A pretty disappointing end to a good recruiting season

A playoff team couldn't sign enough players to fill a class?? Other than Corley's commitment, not much good happened down the stretch. I know our coaches sent out that tweet in early Dec about not being able to recruit because they were preparing for the BTTG, but I didn't realize that they weren't planning to ever come back from Indy.

And for those who follow stars and rankings (let's face it, who doesn't?), our class is currently out of the top 20, and falling.

Biggest concerns for me:
1.  Where's the beef on the OL?
2.  With the loss of Robertson and questions around Jones and Evans...hmm...
3.  No RB (not that we necessarily needed one this year, but you gotta get at least one RB is each class)

[And a preemptive FU to Death Roe]

In B4 Death Roe.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote: by WhiteBoyHatcher Today at 9:53 am
Would be fun to watch the meltdown on the Bunker and the 247 site but my day is about to get hella busy. I'm sure there are going tobe some dudes panicking. In fact I'm sure Vlad is going to start a thread today here and have some good convos with the Dude.

Nailed it.

Vlad wrote:A playoff team couldn't sign enough players to fill a class?? Other than Corley's commitment, not much good happened down the stretch. I know our coaches sent out that tweet in early Dec about not being able to recruit because they were preparing for the BTTG, but I didn't realize that they weren't planning to ever come back from Indy.

And for those who follow stars and rankings (let's face it, who doesn't?), our class is currently out of the top 20, and falling.

Biggest concerns for me:
1.  Where's the beef on the OL?
2.  With the loss of Robertson and questions around Jones and Evans...hmm...
3.  No RB (not that we necessarily needed one this year, but you gotta get at least one RB is each class)

[And a preemptive FU to Death Roe]

remember.. some folks here aren't really supportive of opinions different from their own.

carry on.

I don't follow recruiting, I thought we had a top 10 class?

4 OL isn't enough?

InTenSity wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote: by WhiteBoyHatcher Today at 9:53 am
Would be fun to watch the meltdown on the Bunker and the 247 site but my day is about to get hella busy. I'm sure there are going tobe some dudes panicking. In fact I'm sure Vlad is going to start a thread today here and have some good convos with the Dude.

Nailed it.

Dude. John L Smith isn't our coach anymore. Get over your self-hatred and expectations of failure.

It's bad for your heart.

steveschneider wrote:I don't follow recruiting, I thought we had a top 10 class?

Yeah, we did...back in June.

Is Robertson a loss? He still has a decent shot to end up at MSU I think.

Lack of a speed RB is the real only concern.

However, yeah...MSU has extra schollies that weren't used this year. After our huge year thought we would have them all spoken for.

Tim Wakefield wrote:4 OL isn't enough?

Fuck you and your facts - we should have taken 16 OL.

Tim Wakefield wrote:4 OL isn't enough?

Their measurables aren't enough.

Yeah, I know....Mannie, but are these the type of kids who're going to protect our QB against the Bamas of the football world? Doubtful.

Vlad wrote:

steveschneider wrote:I don't follow recruiting, I thought we had a top 10 class?

Yeah, we did...back in June.

And EVERYONE then cautioned it would not remain a Top 10 class because of the size of the class. Conveniently forgotten now.

The_Dude wrote:Is Robertson a loss? He still has a decent shot to end up at MSU I think.

Lack of a speed RB is the real only concern.

However, yeah...MSU has extra schollies that weren't used this year. After our huge year thought we would have them all spoken for.

Robertson said he is "opening up" his recruitment (like a guy facing charges had many other options)...I'd say we have no better than a 15% chance of seeing him in green.

LooseGoose wrote:

Vlad wrote:

Yeah, we did...back in June.

And EVERYONE then cautioned it would not remain a Top 10 class because of the size of the class.   Conveniently forgotten now.

I'm not concerned about a top 10 finish. Wasn't expecting it, the way things were unfolding down the stretch. More concerned with lack of quality and numbers, especially on the OL where we still need to upgrade a lot. And now the DL too.

Vlad would drive 200 miles out of his way for a cloudy day and pee on a birthday cake.

Never seen anyone enjoy being miserable.

GRR Spartan wrote:Vlad would drive 200 miles out of his way for a cloudy day and pee on a birthday cake.

Never seen anyone enjoy being miserable.

If I'm driving that far to pee on someone's birthday cake, do you really think a few clouds are gonna stop me?? C'mon man!

In.

I don't really care.

"We have to recruit better to compete with UofM and OSU"

Sincerely,
Every recruiting fuck the past 6 years

Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

Vlad wrote:Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

Your hyperbole is hilarious.

Vlad wrote: More concerned with lack of quality and numbers, especially on the OL where we still need to upgrade a lot. And now the DL too.

Lack of quality? OK - this ignores that we signed the highest ranked recruits of the Dantonio era.

Lack of numbers? How many did you want to sign? 30? 40? I show right now we're still 1 scholarship OVER the limit and that's assuming Sweat is gone which may not be true. So you would need to name which current players you'd like to kick to the curb to sign some "beefy" snot nosed HS kids.

OL and DL? We signed 4OL and 4DL. How many do you feel should be in each class? What position do we cut out to sign those additional lineman?

Rather than your generalized bitching and moaning I'd love to see specific answers.

Vlad wrote:Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

Embarrassing? Get a grip, guy.

Sad life when you feel embarrassed about a college football recruiting class.

Vlad wrote:Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

So being over the scholarship limit is somehow not filling a class? Jeezus don't let facts get in the way.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Vlad wrote:Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

Embarrassing? Get a grip, guy.

Sad life when you feel embarrassed about a college football recruiting class.

In a football context, not in a general life context. (Remember, it's just sports, and yes, this is a bit embarrassing in a sports sense.)

LooseGoose wrote:

Vlad wrote: More concerned with lack of quality and numbers, especially on the OL where we still need to upgrade a lot. And now the DL too.

Lack of quality? OK - this ignores that we signed the highest ranked recruits of the Dantonio era.

Lack of numbers? How many did you want to sign? 30? 40? I show right now we're still 1 scholarship OVER the limit and that's assuming Sweat is gone which may not be true. So you would need to name which current players you'd like to kick to the curb to sign some "beefy" snot nosed HS kids.

OL and DL? We signed 4OL and 4DL. How many do you feel should be in each class? What position do we cut out to sign those additional lineman?

Rather than your generalized bitching and moaning I'd love to see specific answers.

What he said. Vlad is coming across as a total uninformed loser here

LooseGoose wrote:

Vlad wrote:Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

So being over the scholarship limit is somehow not filling a class?  Jeezus don't let facts get in the way.

Maybe you and I were following different recruiting seasons, but weren't we looking to sign an additional 3 to 4 players today??

Don't ask me about oversigning dude, that's a question for MD.

Also, I lost track but who was injured last season that will be returning next year? Feel like we have a great shot at competing in the Big 10 east next year.

Looks like UofM had a huge haul, but when don't they? Will be fun to beat them again in Spartan Stadium.

Rocinante wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Lack of quality? OK - this ignores that we signed the highest ranked recruits of the Dantonio era.

Lack of numbers? How many did you want to sign? 30? 40? I show right now we're still 1 scholarship OVER the limit and that's assuming Sweat is gone which may not be true. So you would need to name which current players you'd like to kick to the curb to sign some "beefy" snot nosed HS kids.

OL and DL? We signed 4OL and 4DL. How many do you feel should be in each class? What position do we cut out to sign those additional lineman?

Rather than your generalized bitching and moaning I'd love to see specific answers.

What he said. Vlad is coming across as a total uninformed loser here

More likely that I'm saying what you're thinking and feeling right now. But whatever.

Vlad wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Embarrassing? Get a grip, guy.

Sad life when you feel embarrassed about a college football recruiting class.

In a football context, not in a general life context. (Remember, it's just sports, and yes, this is a bit embarrassing in a sports sense.)

I still think it's sad in a football context. It's high school football players. Again, get a grip.

Vlad wrote:Just surprising as fuck that one of 4 playoff teams in the entire country couldn't manage to fill a recruiting class. A bit embarrassing actually.

The best recruiting class since who knows when = embarrassing. I would expect nothing less from you.

Vlad wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

What he said. Vlad is coming across as a total uninformed loser here

More likely that I'm saying what you're thinking and feeling right now. But whatever.

See, this is where you fail constantly. Not everyone, hell hardly anyone thinks like you.

Vlad wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

So being over the scholarship limit is somehow not filling a class?  Jeezus don't let facts get in the way.

Maybe you and I were following different recruiting seasons, but weren't we looking to sign an additional 3 to 4 players today??

Don't ask me about oversigning dude, that's a question for MD.

So the answer is that you have clue what you're pissing and moaning about. You saw people doing it elsewhere and decided to join the chorus, facts be damned.

There were players they would have found room for - they were NOT looking to fill a class. Different situations

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Vlad wrote:

In a football context, not in a general life context. (Remember, it's just sports, and yes, this is a bit embarrassing in a sports sense.)

I still think it's sad in a football context. It's high school football players. Again, get a grip.

Sorry to disappoint you. Will strive to do better.

Vlad wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I still think it's sad in a football context. It's high school football players. Again, get a grip.

Sorry to disappoint you. Will strive to do better.

No you won't.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Vlad wrote:

In a football context, not in a general life context. (Remember, it's just sports, and yes, this is a bit embarrassing in a sports sense.)

I still think it's sad in a football context. It's high school football players. Again, get a grip.

Hi otpt. Would you like to turn this thread into a thread about chipmunks with me? Here's a good one to get you started.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I still think it's sad in a football context. It's high school football players. Again, get a grip.

Hi otpt. Would you like to turn this thread into a thread about chipmunks with me? Here's a good one to get you started.

Hi Travis. How many nuts do you think a chipmunk could fit in those cheeks? More or less than Vlad?

SaltineSofa wrote:

Vlad wrote:

Maybe you and I were following different recruiting seasons, but weren't we looking to sign an additional 3 to 4 players today??

Don't ask me about oversigning dude, that's a question for MD.

So the answer is that you have clue what you're pissing and moaning about. You saw people doing it elsewhere and decided to join the chorus, facts be damned.

There were players they would have found room for - they were NOT looking to fill a class. Different situations

Good one! That's what we say when those SEC teams sign 30 players to a class, right??

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Vlad wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you. Will strive to do better.

No you won't.

You're right. No intentions to do so.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

I still think it's sad in a football context. It's high school football players. Again, get a grip.

Hi otpt. Would you like to turn this thread into a thread about chipmunks with me? Here's a good one to get you started.

I bet you love eating chipmunks, hillbilly.