is tum the worst starting pg...

I'd pay 50 to see that.

I don't know that much about it but I am certain that he's better than I am.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I'll throw in $20 to set up a 1 on 1 between OTPT and Tum Tum. Can someone Periscope that shit?

Matty can.

MattyFresh wrote:Not the worst but bottom tier PG starter. Never developed confidence in his game, he's an elite athlete but never has cracked his potential. He's definitely not the worst starter on the team or in the big ten. That's McQuaid for us and numerous others throughout he league

name one

InTenSity wrote:

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I'll throw in $20 to set up a 1 on 1 between OTPT and Tum Tum. Can someone Periscope that shit?

Matty can.

OK, now we just need to get these three together on a basketball court!

I've got $5k on Tum. More if I can get my hands on it without alerting tWife.

I'd put a grand Tum could pick his score. I'd put 500 that not one poster on this board could cleanly dribble the ball down past the free throw line without Tum disturbing it.

DWags wrote:

tanfan! wrote:

Last year MSU had three NBA players on its roster and lost in the first round. I could care less as this year has been a complete disaster in football and basketball. Even tom doesn't care. LOL. When I read that I knew it would drive the blow er contingent crazy. Just laughed my ass off.

Dude, they're saying MSU sucks in the free press comments section. Please go straighten them out.

Thanks from the swill.

Tanner is a big time optimist at the Freep. Ripping people for saying pretty much the exact same things there that he says here.

Bi-polar.

duffy munn wrote:

DWags wrote:

Dude, they're saying MSU sucks in the free press comments section. Please go straighten them out.

Thanks from the swill.

Tanner is a big time optimist at the Freep. Ripping people for saying pretty much the exact same things there that he says here.

Bi-polar.

Muffy. I can't disagree with them now.

tanfan! wrote:

duffy munn wrote:


Tanner is a big time optimist at the Freep. Ripping people for saying pretty much the exact same things there that he says here.

Bi-polar.

Muffy. I can't disagree with them now.

Yeah, kinda hard to comment on something you didn't watch. Funny how you are able to do that here.

DWags wrote:I'd put a grand Tum could pick his score. I'd put 500 that not one poster on this board could cleanly dribble the ball down past the free throw line without Tum disturbing it.

tum never goes for the steal, so that's impossible to know if true.

If we somehow get past Miami, Tum Tum vs Frank Mason will be

MSU will need Ward to go nuts, not turn it over, and hit double digit 3s.

duffy munn wrote:

tanfan! wrote:

Muffy. I can't disagree with them now.

Yeah, kinda hard to comment on something you didn't watch. Funny how you are able to do that here.

It doesn't take more than a few minutes of watching to arrive at the conclusion msu hoops sucks this year. Same with football. I never saw one second of the Minnesota game. I didn't know we lost until I got an angry text.  It's been wonderful.  I love how you bl owers deflect and change the subject to an attack as a means of voicing your displeasure with the state of Msu athletics. .its how you guys cope. But you're a miserable piece of shit in my book so it's what I expected.

Tanfan text club fillin gin each other as the game goes on.

tanfan! wrote:

duffy munn wrote:


Yeah, kinda hard to comment on something you didn't watch. Funny how you are able to do that here.

It doesn't take more than a few minutes of watching to arrive at the conclusion msu hoops sucks this year. Same with football. I never saw one second of the Minnesota game. I didn't know we lost until I got an angry text.  It's been wonderful.  I love how you bl owers deflect and change the subject to an attack as a means of voicing your displeasure with the state of Msu athletics. .its how you guys cope. But you're a miserable piece of shit in my book so it's what I expected.

"Petulant child."

The_Dude wrote:If we somehow get past Miami, Tum Tum vs Frank Mason will be

MSU will need Ward to go nuts, not turn it over, and hit double digit 3s.

It's such a joke that opposing point guards taunt him to shoot, which he promptly gives up the open look to pass it off to someone else every fucking time. I thought he was a senior. Too bad.

DWags wrote:  

Tanfan text club fillin gin each  other as the game goes on.  

Actually, I will get the occasional, "Tum Tum sucks" text during a game or "this team sucks" and that's how I know we are playing.  Sometimes one of the guys will lash out and then I realize we lost yet another game.  My weekends aren't spent lashing out at the DEs as a coping mechanism like you guys do. I won't be watching the Miami game. I don't even know what day it's on.

I think if we had anyone other than tum tum who could put up 8 to 10 points a game during his minutes, we would have won 5 more games this year. But hell, I stopped watching, but I saw a lot of close games where points at his position might have made a difference. Pure speculation, but carry on with your sun shine

tanfan! wrote:

The_Dude wrote:If we somehow get past Miami, Tum Tum vs Frank Mason will be

MSU will need Ward to go nuts, not turn it over, and hit double digit 3s.

It's such a joke that opposing point guards taunt him to shoot, which he promptly gives up the open look to pass it off to someone else every fucking time. I thought he was a senior. Too bad.

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

The_Dude wrote:

tanfan! wrote:

It's such a joke that opposing point guards taunt him to shoot, which he promptly gives up the open look to pass it off to someone else every fucking time. I thought he was a senior. Too bad.

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

The_Dude wrote:

tanfan! wrote:

It's such a joke that opposing point guards taunt him to shoot, which he promptly gives up the open look to pass it off to someone else every fucking time. I thought he was a senior. Too bad.

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

Walton became a scoring threat and he produced!

tanfan! wrote:

The_Dude wrote:If we somehow get past Miami, Tum Tum vs Frank Mason will be

MSU will need Ward to go nuts, not turn it over, and hit double digit 3s.

It's such a joke that opposing point guards taunt him to shoot, which he promptly gives up the open look to pass it off to someone else every fucking time. I thought he was a senior. Too bad.

I guess in this case, every fucking time is in the 2 hours you watched out of 30 games.

Periscope? Is this going to be played on an aircraft carrier and we get to watch from the submarine?

tanfan! wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

The_Dude wrote:

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

Walton became a scoring threat and he produced!

Walton vs USC was fucking magical.

Honestly, do you think there is a worse starting PG in the tourney? Even the scrub 16 seeds probably have better point guard play.

Sigh

The_Dude wrote:Honestly, do you think there is a worse starting PG in the tourney?  Even the scrub 16 seeds probably have better point guard play.

Sigh

#hottakes

tanfan! wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

The_Dude wrote:

Can't anyone that is at least a good enough athlete to play guard at the D1 level learn how to shoot a jumpshot that isnt straight garbage?

Hell, even Walton could hit down jumpers later in his career.

Walton became a scoring threat and he produced!

early onset dementia has finally hit.

Blanch32 wrote:

MattyFresh wrote:Not the worst but bottom tier PG starter. Never developed confidence in his game, he's an elite athlete but never has cracked his potential. He's definitely not the worst starter on the team or in the big ten. That's McQuaid for us and numerous others throughout he league

name one

Iowa's pg, Williams

The_Dude wrote:Honestly, do you think there is a worse starting PG in the tourney? Even the scrub 16 seeds probably have better point guard play.

Sigh

Would Tum even be average in D2?

1979 nc game. A little guard named Terry donelly who really never shot much was left wide open like tum tum. Like balls of steal Terry took those wide open shots while they double teamed kelser or magic. Swooshed then all. Every one that I recall. Indiana state was toast.

tanfan! wrote:1979 nc game. A little guard named Terry donelly who really never shot much was left wide open like tum tum. Like balls of steal Terry took those wide open shots while they double teamed kelser or magic. Swooshed then all. Every one that I recall. Indiana state was toast.

Five for five. Five of six from the line. Averaged six a game had 15. Top ten in unsung hero of NCAA tournament.

Story from four years ago

Donnelley tears it up

tanfan! wrote:1979 nc game. A little guard named Terry donelly who really never shot much was left wide open like tum tum. Like balls of steal Terry took those wide open shots while they double teamed kelser or magic. Swooshed then all. Every one that I recall. Indiana state was toast.

That was one helluva fun title run. I was st Market Square Arena in Indy to see us boot LSU and then crush Digger's only hopes of a championship.

lolololololol! Fuck you, Digger.

MattyFresh wrote:

Blanch32 wrote:

name one

Iowa's pg, Williams

Is he eveneeds the starter? if so, then I know why they didn't make the tourney this year

tGreenWay wrote:

tanfan! wrote:1979 nc game. A little guard named Terry donelly who really never shot much was left wide open like tum tum. Like balls of steal Terry took those wide open shots while they double teamed kelser or magic. Swooshed then all. Every one that I recall. Indiana state was toast.

That was one helluva fun title run. I was st Market Square Arena in Indy to see us boot LSU and then crush Digger's only hopes of a championship.

lolololololol! Fuck you, Digger.

That ND team was loaded. In my opinion, our biggest win of the tournament. Of course Magic Bird get all the attention, but they had no answer for us after Bird. That ND game was fucking awesome.

DWags wrote:

tanfan! wrote:1979 nc game. A little guard named Terry donelly who really never shot much was left wide open like tum tum. Like balls of steal Terry took those wide open shots while they double teamed kelser or magic. Swooshed then all.  Every one that I recall. Indiana state was toast.

Five for five. Five of six from the line. Averaged six a game had 15. Top ten in unsung hero of NCAA tournament.

Story from four years ago

Donnelley tears it up

How many close games we lost this year are wins if tum scored 8 to 12 a game? I just looked. Five more wins and we beat Minnesota and play another game in the btt.

tanfan! wrote:

DWags wrote:

Five for five. Five of six from the line. Averaged six a game had 15. Top ten in unsung hero of NCAA tournament.

Story from four years ago

Donnelley tears it up

How many close games we lost this year are wins if tum scored 8 to 12 a game?

Or winston or Ward guard somebody? Or Goins isn't Goins, or McQuaid is a better shot. We can kill ourselves Tanner. You can just blame Tum, that's fine, but the team is a year away, it was never going to be much better than this. It takes time for a team to grow, in the meantime it's aggravating to watch. You guys are specifically going after one guy. It's never that way. But I understand the need to do it. So be it.

DWags wrote:

tanfan! wrote:

How many close games we lost this year are wins if tum scored 8 to 12 a game?

Or winston or Ward guard somebody? Or Goins isn't Goins, or McQuaid is a better shot. We can kill ourselves Tanner. You can just blame Tum, that's fine, but the team is a year away, it was never going to be much better than this. It takes time for a team to grow, in the meantime it's aggravating to watch. You guys are specifically going after one guy. It's never that way. But I understand the need to do it. So be it.

The other two score and can get hot. Tum is worthless on the offensive side and we needed another guard to score this year. But we are a year away. Need a couple of bigs and bridges to return.

You go to war with the army that you have, not the army that you don't have.

tanfan! wrote:

DWags wrote:

Or winston or Ward guard somebody? Or Goins isn't Goins, or McQuaid is a better shot. We can kill ourselves Tanner. You can just blame Tum, that's fine, but the team is a year away, it was never going to be much better than this. It takes time for a team to grow, in the meantime it's aggravating to watch. You guys are specifically going after one guy. It's never that way. But I understand the need to do it. So be it.

The other two score and can get hot. Tum is worthless on the offensive side and we needed another guard to score this year. But we are a year away. Need a couple of bigs and bridges to return.

Sometimes you get what you wish for.

DWags wrote:

tanfan! wrote:

How many close games we lost this year are wins if tum scored 8 to 12 a game?

Or winston or Ward guard somebody? Or Goins isn't Goins, or McQuaid is a better shot. We can kill ourselves Tanner. You can just blame Tum, that's fine, but the team is a year away, it was never going to be much better than this. It takes time for a team to grow, in the meantime it's aggravating to watch. You guys are specifically going after one guy. It's never that way. But I understand the need to do it. So be it.

You seriously think we lost 14 games this year because of those two on D? LOLZ!!!!!

We suck because our offense is really bad. We rank 210 in points per game. We rank 287 in team free throw %. Not sure on turnovers but it's bad. We held Maryland and Minny to low enough point totals to win but offense let us down.

So we don't score a lot because we miss free throws and turn it over. But also because we have bad guard play.

This is Izzos worst offensive team he's ever had.

The_Dude wrote:We suck because our offense is really bad. We rank 210 in points per game. We rank 287 in team free throw %. Not sure on turnovers but it's bad. We held Maryland and Minny to low enough point totals to win but offense let us down.

So we don't score a lot because we miss free throws and turn it over. But also because we have bad guard play.

This is Izzos worst offensive team he's ever had.

You should be on ESPN.