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Post by Turtleneck 12/11/2021, 7:10 pm

Michigan State coach Tom Izzo: Attacks on healthcare workers 'makes me sick'

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/12/11/michigan-state-basketball-tom-izzo-covid-19-healtcare-workers/6479901001/
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 12/11/2021, 7:18 pm

Awww shit, the goobers are going to be gunning for Izzo... them motherfuckers. That may be the line in the sand for me. I may have to get drastic if that happens.
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Post by tGreenWay 12/11/2021, 7:38 pm

Makes him sick? Tom might want to avoid getting sick right now, since so many healthcare workers are busy fending off attacks from anti-vaxxers.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 12/11/2021, 7:50 pm

tGreenWay wrote:Makes him sick? Tom might want to avoid getting sick right now, since so many healthcare workers are busy fending off attacks from anti-vaxxers.
since bad rebounding and turnovers and missed free-throws also make him sick, he really needs to be careful.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 12/11/2021, 7:54 pm

Btw, my wife's back went out right before Thanksgiving. She ended going into the ER... the ER doc just went on and on about how busy they were from anti-Vax covid patients. Many of them giving him attitude and begging for horse medicine. Police at the Er door keeping the families out.
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Post by Turtleneck 12/11/2021, 8:11 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:Btw, my wife's back went out right before Thanksgiving. She ended going into the ER... the ER doc just went on and on about how busy they were from anti-Vax covid patients. Many of them giving him attitude and begging for horse medicine. Police at the Er door keeping the families out.

Maybe they should have tried the Veterinary Medical Center instead.

Anyway, a couple UM fans will pass this winter thinking they stuck it to Izzo because they are weird like that.
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Post by kingstonlake 12/11/2021, 8:46 pm

I hear Joe Rogan is accepting new patients
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Post by DWags 12/11/2021, 8:48 pm

What he said was perfect

“I have a lot of friends that are doctors and nurses, and I'm really ticked off at our country a little bit. Whether you choose to get vaccinated or not is your choice. I'm gonna beg people to get vaccinated because it's what I believe. But it's not just me — it's the scientific knowledge, it's the doctors, it's the nurses, it's everybody. And the people that are getting it that are vaccinated have such a better chance to survive everything and stay out of the hospitals.


[ Michigan State basketball: Best-, worst-case scenarios for Izzo's 2021-22 team ]

“Our hospitals are overwhelmed again. And for the first time last week, I had some friends of mine, I had some people say to me, ‘People are so idiotic. They're blaming the doctors and the nurses.’ So if you don't get it (the COVID vaccine), that's your business. But these are people that were our heroes, they were our heroes for a year. And now because people, in my humble opinion, don't get vaccinated and let down your guard a little bit, and our hospitals in the state of Michigan are in trouble again. And then that's OK if that's what you want to do. But for the people out there condemning our doctors and nurses and the first responders makes me sick. It really bothers me. So you have your own decision on what you want to do, that's your business. But I'll tell you one thing, if anybody's that ignorant that they're condemning our doctors, nurses, first responders — all the people that are giving their frickin' life, and now we can't even get operations, we can't do things because these hospitals are overwhelmed again — shame on you.

“So take your shots at me. It doesn't bother me. I'm not telling you that you have to — who's Tom Izzo to tell you to go get vaccinated? That's your business. But please, from the bottom my heart, appreciate the people. Those nurses that get paid little and put their life on the line every day. And the doctors, please don't forget we love them, we care about them, we appreciate them. What they've done for us, while most of us were sitting home not working, and they were going in every day. And I hear that stuff out in our community? It makes me sick. So let the fight start, let it begin. Do what you want with your vaccinations. But please, appreciate the people that have done so much for us.”

Izzo has been a vocal proponent of health safety throughout the nearly two years of the pandemic, from promoting wearing masks early to pushing for the public to get vaccinated in September. He overcame a bout of COVID-19 in November last year before the start of the 2020-21 season.

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Post by Pervis Muldoon 12/11/2021, 8:49 pm

Izzo has actually softened his vaccination position. Before the season, he was telling people to get vaccinated and calling bullshit on anti-vaxxers' reasons for not getting vaccinated.
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Post by duffy munn 12/11/2021, 9:30 pm

Good for Tom for speaking his mind knowing full well it will piss some people off. More or less a fuck off to the anti-vaxers.
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Post by Trapper Gus 12/11/2021, 10:48 pm

Tom (and I) has no sympathy for people who chose, by not getting vaccinated, to get covid and end up in hospitals.

Also, Don Izzo is using the power he has, if only 10 people get vaccinated because of him that is still 10 people.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 12/11/2021, 11:04 pm

Yeah as pervis mentioned I’m confused as Tom really didn’t go after the anti vax crowd here
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 12/11/2021, 11:08 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Yeah as pervis mentioned I’m confused as Tom really didn’t go after the anti vax crowd here
To be fair..... the antivax crowd is the same crowd who are assholes to medical people. (And retail people and all others...)
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Post by Turtleneck 12/11/2021, 11:19 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:Tom (and I) has no sympathy for people who chose, by not getting vaccinated, to get covid and end up in hospitals.

Also, Don Izzo is using the power he has, if only 10 people get vaccinated because of him that is still 10 people.

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Post by PennSpartan 12/12/2021, 7:13 am

Thank you, Tom!
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Post by GRR Spartan 12/12/2021, 8:55 am

I saw it as a polite STFU and stern request to behave rather than blaming doctors, nurses and caregivers for your hospitalization due to complications of COVID when at least 80% of you in the hospital refused to be vaccinated.

In West MI its a freaking mess. Way too many people compared to pre-Pandemic.

An acquaintance who's a sports med/lower extremities orthopedic surgeon who is in the OR 3 days a week is having to reschedule elective procedures like hip and knee replacements into late February / March. The doctors doing spine surgery are rescheduling to March- April.

I long for the good old days of early March 2020 when the science deniers were claiming COVID deaths wouldn't be any larger than annual traffic fatalities.

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Post by PennSpartan 12/12/2021, 9:01 am

GRR Spartan wrote:

I long for the good old days of early March 2020 when the science deniers were claiming COVID deaths wouldn't be any larger than annual traffic fatalities.

They haven’t changed their stance.  They now claim the nearly 900k deaths are fake news.
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Post by Trapper Gus 12/12/2021, 9:51 am

PennSpartan wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:

I long for the good old days of early March 2020 when the science deniers were claiming COVID deaths wouldn't be any larger than annual traffic fatalities.

They haven’t changed their stance.  They now claim the nearly 900k deaths are fake news.

In one sense they are correct, just not the way that they mean. The actual deaths caused by the pandemic are higher than the 900k number. An alternate analysis which tracks average deaths per population from past years as a baseline was higher than one million deaths months ago.
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Post by Motown Spartan 12/12/2021, 9:57 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:
They haven’t changed their stance.  They now claim the nearly 900k deaths are fake news.

In one sense they are correct, just not the way that they mean. The actual deaths caused by the pandemic are higher than the 900k number. An alternate analysis which tracks average deaths per population from past years as a baseline was higher than one million deaths months ago.

Excess deaths rather than expected deaths.
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