Speaking of Kalin Lucas, has Maryland cost us two national titles?

Giant Moose wrote:2010: Kalin Lucas ruptures Achilles against them in the tourney -- MSU still makes it to Final Four but ultimately loses
2015: Connor Cook injures shoulder against them and is never really the same -- MSU still makes CFP but ultimately loses

F the Terps.

tGreenWay wrote:No, Tom Izzo cost us those two titles. Don't you remember?

Giant Moose wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:No, Tom Izzo cost us those two titles. Don't you remember?

He was at both of those games. Hmm...maybe he really is the problem. Let's have Jud coach basketball Final Fours and attend CFPs. Izzo is no longer allowed.

duffy munn wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
He was at both of those games. Hmm...maybe he really is the problem. Let's have Jud coach basketball Final Fours and attend CFPs. Izzo is no longer allowed.

I think I have figured out your schtick but I'm going to ask you a question anyway.

How long have you been a Spartan ? If you go back to pre-Izzo, times were not so good. When he is gone, I fear it will go back to not so good. Like maybe an occasional sweet 16.

Basically, I bet you would be much happier if you just enjoyed the ride and appreciated the final fours.

You may now go back to your repetitive schtick.

Giant Moose wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

I think I have figured out your schtick but I'm going to ask you a question anyway.

How long have you been a Spartan ? If you go back to pre-Izzo, times were not so good. When he is gone, I fear it will go back to not so good. Like maybe an occasional sweet 16.

Basically, I bet you would be much happier if you just enjoyed the ride and appreciated the final fours.

You may now go back to your repetitive schtick.

You are the same dude who criticized MSU legend Duffy Daugherty. Maybe you should have enjoyed him a little more?

duffy munn wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
You are the same dude who criticized MSU legend Duffy Daugherty. Maybe you should have enjoyed him a little more?

I was 9 years old when he retired. And , shockingly, you didn't answer my question. Schticks rarely do.

Giant Moose wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

I was 9 years old when he retired. And , shockingly, you didn't answer my question. Schticks rarely do.

Why would I give out personal information to a stalker? Maybe I should give my social security # and bank account to a Nigerian prince, too.

InTenSity wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
Why would I give out personal information to a stalker? Maybe I should give my social security # and bank account to a Nigerian prince, too.

Personal information. He asks how long you've been a Spartan, not your address. You really are a schtick.

InTenSity wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
Why would I give out personal information to a stalker? Maybe I should give my social security # and bank account to a Nigerian prince, too.

Personal information. He asks how long you've been a Spartan, not your address. You really are a schtick.

Blanch32 wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
Personal information. He asks how long you've been a Spartan, not your address. You really are a schtick.

Ladies and gentlemen looks like we have identified a new green seat mafia member! !

Giant Moose wrote:
Spartans are chosen by God before we are born. I have been a Spartan for all eternity.

InTenSity wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
Spartans are chosen by God before we are born. I have been a Spartan for all eternity.

It'd be pretty difficult to say you've been a Spartan for 16 years. Doesn't really matter though, you just enjoy pushing buttons. You and Bob should see who can be the most repetitive.

Giant Moose wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
It'd be pretty difficult to say you've been a Spartan for 16 years. Doesn't really matter though, you just enjoy pushing buttons. You and Bob should see who can be the most repetitive.

Whether I have been a Spartan for one day or one million days, I don't really see duffy's point. If his point was that I may be young and didn't see enough of Jud so I can't criticize Izzo then it makes no sense because he was young for Duffy Daugherty and still criticized him.

InTenSity wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
Whether I have been a Spartan for one day or one million days, I don't really see duffy's point. If his point was that I may be young and didn't see enough of Jud so I can't criticize Izzo then it makes no sense because he was young for Duffy Daugherty and still criticized him.

Then you are completely missing his point, or I'm missing his point. Basically, MSU has it really good right now. It is seriously the golden age of MSU athletics. If you can't enjoy it now, you aren't going to enjoy it. Replacing what Izzo has done for close to 20 years isn't going to be replicated by anyone who replaces him. MSU is going to miss out on even making the tournament, let alone making it out of the first weekend on a consistent basis. Does it suck to make it so close without winning it all, yup, but its a pretty damn decent consolation prize. So criticize and make fun of Izzo for not winning it all, when there are hundreds of schools that would be happy to have him on their sideline, because once he's gone, this ride, most likely is done.

Giant Moose wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
It'd be pretty difficult to say you've been a Spartan for 16 years. Doesn't really matter though, you just enjoy pushing buttons. You and Bob should see who can be the most repetitive.

Whether I have been a Spartan for one day or one million days, I don't really see duffy's point. If his point was that I may be young and didn't see enough of Jud so I can't criticize Izzo then it makes no sense because he was young for Duffy Daugherty and still criticized him.

Giant Moose wrote:2010: Kalin Lucas ruptures Achilles against them in the tourney -- MSU still makes it to Final Four but ultimately loses
2015: Connor Cook injures shoulder against them and is never really the same -- MSU still makes CFP but ultimately loses

F the Terps.

Giant Moose wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
Then you are completely missing his point, or I'm missing his point. Basically, MSU has it really good right now. It is seriously the golden age of MSU athletics. If you can't enjoy it now, you aren't going to enjoy it. Replacing what Izzo has done for close to 20 years isn't going to be replicated by anyone who replaces him. MSU is going to miss out on even making the tournament, let alone making it out of the first weekend on a consistent basis. Does it suck to make it so close without winning it all, yup, but its a pretty damn decent consolation prize. So criticize and make fun of Izzo for not winning it all, when there are hundreds of schools that would be happy to have him on their sideline, because once he's gone, this ride, most likely is done.

This era needs a little perspective is what I am saying. We have gotten to the point where we glamorize these Final Fours a little too much instead of the ultimate goal of actually winning the whole damn thing.

MSU won one national title in 19 years of Jud and another national title in 20 years with Izzo. We can't replicate 1 national title in 20 years with whoever is next? I don't think that's impossible. Hell, maybe the next guy can win 2 national titles in 20 years.

tGreenWay wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
This era needs a little perspective is what I am saying. We have gotten to the point where we glamorize these Final Fours a little too much instead of the ultimate goal of actually winning the whole damn thing.

MSU won one national title in 19 years of Jud and another national title in 20 years with Izzo. We can't replicate 1 national title in 20 years with whoever is next? I don't think that's impossible. Hell, maybe the next guy can win 2 national titles in 20 years.

You really have no understanding, let alone appreciation, for how hard it is to win a basketball title. But, I do understand there are some people who feed off their misery. Being miserable is when they're happiest.

Giant Moose wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
Then you are completely missing his point, or I'm missing his point. Basically, MSU has it really good right now. It is seriously the golden age of MSU athletics. If you can't enjoy it now, you aren't going to enjoy it. Replacing what Izzo has done for close to 20 years isn't going to be replicated by anyone who replaces him. MSU is going to miss out on even making the tournament, let alone making it out of the first weekend on a consistent basis. Does it suck to make it so close without winning it all, yup, but its a pretty damn decent consolation prize. So criticize and make fun of Izzo for not winning it all, when there are hundreds of schools that would be happy to have him on their sideline, because once he's gone, this ride, most likely is done.

This era needs a little perspective is what I am saying. We have gotten to the point where we glamorize these Final Fours a little too much instead of the ultimate goal of actually winning the whole damn thing.

MSU won one national title in 19 years of Jud and another national title in 20 years with Izzo. We can't replicate 1 national title in 20 years with whoever is next? I don't think that's impossible. Hell, maybe the next guy can win 2 national titles in 20 years.

duffy munn wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:
This era needs a little perspective is what I am saying. We have gotten to the point where we glamorize these Final Fours a little too much instead of the ultimate goal of actually winning the whole damn thing.

MSU won one national title in 19 years of Jud and another national title in 20 years with Izzo. We can't replicate 1 national title in 20 years with whoever is next? I don't think that's impossible. Hell, maybe the next guy can win 2 national titles in 20 years.

Here's the problem with your fucked up logic: the next guy most likely will not be here for 20 years. Hell, we could have 4 guys here in the next 20 years.

Again, the odds of this run be duplicated are huge. Go ahead and piss on being in contention to win it all nearly every year. I'm sorry you can't enjoy this great program. Sorry the Final Fours are meaningless to you. You are really going to be a mess if we start missing tourneys, coaches get fired and we go back to what MSU basketball was before Tom Izzo.

Jud caught lightening in a bottle with Magic and won it all. He never got back to a Final Four. And finally, I promise not to share your person information if you let me know when you were a student at MSU. Although I suppose I could cross reference those years with the other 100,000 students and try to get you fired from your job.

Giant Moose wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
Then you are completely missing his point, or I'm missing his point. Basically, MSU has it really good right now. It is seriously the golden age of MSU athletics. If you can't enjoy it now, you aren't going to enjoy it. Replacing what Izzo has done for close to 20 years isn't going to be replicated by anyone who replaces him. MSU is going to miss out on even making the tournament, let alone making it out of the first weekend on a consistent basis. Does it suck to make it so close without winning it all, yup, but its a pretty damn decent consolation prize. So criticize and make fun of Izzo for not winning it all, when there are hundreds of schools that would be happy to have him on their sideline, because once he's gone, this ride, most likely is done.

This era needs a little perspective is what I am saying. We have gotten to the point where we glamorize these Final Fours a little too much instead of the ultimate goal of actually winning the whole damn thing.

MSU won one national title in 19 years of Jud and another national title in 20 years with Izzo. We can't replicate 1 national title in 20 years with whoever is next? I don't think that's impossible. Hell, maybe the next guy can win 2 national titles in 20 years.

yeah but we've got a lot of participation banners hanging in the rafters. I think you forget that.

InTenSity wrote:

yeah but we've got a lot of participation banners hanging in the rafters. I think you forget that.

It was scholarship Tennis, wasn't it? You and Tanfan played and he kicked your ass, and since then you've resented MSU, but then they accepted you into their masters program and you've been going to counseling ever since.

Giant Moose wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

Here's the problem with your fucked up logic: the next guy most likely will not be here for 20 years. Hell, we could have 4 guys here in the next 20 years.

Again, the odds of this run be duplicated are huge. Go ahead and piss on being in contention to win it all nearly every year. I'm sorry you can't enjoy this great program. Sorry the Final Fours are meaningless to you. You are really going to be a mess if we start missing tourneys, coaches get fired and we go back to what MSU basketball was before Tom Izzo.

Jud caught lightening in a bottle with Magic and won it all. He never got back to a Final Four. And finally, I promise not to share your person information if you let me know when you were a student at MSU. Although I suppose I could cross reference those years with the other 100,000 students and try to get you fired from your job.

You are really negative about our next coach for some reason. You can get a great coach after your coach leaves, you know. UNC has done well after Smith. Louisville has done well after Crum. UConn has done well after Calhoun. There's no reason we can't find a coach to win a national championship or potentially more after Izzo leaves.

I refuse to accept that Izzo's 1 national title in 20 years can't be replicated when UNC, UL, and UConn have all done that since their legends left.

Following this legend is going to be incredibly difficult. Expecting the next guy to do what Izzo has done in unrealistic. Once again I'm sorry Izzo has been such a disappointment to you. When he is gone, I'm afraid your disappointment will be off the charts.

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:MOOSE IS A BLUE!!!

InTenSity wrote:

Following this legend is going to be incredibly difficult. Expecting the next guy to do what Izzo has done in unrealistic. Once again I'm sorry Izzo has been such a disappointment to you. When he is gone, I'm afraid your disappointment will be off the charts.

At that point, if we're still around, the complaint will be that the new coach isn't like Izzo enough.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

InTenSity wrote:
At that point, if we're still around, the complaint will be that the new coach isn't like Izzo enough.

what do you know that we don't?

Zika? ISIS?

Trump?

InTenSity wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:what do you know that we don't?

Zika? ISIS?

Trump?

Whens the last time you saw SRC post here? What happens when the owners leave and turn off the lights? Where do we go from there?

duffy munn wrote:

Giant Moose wrote:

You are really negative about our next coach for some reason. You can get a great coach after your coach leaves, you know. UNC has done well after Smith. Louisville has done well after Crum. UConn has done well after Calhoun. There's no reason we can't find a coach to win a national championship or potentially more after Izzo leaves.

I refuse to accept that Izzo's 1 national title in 20 years can't be replicated when UNC, UL, and UConn have all done that since their legends left.

I'm not being negative about a coach that has not yet been identified. I'm being real. Until Izzo came along, MSU had very little basketball success.  One national title and 2 meaningless final fours in like 90 years. It's why I find it funny when people call MSU a basketball school.

We are not UNC. As you so redundantly  like to point out. Duke wasn't even Duke until Coach K. There are no guarantees for the guy that replaces him.

Following this legend is going to be incredibly difficult. Expecting the next guy to do what Izzo has done in unrealistic. Once again I'm sorry Izzo has been such a disappointment to you. When he is gone, I'm afraid your disappointment will be off the charts.

Giant Moose wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

I'm not being negative about a coach that has not yet been identified. I'm being real. Until Izzo came along, MSU had very little basketball success.  One national title and 2 meaningless final fours in like 90 years. It's why I find it funny when people call MSU a basketball school.

We are not UNC. As you so redundantly  like to point out. Duke wasn't even Duke until Coach K. There are no guarantees for the guy that replaces him.

Following this legend is going to be incredibly difficult. Expecting the next guy to do what Izzo has done in unrealistic. Once again I'm sorry Izzo has been such a disappointment to you. When he is gone, I'm afraid your disappointment will be off the charts.

Whoever our next coach or coaches are, I think MSU can and will win a title within 20 years. Jud did it. Izzo did it. The future is bright.

Giant Moose wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

I'm not being negative about a coach that has not yet been identified. I'm being real. Until Izzo came along, MSU had very little basketball success.  One national title and 2 meaningless final fours in like 90 years. It's why I find it funny when people call MSU a basketball school.

We are not UNC. As you so redundantly  like to point out. Duke wasn't even Duke until Coach K. There are no guarantees for the guy that replaces him.

Following this legend is going to be incredibly difficult. Expecting the next guy to do what Izzo has done in unrealistic. Once again I'm sorry Izzo has been such a disappointment to you. When he is gone, I'm afraid your disappointment will be off the charts.

Whoever our next coach or coaches are, I think MSU can and will win a title within 20 years. Jud did it. Izzo did it. The future is bright.