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Post by Vlad 2016-01-10, 16:38

These guys bring nothing to the game. Make it a requirement that the kicking, punting and long snapping must be done by regular starters at other positions. They play the majority of the game, so let THEM decide the final outcome.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-01-10, 16:41

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Post by Turtleneck 2016-01-10, 16:47

I'm a common fan, with no particular insight
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-01-10, 16:57

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Post by Turtleneck 2016-01-10, 17:20

I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.
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Post by Vlad 2016-01-10, 17:38

Turtleneck wrote:I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.
Turtleneck wrote:I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.

So you enjoy a 5-7, 160 lb hipster with a clean uniform and a name like Gustavo coming in to decide a football game, huh? Well, whatever man.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-01-10, 17:40

Vlad wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.
Turtleneck wrote:I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.

So you enjoy a 5-7, 160 lb hipster with a clean uniform and a name like Gustavo coming in to decide a football game, huh? Well, whatever man.

Assuming you're referring to the Vikings game... That game wouldn't have been "decided" at the end without Gustavo the hipster mother fucker. Note the number of points they had- 9. Three field goals. All of them (or 2 of them? 1 for sure) over 40 yards that no one else could have made.
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Post by Vlad 2016-01-10, 17:51

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Vlad wrote:

So you enjoy a 5-7, 160 lb hipster with a clean uniform and a name like Gustavo coming in to decide a football game, huh? Well, whatever man.

Assuming you're referring to the Vikings game... That game wouldn't have been "decided" at the end without Gustavo the hipster mother fucker. Note the number of points they had- 9. Three field goals. All of them (or 2 of them? 1 for sure) over 40 yards that no one else could have made.

So you enjoy watching Gustavo the skinny jeans wearin kicker kicking 45 yard FGs? Alright, whatever man.

99% of the game is played by big, storng, fast guys who practice the fundamentals of this sport. And then you send in Pierre to kick it. Great.
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Post by The Pantry 2016-01-10, 17:53

I feel bad for Walsh. He's got a hell of a leg. Holder didn't even attempt to rotate the laces
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Post by Ass Dan 2016-01-10, 18:01

What's wrong with being hip? I feel like that's supposed to be an insult but it makes no difference for or against your point. Gustavo or whomever is almost assuredly more athletic and skilled than any common fan.
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Post by The Pantry 2016-01-10, 18:02

Vlad wrote:These guys bring nothing to the game. Make it a requirement that the kicking, punting and long snapping must be done by regular starters at other positions. They play the majority of the game, so let THEM decide the final outcome.
Great idea. Have your kicker(s) have the potential to get racked-up making regular plays.

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Post by Turtleneck 2016-01-10, 18:03


Vlad wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.
Turtleneck wrote:I would be in favor of getting rid of XP kicking. Put ball at 1 for 1pt and 3 for 2pt attempt. But I think field goals and specialists should be part of game.

So you enjoy a 5-7, 160 lb hipster with a clean uniform and a name like Gustavo coming in to decide a football game, huh? Well, whatever man.

So you must have been super pissed when this happened...



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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-01-10, 18:04

The Pantry wrote:
Vlad wrote:These guys bring nothing to the game. Make it a requirement that the kicking, punting and long snapping must be done by regular starters at other positions. They play the majority of the game, so let THEM decide the final outcome.
Great idea. Have your kicker(s) have the potential to get racked-up making regular plays.

never seemed to bother George Blanda.
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Post by The Pantry 2016-01-10, 18:05

Vlad wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Assuming you're referring to the Vikings game... That game wouldn't have been "decided" at the end without Gustavo the hipster mother fucker. Note the number of points they had- 9. Three field goals. All of them (or 2 of them? 1 for sure) over 40 yards that no one else could have made.

So you enjoy watching Gustavo the skinny jeans wearin kicker kicking 45 yard FGs? Alright, whatever man.

99% of the game is played by big, storng, fast guys who practice the fundamentals of this sport. And then you send in Pierre to kick it. Great.
btw...you sound racist
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Post by The Pantry 2016-01-10, 18:12

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The Pantry wrote:Great idea. Have your kicker(s) have the potential to get racked-up making regular plays.

never seemed to bother George Blanda.
Good point. But, he was before all linemen weighed over 300# and the rest of the positions were turned into specialist positions.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-01-10, 18:14

The Pantry wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:never seemed to bother George Blanda.
Good point. But, he was before all linemen weighed over 300# and the rest of the positions were turned into specialist positions.
Good point about the lineman being 50 lbs heavier.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-01-10, 18:16

Ass Dan wrote:What's wrong with being hip? I feel like that's supposed to be an insult but it makes no difference for or against your point. Gustavo or whomever is almost assuredly more athletic and skilled than any common fan.


Vlad being Vlad. He enjoys being an asshole.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-01-10, 18:25

Vlad wrote:These guys bring nothing to the game. Make it a requirement that the kicking, punting and long snapping must be done by regular starters at other positions. They play the majority of the game, so let THEM decide the final outcome.

Must suck for you that MSU won big today huh?
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! 2016-01-10, 18:27

The Pantry wrote:I feel bad for Walsh.  He's got a hell of a leg.  Holder didn't even attempt to rotate the laces

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Post by Jake from State Farm 2016-01-10, 18:30

Vlad wrote:
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Assuming you're referring to the Vikings game... That game wouldn't have been "decided" at the end without Gustavo the hipster mother fucker. Note the number of points they had- 9. Three field goals. All of them (or 2 of them? 1 for sure) over 40 yards that no one else could have made.

So you enjoy watching Gustavo the skinny jeans wearin kicker kicking 45 yard FGs? Alright, whatever man.

99% of the game is played by big, storng, fast guys who practice the fundamentals of this sport. And then you send in Pierre to kick it. Great.

You should contact the NFL and let them know that you no longer want kicking to be a part of the game. Let us know how it turns out.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-01-10, 18:41

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Vlad wrote:

So you enjoy watching Gustavo the skinny jeans wearin kicker kicking 45 yard FGs? Alright, whatever man.

99% of the game is played by big, storng, fast guys who practice the fundamentals of this sport. And then you send in Pierre to kick it. Great.

You should contact the NFL and let them know that you no longer want kicking to be a part of the game. Let us know how it turns out.

Based on his descriptive comments, it sounds like he'd be fine with kickers if they dressed more like guys on the offensive line, got their haircuts at a barber shop, and change their names to Joe or Bob.
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Post by Vlad 2016-01-10, 18:43

The Pantry wrote:
Vlad wrote:

So you enjoy watching Gustavo the skinny jeans wearin kicker kicking 45 yard FGs? Alright, whatever man.

99% of the game is played by big, storng, fast guys who practice the fundamentals of this sport. And then you send in Pierre to kick it. Great.
btw...you sound racist

Really? Against which race?
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Post by Vlad 2016-01-10, 18:49

tGreenWay wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:

You should contact the NFL and let them know that you no longer want kicking to be a part of the game. Let us know how it turns out.

Based on his descriptive comments, it sounds like he'd be fine with kickers if they dressed more like guys on the offensive line, got their haircuts at a barber shop, and change their names to Joe or Bob.

Close, I would like kickers better if they could block, catch, tackle or run, in addition to kick. You know, do some of the other "football-ish" things that the game is base on. And if they EARN names like Pork Chop and Big Daddy.

But to be fair, flopping every time they get touched by a guy going for the block, yeah, that's pretty important too.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2016-01-10, 21:10

There's a reason every NFL team invites kickers in for tryouts every week. It's one of the least secure jobs in the league.

Last season the Lions drafted a kicker who was money at BC. Got to the NFL where he had to kick from the turf and he was cut. Pittsburgh went through 3 kickers.

The Vikings will have a new kicker next year.
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Post by Cameron 2016-01-10, 22:00

I don't think they should eliminate kickers, but I do think they should make the kicker do the punting. It's all leg shit, you only need one guy for that.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-01-10, 22:02

Cameron wrote:I don't think they should eliminate kickers, but I do think they should make the kicker do the punting. It's all leg shit, you only need one guy for that.

If that were possible, don't you think an NFL team would have already done it to free up a roster spot?
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Post by The Pantry 2016-01-10, 22:06

GRR Spartan wrote:The Vikings will have a new kicker next year.  
Doubt it.  Walsh is 12th in the league this year for FG% at 87.  6 of 8 from over 50 yards. 2nd in the league for FGs attempted at 39.

Made 3 of 4 FGs kicking in sub zero temps today.  Vikings will have their new indoor stadium open next fall.
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Post by Turtleneck 2016-01-10, 22:12

Even the Bills kept Scott Norwood around for one more season after that mishap in the Super Bowl.
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