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Post by Turtleneck 2021-08-20, 15:24

Few details. Feel free to speculate.

Sources: ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 to announce alliance

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Post by kingstonlake 2021-08-20, 16:34

Thank you for not burying the lead.like you did in the other thread, Turtleneck.
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Post by tGreenWay 2021-08-20, 16:41

Rotel Chili will reach so many more people now.
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-08-21, 01:05

tGreenWay wrote:Rotel Chili will reach so many more people now.

Is that a good thing for global warming?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2021-08-21, 02:19

Reeks of desperation
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-08-21, 02:23

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Reeks of desperation

The alliance, the chili farts, or my post?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2021-08-21, 11:52

Turtleneck wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Reeks of desperation

The alliance, the chili farts, or my post?

The alliance
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Post by kingstonlake 2021-08-21, 12:42

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Turtleneck wrote:

The alliance, the chili farts, or my post?

The alliance

Fuck the SEC and ESPN trying to control college athletics.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-08-21, 14:17

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Reeks of desperation

Depends on what they announce.

Could be something as simple as out of conference scheduling and/or bowl matchups.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2021-08-22, 08:50

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Reeks of desperation
You seem to forget minus Alabama football, they are nothing special.
Now it's just TV coverage areas.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2021-08-22, 11:42

ESPN's on the case. They have their paid SEC mouth Paul Fienbaum saying the B1G/PAC12/ACC alliance discussions shows desperation.

I suspect ESPN doesn't like the potential future of their College programming.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2021-08-22, 13:11

kingstonlake wrote:
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The alliance

Fuck the SEC and ESPN trying to control college athletics.

well, they are going to and do. welcome to U$A
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Post by Heat Miser 2021-08-22, 13:20

A combined ACC/B1G/PAC network could freeze ESPN out of a lot of college football. [shrug]
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-08-22, 15:29

Fine by me. I hate ESPN.
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Post by DWags 2021-08-22, 15:45

Heat Miser wrote:A combined ACC/B1G/PAC network could freeze ESPN out of a lot of college football. [shrug]

Paul Finebaum was throwing big shade on this last week. Guess why? I had Dakich on the radio and he interviewed Mark Packar? Anyway they were asking how come the SEC writers and sycophants were up in arms about this possible alliance. Hmmmmm wonder why. I’m for it if it screws espn and the SEC even a little.
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Post by Heat Miser 2021-08-22, 15:53

They could also freeze the SEC out of non-conference games.
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Post by steveschneider 2021-08-22, 16:13

NigelUno wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Reeks of desperation

Depends on what they announce.

Could be something as simple as out of conference scheduling and/or bowl matchups.

I'm open to change and there's definitely room for improving the season. The scheduling has been atrocious and the conference has been diluted by expansion.
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Post by StylesGShmooth 2021-08-23, 18:57

I don't get how ESPN benefits specifically from the SEC over other conferences. The ACC Network is ESPN and the SEC's biggest game every week is on CBS.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2021-08-23, 20:08

StylesGShmooth wrote:I don't get how ESPN benefits specifically from the SEC over other conferences.  The ACC Network is ESPN and the SEC's biggest game every week is on CBS.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/sec-espn-officially-announce-new-rights-deal-moving-sec-afternoon-games-and-sec-championship-from-cbs-to-abc/ar-BB1bPmGX
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-08-24, 02:11

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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2021-08-24, 09:25

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Post by NigelUno 2021-08-24, 10:19

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Zzzz

Playing GT, UNC, UCLA...is better than playing South Potato State in non-conference.

If that's what this is doing.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2021-08-24, 10:20

the SEC picks up Oklahoma & Texas, meanwhile the B10 forms an "alliance" like Jim and and Dwight from the fucking office Big 10, ACC, and PAC-12  Alliance  502811600
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Post by NigelUno 2021-08-24, 10:30

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:the SEC picks up Oklahoma & Texas, meanwhile the B10 forms an "alliance" like Jim and and Dwight from the fucking office Big 10, ACC, and PAC-12  Alliance  502811600

We've got a ways to go before any of this really means anything.

Not sure adding OU and Texas to the BigTen would be all that great for Michigan State.  Just like it won't be great for teams like Tennessee, Auburn, etc.

If major schools break away to form their own division/league (separate from the NCAA), seems like it will include the SEC, ACC, B10, and Pac 12 (however they align themselves or create alliances with each other).
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Post by Nordic 2021-08-24, 13:21

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Strategically, it makes sense and is a good move for the BIG/ACC/PAC12.  If we can get some kickass PAC12 and ACC games out of it, that would be sweat good.

But compared to the SEC move it is definitely a 'zzzzz' for me. They are trying hard to make is a big deal and countering SEC announcements with their own. Gotta stay relevant in the media. A couple of days ago the SEC announced a new deal with SEC. A day later the BIG/ACC/Pac12 announced, 'we got shit coming too!'. Wake me when you have something concrete to report. But it is good media fodder. College football fans love conference and playoff talk.
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Post by DWags 2021-08-24, 21:11

Kansas and Iowa state to the big ten. ????
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Post by steveschneider 2021-08-24, 21:26

I love the Pac 12. The more we see of them and work with them the better. This is a good thing folks.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2021-08-24, 21:39

The mighty sec is a fallacy.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2021-08-25, 07:39

DWags wrote:Kansas and Iowa state to the big ten. ????

IDK where Stache gets his info, but great. As matter of fact, bring K State and then we can kick RU and Maryland out.
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Post by Nordic 2021-08-25, 08:07

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DWags wrote:Kansas and Iowa state to the big ten. ????

IDK where Stache gets his info, but great. As matter of fact, bring K State and then we can kick RU and Maryland out.

He doesn't have info.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-08-25, 08:30

Nordic wrote:
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Strategically, it makes sense and is a good move for the BIG/ACC/PAC12.  If we can get some kickass PAC12 and ACC games out of it, that would be sweat good.

But compared to the SEC move it is definitely a 'zzzzz' for me. They are trying hard to make is a big deal and countering SEC announcements with their own. Gotta stay relevant in the media. A couple of days ago the SEC announced a new deal with SEC. A day later the BIG/ACC/Pac12 announced, 'we got shit coming too!'. Wake me when you have something concrete to report. But it is good media fodder. College football fans love conference and playoff talk.

Heard speculation that it's all about (setting up) the next TV deal. Having ACC/Big Ten and Pac12/Big Ten nonconference match ups will generate more revenue.
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Post by kingstonlake 2021-08-25, 08:43

I'm hearing wild rumors that college football conferences are interested in money and TV deals. I'll check back later when I can confirm.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2021-08-25, 09:26

kingstonlake wrote:I'm hearing wild rumors that college football conferences are interested in money and TV deals. I'll check back later when I can confirm.
Zactly, and Big Ten isn't "behind" the SEC by those key metrics.
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Post by NigelUno 2021-08-25, 10:16

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kingstonlake wrote:I'm hearing wild rumors that college football conferences are interested in money and TV deals. I'll check back later when I can confirm.
Zactly, and Big Ten isn't "behind" the SEC by those key metrics.

Whether the Big Ten is ahead right now is immaterial. Things are changing. Big Ten and Pac12 deals expire in 2024. An alliance set up now to provide better programming (non conference match ups) later is the driving force. If ESPN/ABC are all in on the SEC, the Alliance can create multiple bidders (among CBS, NBC, Fox, and streaming services) for the rights.
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Post by Heat Miser 2021-08-25, 10:48

NigelUno wrote:
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kingstonlake wrote:I'm hearing wild rumors that college football conferences are interested in money and TV deals. I'll check back later when I can confirm.
Zactly, and Big Ten isn't "behind" the SEC by those key metrics.

Whether the Big Ten is ahead right now is immaterial. Things are changing. Big Ten and Pac12 deals expire in 2024. An alliance set up now to provide better programming (non conference match ups) later is the driving force. If ESPN/ABC are all in on the SEC, the Alliance can create multiple bidders (among CBS, NBC, Fox, and streaming services) for the rights.

It'll be interesting to see if they negotiate a 3 conference mega-package with equal distribution for all or continue with each of the 3 negotiating separately. If everybody's getting the same $$$ there's not much incentive to jump or poach. Big 10, ACC, and PAC-12  Alliance  2599972566
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Post by DWags 2021-11-29, 10:40

This is a good thing. Side note Turtle. Every time I see the land grant trophy, I see the lion on the side of the trophy and think it's a telephone.
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Post by Turtleneck 2021-11-29, 11:26

DWags wrote:This is a good thing. Side note Turtle. Every time I see the land grant trophy, I see the lion on the side of the trophy and think it's a telephone.

I love the rivalry game between the two greatest land grant schools, which is why the trophy is so confusing. It does look like a phone. It's so damn ugly. The trophy does not match the game.
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