Fucking cowards.

Rocinante wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

What about Pearl Harbor?

Right on time: "what about o' dubya dubya 2, buddy?"

As soon as you figure out what country is attacking, let me know.

Rocinante wrote:

CORNER BLITZ wrote:

I think he just said that violence solved the problem

Not really. Allying with the rest of the world solved the problem. And defending sovereign nations from other sovereign nations is not on any way the same as meeting random terror with other random terror.

xsanguine wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

Not really. Allying with the rest of the world solved the problem. And defending sovereign nations from other sovereign nations is not on any way the same as meeting random terror with other random terror.

Right. Allying with the rest of the world and bombing and shooting the fuck out of the enemy (Japan and Germany).

I'm a very non-violence kind of guy... But you can't tell me violence doesn't get shit done.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

Right. Allying with the rest of the world and bombing and shooting the fuck out of the enemy (Japan and Germany).

I'm a very non-violence kind of guy... But you can't tell me violence doesn't get shit done.

Misplaced violence created ISIS. I know that.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

Right. Allying with the rest of the world and bombing and shooting the fuck out of the enemy (Japan and Germany).

I'm a very non-violence kind of guy... But you can't tell me violence doesn't get shit done.

Misplaced violence created ISIS. I know that.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Misplaced violence created ISIS. I know that.

Hey pylon, you haven't been around much the last few days. Miss you. :( love love.

xsanguine wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Misplaced violence created ISIS. I know that.

Yes, it did.

Is the lesson to misplace violence, or calculated violence? No violence at all? And if so, any response or changes to how things are currently done?

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Hey pylon, you haven't been around much the last few days. Miss you. :( love love.

Yeah, we all know why I think. Don't want to start that discussion up again. We'll see how it goes.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

Yes, it did.

Is the lesson to misplace violence, or calculated violence? No violence at all? And if so, any response or changes to how things are currently done?

No one has the right answer. There really isn't a good answer, I don't think. It's a big shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.

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Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

Right. Allying with the rest of the world and bombing and shooting the fuck out of the enemy (Japan and Germany).

I'm a very non-violence kind of guy... But you can't tell me violence doesn't get shit done.

Misplaced violence created ISIS. I know that.

xsanguine wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

No one has the right answer. There really isn't a good answer, I don't think. It's a big shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.

That's all I can come up with, too.

The_Dude wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

That's all I can come up with, too.

We have to be harder with how we assimilate immigrants, as does Western Europe. You want to live in America? Then fucking learn English and Western values. Most of these guys are second generation Muslims with a massive identity crisis because they never assimilated and the liberal crowd made excuses for them.

xsanguine wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

We have to be harder with how we assimilate immigrants, as does Western Europe. You want to live in America? Then fucking learn English and Western values. Most of these guys are second generation Muslims with a massive identity crisis because they never assimilated and the liberal crowd made excuses for them.

I think eliminate borders and governments... But I'm not known for my solutions so I'll just mock everyone from the sidelines.

The_Dude wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

I think eliminate borders and governments... But I'm not known for my solutions so I'll just mock everyone from the sidelines.

People on the left really do have fucked up views of the world, and its coming home to roost.

Lets just all be citizens of the world, no borders, no nothing. Just all be global citizens!

Tim Wakefield wrote:

Rocinante wrote:It makes me sad that the first thing most people do is scream for revenge, as if meeting violence with violence has ever solved any problem.

What do you propose?

Cameron wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

You never have solutions. Just here to mock people. Now run along and let Joe Rogan do your thinking for you.

I like Joe Rogan.

Giant Moose wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

We never had a winter. Which was odd since this is WNY. Is was pretty much like March the whole winter.

Dammit. March in January? That's why we peaked early. F, Mother Nature.

Rocinante wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

Right. Allying with the rest of the world and bombing and shooting the fuck out of the enemy (Japan and Germany).

I'm a very non-violence kind of guy... But you can't tell me violence doesn't get shit done.

The question is, what?

I'm not anti defending yourself, but the policy of meeting bombings in western countries by bombing in middle Eastern countries has been proven to be useless.

It takes brains, and compassion, and spine, not violence.

xsanguine wrote:

Cameron wrote:

I like Joe Rogan.

He's alright.

I'm a long time member of his forum... Which has Turtleneck all kinds of jealous.

xsanguine wrote:Turtleneck likes Nickelback.

LooseGoose wrote:

xsanguine wrote:Turtleneck likes Nickelback.

Seeing it in writing, it all makes sense.

Turtleneck wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

He's alright.

I'm a long time member of his forum... Which has Turtleneck all kinds of jealous.

I think he is poorly educated and would be surprised if he knows how to read.

Rocinante wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

I agree with ya more than I disagree with ya, Roc. I just wanted to nitpick so I could argue a very specific point.

This shit between Islam and Christianity (which is now the secular west) has been going on for a very long time.

It's going to continue until one side eliminates the other. Happy endings only happen in the movies and massage parlours.

No, it will continue as long as strong people allow bad people to exploit the fears of weak people.

Rocinante wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

This sounds like something a politician or MSNBC/FoxNews pundit would say, Roc.

"They're just going to kill each other forever, so we should accept it" sounds like something a coward who won't take responsibility for the world he lives in would say.

xsanguine wrote:

Rocinante wrote:

The question is, what?

I'm not anti defending yourself, but the policy of meeting bombings in western countries by bombing in middle Eastern countries has been proven to be useless.

It takes brains, and compassion, and spine, not violence.

I agree with ya more than I disagree with ya, Roc. I just wanted to nitpick so I could argue a very specific point.

This shit between Islam and Christianity (which is now the secular west) has been going on for a very long time.

It's going to continue until one side eliminates the other. Happy endings only happen in the movies and massage parlours.

steveschneider wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

I agree with ya more than I disagree with ya, Roc. I just wanted to nitpick so I could argue a very specific point.

This shit between Islam and Christianity (which is now the secular west) has been going on for a very long time.

It's going to continue until one side eliminates the other. Happy endings only happen in the movies and massage parlours.

I'm more optimistic that we will learn how to settle our differences.

I think at some point after a massive ecological catastrophe like global warming or vital part of the food web going extinct like bees that the last remaining bits of the human species will find common ground and work together to survive.

steveschneider wrote:

xsanguine wrote:

I agree with ya more than I disagree with ya, Roc. I just wanted to nitpick so I could argue a very specific point.

This shit between Islam and Christianity (which is now the secular west) has been going on for a very long time.

It's going to continue until one side eliminates the other. Happy endings only happen in the movies and massage parlours.

I'm more optimistic that we will learn how to settle our differences.

I think at some point after a massive ecological catastrophe like global warming or vital part of the food web going extinct like bees that the last remaining bits of the human species will find common ground and work together to survive.

The math says that if you lose 30 percent of your bee colonies every year for a few years, you rapidly end up with close to 0 colonies left. But get a load of this data on the number of active bee colonies in the U.S. since 1987. Pay particular attention to the period after 2006, when CCD was first documented.

LooseGoose wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

I'm more optimistic that we will learn how to settle our differences.

I think at some point after a massive ecological catastrophe like global warming or vital part of the food web going extinct like bees that the last remaining bits of the human species will find common ground and work together to survive.

Well except for that bee thing being another media fed bunch of hysteria....

Bee-pocaclypse called off, bees doing OK, global warming was never a cause

The math says that if you lose 30 percent of your bee colonies every year for a few years, you rapidly end up with close to 0 colonies left. But get a load of this data on the number of active bee colonies in the U.S. since 1987. Pay particular attention to the period after 2006, when CCD was first documented.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

People on the left really do have fucked up views of the world, and its coming home to roost.

Lets just all be citizens of the world, no borders, no nothing. Just all be global citizens!

He's.... Uh.... Serious. And definitely not on "the left." But it's all got to be those goddamn liberals! Fuck em!

LooseGoose wrote:

steveschneider wrote:

I'm more optimistic that we will learn how to settle our differences.

I think at some point after a massive ecological catastrophe like global warming or vital part of the food web going extinct like bees that the last remaining bits of the human species will find common ground and work together to survive.

Well except for that bee thing being another media fed bunch of hysteria....

Bee-pocaclypse called off, bees doing OK, global warming was never a cause

The math says that if you lose 30 percent of your bee colonies every year for a few years, you rapidly end up with close to 0 colonies left. But get a load of this data on the number of active bee colonies in the U.S. since 1987. Pay particular attention to the period after 2006, when CCD was first documented.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Well except for that bee thing being another media fed bunch of hysteria....

Bee-pocaclypse called off, bees doing OK, global warming was never a cause

I'm going to believe peer reviewed scientific journals before I believe an obviously biased website called wattsupwiththat.com. Call me crazy.

SCIENCE!!!