Spartan Swill
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

This wind power is a great thing....

5 posters

Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Guest Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:12 pm

......we should do more of this in Michigan. Then maybe we can have vistas dotted with wrecked windmills
like out west.

Why the Free Market Cannot Provide Renewable Energy Without the Government

Lake Land College recently announced plans to tear down broken wind turbines on campus, after the school got $987,697.20 in taxpayer support for wind power.

The turbines were funded by a $2.5 million grant from the U.S. Department of Labor, but the turbines lasted for less than four years and were incredibly costly to maintain.

“Since the installation in 2012, the college has spent $240,000 in parts and labor to maintain the turbines,” Kelly Allee, Director of Public Relations at Lake Land College, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

The college estimates it would take another $100,000 in repairs to make the turbines function again after one of them was struck by lightning and likely suffered electrical damage last summer. School officials’ original estimates found the turbine[s] would save it $44,000 in electricity annually, far more than the $8,500 they actually generated. Under the original optimistic scenario, the turbines would have to last for 22.5 years just to recoup the costs, not accounting for inflation. If viewed as an investment, the turbines had a return of negative 99.14 percent.

The free market functions efficiently because it is compelled by reality to do what works. Something that produces a negative return of 99.14% does not work; therefore, the free market cannot provide it. But government exists in a realm of sheer moonbattery, where reality does not apply.

[College president Josh] Bullock states that the turbines simply haven’t been able to power the campus’ buildings…

At least a lesson was learned. Or maybe not:

Lake Land plans to replace the two failed turbines with a solar power system paid for by a government grant. “[T]he photovoltaic panels are expected to save the college between $50,000 and $60,000 this year,” Allee told the DCNF.
Anonymous
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Gomer Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:17 pm

Do you understand the concept of negative externalities and how they relate to energy production (and consumption for that matter)?
Gomer
Gomer
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 1461
Join date : 2014-04-18

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Guest Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:01 pm

Gomer wrote:Do you understand the concept of negative externalities and how they relate to energy production (and consumption for that matter)?

Yes, I think about them all the time.

Especially when I see wave after wave of broken down windmills out west that wreck my view and wouldn't have existed without the government paying to put them there.

Luckily we have the party of science in power right now so this shit should be ending and we should be doing more fracking....oh....wait...

Research university hides results of fracking study which fails to prove it’s dangerous

What happens when a university research department is tasked with conducting a study of the harmful effects of fracking on ground water and other environmental concerns? Well, that depends on who provides their research money and what the results turn out to be. In the case of the University of Cincinnati, a lot of their funding comes from groups which have a vested interest in proving how harmful fracking is so it’s hardly a surprise that they lost interest in the study when it failed to produce any evidence of ground water contamination near commercial fracking sites.

Jeff Stier, senior fellow and head of the Risk Analysis Division at the National Center for Public Policy Research in Washington provides a detailed report at Newsweek.

Geologists at the University of Cincinnati just wrapped up a three-year investigation of hydraulic fracturing and its impact on local water supplies.

The result? There’s no evidence—zero, zilch, nada—that fracking contaminates drinking water. Researchers hoped to keep these findings secret.

Why would a public research university boasting a top-100 geology program deliberately hide its work? Because, as lead researcher Amy Townsend-Small explained, “our funders, the groups that had given us funding in the past, were a little disappointed in our results. They feel that fracking is scary and so they were hoping our data could point to a reason to ban it.”

The funding groups were a little disappointed in the results. How terrible for them. We do so hate to see anyone go away disappointed. But to have this research basically squashed with no public release after three years of investigative work is unforgivable. I wonder if it also added to their disappointment to discover that the oil and gas industry was providing more than 2 million jobs in the United States and is projected to increase that number to 5 million by 2025.

None of this will be “news” to anyone who has been following developments in the industry. This evidence has been stacking up for a while now, as we saw in previous studies conducted in both Texas and Ohio which were originally going to prove how terrible and toxic fracking is.
Anonymous
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Guest Mon May 22, 2017 9:47 am

Three whales wash up dead on UK coast and two are injured 'after becoming distressed by offshore windfarm'
Anonymous
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by NigelUno Mon May 22, 2017 11:17 am

This wind power is a great thing.... Cd7932e248c306561f02781d3ba3a064
avatar
NigelUno
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 34426
Join date : 2014-04-17

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by GRR Spartan Mon May 22, 2017 11:45 am

Government investment in new engery infrastructure is a waste of government money. The Tennessee Valley Authority and Grand Coulee projects would have happened on their own. Eventually.

Meanwhile much of the Deep South would have been in the dark while Boeing and other aircraft manufacturers along with ship builders in Portland and Seattle would never had power to build what was needed for WW2.

No use arguing with Luddites.
GRR Spartan
GRR Spartan
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 10532
Join date : 2014-04-25

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Rocinante Mon May 22, 2017 1:07 pm

Moon battery and hot air. I mean... really.
Rocinante
Rocinante
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 20582
Join date : 2014-04-21
Location : East Lansing, MI

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Guest Mon May 22, 2017 1:08 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:No use arguing with Luddites.

....so you support killing the whales?
Anonymous
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Rocinante Mon May 22, 2017 1:12 pm

LooseGoose wrote:Three whales wash up dead on UK coast and two are injured 'after becoming distressed by offshore windfarm'

I love how there's actually no evidence that the wind farms had anything to do with the deaths.

Meanwhile the evidence of fracking as a health threat for humans continues to rise.
Rocinante
Rocinante
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 20582
Join date : 2014-04-21
Location : East Lansing, MI

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by GRR Spartan Mon May 22, 2017 1:48 pm

Suddenly we have an environmentalist in our midst.

Like a lot of new technology sometimes it gets placed in less than optimum places.

Another dirty little secret is our education and apprentice programs have fallen woefully shot in supplying qualified personnel.

A windfarm without maintence is of no good to anyone.
GRR Spartan
GRR Spartan
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 10532
Join date : 2014-04-25

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by NigelUno Mon May 22, 2017 2:17 pm

This wind power is a great thing.... 635775926323369153-B9318810592Z.1-20150911170830-000-G2TBT4C5I.1-0
avatar
NigelUno
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 34426
Join date : 2014-04-17

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by xsanguine Mon May 22, 2017 2:23 pm

NigelUno wrote:This wind power is a great thing.... 635775926323369153-B9318810592Z.1-20150911170830-000-G2TBT4C5I.1-0

I like this model better than this model...

This wind power is a great thing.... WindPower
xsanguine
xsanguine
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 9838
Join date : 2014-04-23
Location : Hijackin' Threads

Back to top Go down

This wind power is a great thing.... Empty Re: This wind power is a great thing....

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum