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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 21:21

I know the football team is not allowed to but we are. 

According to "Johnny Detroit"(pro handicapper who works for wagertalk.com), per his contacts at the LV Super Book, MSU/Iowa would be EVEN with Cook healthy and playing. If Cook was out, Iowa would be a 2.5 point fave. 

Thoughts?

I'm pretty comfortable with our chances next week and potentially against Iowa because I don't think either team has the ability to take advantage of our greatest weakness (secondary). I felt the same about Michigan. Iowa in fact reminds me a bit of Michigan. Just a solid club that doesn't do anything spectacular. I think they're good but we can take them. Especially if we can be two dimensional.
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Post by Guest 2015-11-22, 21:29

If we avoid the trap on Saturday I'm confident all the way to a title.
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Post by InTenSity 2015-11-22, 21:33

Assuming we beat psu next week, I think we beat Iowa. I wouldn't call for a blow out, but again, MSU has experience this year of playing on a big stage.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 21:34

LooseGoose wrote:If we avoid the trap on Saturday I'm confident all the way to a title.
I was trying to think earlier who would be a bad matchup for us. I don't honestly know enough about Clemson.

Baylor would be a bad matchup for us this year. Can anyone else who might possibly make their way to the playoff sling the ball like they can, even with the Frosh at QB? 

How is Clemson's air attack? 

I think we could and would beat Bama. They can't throw it. Fuck the SEC, the gap has narrowed considerably since 2010. We would probably be 2 TD dogs and that would be like taking candy from a baby.
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Post by xsanguine 2015-11-22, 21:39

Is this handicapper legit?

And by legit... I mean, affiliated with organized crime?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2015-11-22, 21:44

I'm scared of bama. Am I a pussy?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 21:55

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I'm scared of bama. Am I a pussy?
I'm not gonna call you a pussy like everyone called me a pussy but yes. 

MSU can play with Bama in the trenches. They will have trouble with any team that can sling the ball around and also run. Bama ain't that team.
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Post by Turtleneck 2015-11-22, 21:56

Looking foward I am scared of liberals.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 21:57

xsanguine wrote:Is this handicapper legit?

And by legit... I mean, affiliated with organized crime?
I don't know how good of a handicapper he is but yes he has connections. I have followed him for a few years. He's a UM fan but he passes my smell test in terms of being legit.
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Post by Turtleneck 2015-11-22, 21:59

How does a UM fan pass the smell test? All UM fans smell because they are trashy or trustafarians. They all smell.


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Post by DWags 2015-11-22, 22:01

No offense but don't you guys suck at gambling?
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Post by Turtleneck 2015-11-22, 22:01

DWags wrote:No offense but don't you guys suck at gambling?

Good luck getting a hat.
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Post by DWags 2015-11-22, 22:02

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:No offense but don't you guys suck at gambling?

Good luck getting a hat.

I meant don't you guys suck the life out of bookies.
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Post by NigelUno 2015-11-22, 22:07

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I know the football team is not allowed to but we are. 

According to "Johnny Detroit"(pro handicapper who works for wagertalk.com), per his contacts at the LV Super Book, MSU/Iowa would be EVEN with Cook healthy and playing. If Cook was out, Iowa would be a 2.5 point fave. 

Thoughts?

I'm pretty comfortable with our chances next week and potentially against Iowa because I don't think either team has the ability to take advantage of our greatest weakness (secondary). I felt the same about Michigan. Iowa in fact reminds me a bit of Michigan. Just a solid club that doesn't do anything spectacular. I think they're good but we can take them. Especially if we can be two dimensional.

OSU opened -2 1/2 against UM, and UM is now favored?

And Even WITH Cook?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 22:12

NigelUno wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I know the football team is not allowed to but we are. 

According to "Johnny Detroit"(pro handicapper who works for wagertalk.com), per his contacts at the LV Super Book, MSU/Iowa would be EVEN with Cook healthy and playing. If Cook was out, Iowa would be a 2.5 point fave. 

Thoughts?

I'm pretty comfortable with our chances next week and potentially against Iowa because I don't think either team has the ability to take advantage of our greatest weakness (secondary). I felt the same about Michigan. Iowa in fact reminds me a bit of Michigan. Just a solid club that doesn't do anything spectacular. I think they're good but we can take them. Especially if we can be two dimensional.

OSU opened -2 1/2 against UM, and UM is now favored?  

And Even WITH Cook?  
I'm unsure of the line of questioning here.
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Post by NigelUno 2015-11-22, 22:21

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
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OSU opened -2 1/2 against UM, and UM is now favored?  

And Even WITH Cook?  
I'm unsure of the line of questioning here.

The UM question was for BobbySak.

The other one was my reaction to the hypothetical line for a MSU-Iowa game...as in that line surprises me.

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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 22:23

Stop yelling at me Nigel. God I hate you.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2015-11-22, 22:31

Iowa has had some close games and needed a 50+FG to beat Pitt.

I don't discount Nebraska's chances in this Friday's game in Lincoln.

Root for the Hawkeyes and Buckeyes this weekend in addition to MSU. The Spartans need to beat an undefeated Iowa team in 2 weeks to lock up a CFP birth.. If MSU beats a one loss Iowa they could get fucked and the committee takes a one loss Oklahoma to make up for stiffing Big 12 Baylor last year.

Worse is if OSU loses to umaa the loser of the Big Ten Championship get jumped because of umaa/Harbaugh mania. It's still possible one loss OSU jumps one loss Iowa for a New Years Bowl.
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Post by CORNER BLITZ 2015-11-22, 22:37

it would be a hilarious F you to delany and his garbage if the winner of tB1G championship didn't make it into the playoffs
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 22:39

Good god the Delany conspiracy shit here is getting out of control.
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Post by Giant Moose 2015-11-22, 22:43

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Good god the Delany conspiracy shit here is getting out of control.
Oh no, Delany's gotten to WBH. Looking ahead.... 1550444538
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2015-11-22, 22:44

For real.

I mentioned it earlier but Jim Delany is high on the list of reasons that a feasible big Ten team will always make the playoff. Dude is way more powerful than you think and dude really likes money. He isn't on Osu or ums side... He's on the side of the team that'll make the most money.
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Post by The_Dude 2015-11-22, 22:46

Cook is only worth 2.5?

Also seems hard to believe with a healthy Cook MSU wouldn't be favored. Iowa is a great matchup for MSU. They lack that downfield passing attack and their overall team speed doesn't seem to be that great.,

Also, once they lost Ott, their pass rush isn't good at all. Giving Cook all day to throw would be very bad for them.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-11-22, 22:49

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:For real.

I mentioned it earlier but Jim Delany is high on the list of reasons that a feasible big Ten team will always make the playoff. Dude is way more powerful than you think and dude really likes money. He isn't on Osu or ums side... He's on the side of the team that'll make the most money.
I'm in the middle on this. I think he would definitely prefer for a OSU/PSU/UM to be the conference's flagship. But yes, I agree he is one of, if not the most powerful dude in NCAA sports and he would back us like crazy if it ensured a playoff spot.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2015-11-22, 22:54

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:For real.

I mentioned it earlier but Jim Delany is high on the list of reasons that a feasible big Ten team will always make the playoff. Dude is way more powerful than you think and dude really likes money. He isn't on Osu or ums side... He's on the side of the team that'll make the most money.
I'm in the middle on this. I think he would definitely prefer for a OSU/PSU/UM to be the conference's flagship. But yes, I agree he is one of, if not the most powerful dude in NCAA sports and he would back us like crazy if it ensured a playoff spot.

The first part- cause money.

The second part- cause money.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2015-11-22, 22:55

Further-

Rutgers- cause money
Maryland- cause money
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Post by DWags 2015-11-22, 23:00

Is it true WBH is a Delany stooge now? Holy shit, how did he get to WBH?
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Post by Rocinante 2015-11-22, 23:03

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Post by Giant Moose 2015-11-22, 23:06

DWags wrote:Is it true WBH is a Delany stooge now? Holy shit, how did he get to WBH?
I thought something was up when WBH gave us like no chance to beat Ohio State. I'm starting to get scared. It's clear that Delany has infiltrated tSwill. Looking ahead.... 1550444538 Looking ahead.... 1550444538 Looking ahead.... 1550444538
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Post by DWags 2015-11-22, 23:08

Giant Moose wrote:
DWags wrote:Is it true WBH is a Delany stooge now? Holy shit, how did he get to WBH?
I thought something was up when WBH gave us like no chance to beat Ohio State. I'm starting to get scared. It's clear that Delany has infiltrated tSwill. Looking ahead.... 1550444538 Looking ahead.... 1550444538 Looking ahead.... 1550444538

Fuck. I think we need to legitimately cull some of these fuckers up in here. We got lazy and we've been infected.
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Post by tTy 2015-11-22, 23:10

Motherfucking liberal swill membership policies.
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Post by DWags 2015-11-22, 23:12

tTy wrote:Motherfucking liberal swill membership policies.

How much would it cost to build a big fire wall up to keep aliens out?
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Post by tTy 2015-11-22, 23:21

DWags wrote:
tTy wrote:Motherfucking liberal swill membership policies.

How much would it cost to build a big fire wall up to keep aliens out?

Who cares, I'll make tRCMB pay for it. DUH!
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Post by Guest 2015-11-23, 00:06

gHost Spartan wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Iowa has had some close games and needed a 50+FG to beat Pitt.

I don't discount Nebraska's chances in this Friday's game in Lincoln.

Root for the Hawkeyes and Buckeyes this weekend in addition to MSU. The Spartans need to beat an undefeated Iowa team in 2 weeks to lock up a CFP birth.. If MSU beats a one loss Iowa they could get fucked and the committee takes a one loss Oklahoma to make up for stiffing Big 12 Baylor last year.

Worse is if OSU loses to umaa the loser of the Big Ten Championship get jumped because of umaa/Harbaugh mania. It's still possible one loss OSU jumps one loss Iowa for a New Years Bowl.

Would a one loss Ohio State get the Rose over a one loss Iowa (in the B1G champ game)?

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