be shut off. Its not like this was just sprung on people. Water is a must I know. But they are also paying other bills. Some have a higher priority than others. That's just life.

You sad, unenlightened white person, let Cym Jim explain to you the error of your ways since you want to deprive a whole race of the right to drink water!  lol! 
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Post by SpartanMikey 2014-07-24, 12:17

If you can't pay a fucking $40-75 bill, you should perhaps re evaluate your everyday life.
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Post by goodbar 2014-07-24, 12:21

SpartanMikey wrote:If you can't pay a fucking $40-75 bill, you should perhaps re evaluate your everyday life.

why do you hate black people so much?
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Post by SpartanMikey 2014-07-24, 12:27

goodbar wrote:

why do you hate black people so much?
Don't start that dumb shit with me, man.
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Post by Dendrobates 2014-07-24, 12:28

If they get their water bill for free, than I should too and so should everyone else.
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Post by SpartanMikey 2014-07-24, 12:31

Dendrobates wrote:If they get their water bill for free, than I should too and so should everyone else.
You racist piece of trash...
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Post by AMwood 2014-07-24, 12:36

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You racist piece of trash...

you sound like a homophobic ass wipe.
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Post by Roger Waymeth 2014-07-24, 12:36

Hip Hop Anonymous wrote:This Detroit resident would be happy to accept donations for my water bill. Naming rights available! Just imagine a sign in my bathroom stating "This flush made possible by the Guest Legacy Water Fund!"

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Post by goodbar 2014-07-24, 12:37

SpartanMikey wrote:
Don't start that dumb shit with me, man.

why do you need to bring religion into this?
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Post by DWags 2014-07-24, 12:40

People need water to live. They don't need phones electricity cable. I don't have an answer for this, but I always feel rage when I see young ones suffer because they've had the misfortune of being born into a family who can't prioritize important things. I don't think water should be free but man, the kids living without it will grow up bitter and not much better then their parents.

You can answer me with "it's their parents fault". It doesn't change the fact they suffer.
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Post by SpartanMikey 2014-07-24, 12:41

AMwood wrote:

you sound like a homophobic ass wipe.
You sound like a cock loving, power bottom.
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Post by SpartanMikey 2014-07-24, 12:42

Your avatar is probably relevant to your everyday interests.
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Post by AMwood 2014-07-24, 12:43

DWags wrote:People need water to live.  They don't need phones electricity cable.   I don't have an answer for this, but I always feel rage when I see young ones suffer because they've had the misfortune of being born into a family who can't prioritize important things.  I don't think water should be free but man, the kids living without it will grow up bitter and not much better then their parents.  

You can answer me with "it's their parents fault".  It doesn't change the fact they suffer.  

i agree with you bro. but i would like to have proof that the parents aren't paying for iphones or internet access with their water bill money first.
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Post by AMwood 2014-07-24, 12:44

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Post by Dendrobates 2014-07-24, 12:46

DWags wrote:People need water to live. They don't need phones electricity cable. I don't have an answer for this, but I always feel rage when I see young ones suffer because they've had the misfortune of being born into a family who can't prioritize important things. I don't think water should be free but man, the kids living without it will grow up bitter and not much better then their parents.

You can answer me with "it's their parents fault". It doesn't change the fact they suffer.


I agree. There isn't a" good" answer either way. People shouldn't suffer like that, but this is not something that came out of the blue. Its about priorities. And maybe they can't have tv/internet at the moment, and water is something to pay first. If the city of Detroit never had a water bill, and started one, then I see the point. But people got lazy got away with it for a while. It isn't an outrageous bill to begin with, so I do feel that most people could find a way.
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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 12:47

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Post by Cym Jim 2014-07-24, 12:47

Dendrobates wrote:Someone please enlighten me on this. Paying your water bill has not been a new thing. If you stop paying any other bill, it is taken away. So if you stop paying your water bill, your water should be shut off. Its not like this was just sprung on people. Water is a must I know. But they are also paying other bills. Some have a higher priority than others. That's just life.

I think the concerns are more about right-wing officials and for-profit contractors implementing an inhumane austerity agenda to push pro-corporate policies and balance the books of a financially strapped city on the backs of its hardest-hit residents. "I pay my fucking bills, why can't they?" is an easier conversation though, I agree.

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Post by AMwood 2014-07-24, 12:50

Cym Jim wrote:

I think the concerns are more about right-wing officials and for-profit contractors implementing an inhumane austerity agenda to push pro-corporate policies and balance the books of a financially strapped city on the backs of its hardest-hit residents. "I pay my fucking bills, why can't they?" is an easier conversation though, I agree.


you must have got shit for brains. there are no right wing officials in the city of detroit.
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Post by Rocinante 2014-07-24, 12:50

Can we at least agree that the economic collapse of Detroit has led to the isolation of population away from where jobs are available? This is not to say that there have not been bad individual choices made, but only that there are people who can't work where they live, can't travel somewhere to work, and so are stuck? I think there's more nuance than "just pay your bills".
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Post by goodbar 2014-07-24, 12:50

AMwood wrote:

you must have got shit for brains. there are no right wing officials in the city of detroit.

ssshhhh. he's on a roll...
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Post by Dendrobates 2014-07-24, 12:51

Cym Jim wrote:

I think the concerns are more about right-wing officials and for-profit contractors implementing an inhumane austerity agenda to push pro-corporate policies and balance the books of a financially strapped city on the backs of its hardest-hit residents. "I pay my fucking bills, why can't they?" is an easier conversation though, I agree.


It is easier to say that, that is true. I like the point that someone else made. If their money is all going to food, shelter, clothing....those essentials. And if there is nothing left over, than I would think we should do something about it. But I believe most are spending their money on nonessential. Yes, that is an assumption, but I don't think it's far off.
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Post by Dendrobates 2014-07-24, 12:52

Rocinante wrote:Can we at least agree that the economic collapse of Detroit has led to the isolation of population away from where jobs are available? This is not to say that there have not been bad individual choices made, but only that there are people who can't work where they live, can't travel somewhere to work, and so are stuck? I think there's more nuance than "just pay your bills".

Agreed. So what's the solution then? Not everyone is in that situation, so then what?
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Post by Heat Miser 2014-07-24, 12:53

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Dendrobates wrote:Someone please enlighten me on this. Paying your water bill has not been a new thing. If you stop paying any other bill, it is taken away. So if you stop paying your water bill, your water should be shut off. Its not like this was just sprung on people. Water is a must I know. But they are also paying other bills. Some have a higher priority than others. That's just life.

I think the concerns are more about right-wing officials and for-profit contractors implementing an inhumane austerity agenda to push pro-corporate policies and balance the books of a financially strapped city on the backs of its hardest-hit residents. "I pay my fucking bills, why can't they?" is an easier conversation though, I agree.


How it got that way & who is to blame is a different conversion, but I don't think any major city can remain solvent while giving away services to half its population. Should they just write it all off as bad debt & let everybody start from zero and say "now going forward, we're serious. pay for your water"?
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Post by Rocinante 2014-07-24, 12:59

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Agreed. So what's the solution then? Not everyone is in that situation, so then what?

Well, since fixed incomes are probably a reality for those people, I think the city's approach of making contact with everyone who's getting cut off is a good one. I have heard that they are trying to encourage paying SOMETHING, and using a sliding scale for repayment. That's a start. But bottom line, in such an economically depressed area, there's going to be people who can't pay. Especially now that water prices have doubled. Some of that debt is probably going to have to be forgiven and a "fresh start" under the new system granted. Another option would be some type of water stations in hardest hit areas. That way maybe people can still get access to fresh water, but they have to go get it. Might motivate some people.

God, that sounds archaic, though.
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Post by Cym Jim 2014-07-24, 13:07

AMwood wrote:

you must have got shit for brains. there are no right wing officials in the city of detroit.

Tell me about it. Quite cunning of Snyder to impose “emergency manager” control on Detroit last year, disempowering local elected officials and putting the governor and his appointees in charge.
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Welcome to racism day on the Swill. And by the way, what are the intended uses for this smiley?  afro 
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Post by AMwood 2014-07-24, 13:17

Cym Jim wrote:

Tell me about it. Quite cunning of Snyder to impose “emergency manager” control on Detroit last year, disempowering local elected officials and putting the governor and his appointees in charge.

i don't wanna get into this with you, man.


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