How many media outlets will go back and apologize for their fake news?

LooseGoose wrote:The thread was about the Media's lies. There are already 1500 threads about Trump's lies.

But I'm sure you feel that Trump lying justifies the media lying to you.

GRR Spartan wrote:The media dosn't lie unless you only get the fucked up news feeds that evidently permeates the NE corner of Michigan's Lower Peninsula.


Any word on FoxNews firing any of the reporters or producers who were pushing the Seth Rich murder myth?

We’re told CNN flew into a panic on Friday after it accidentally aired a fake National Enquirer cover during Jake Tapper’s broadcast.

Tapper did a segment on his “The Lead” show about Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski’s claim that Donald Trump tried to blackmail them with a hit piece in the National Enquirer.

During the piece, it showed a cover from the tabloid, which seemed to be about a scandal involving GOP senator Ted Cruz and his wife, Heidi Cruz.

Unfortunately, the cover is — literally — fake news.

The cover — which has the headline “Heidi Cruz: Betrayed by Cheating Husband!” and promised details on a “sordid threesome, sleazy love letters and sensational photo proof — has never appeared on the National Enquirer, according to sources at the magazine.

LooseGoose wrote:And CNN again.....the beat goes on.

CNN screws up — again

We’re told CNN flew into a panic on Friday after it accidentally aired a fake National Enquirer cover during Jake Tapper’s broadcast.

Tapper did a segment on his “The Lead” show about Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski’s claim that Donald Trump tried to blackmail them with a hit piece in the National Enquirer.

During the piece, it showed a cover from the tabloid, which seemed to be about a scandal involving GOP senator Ted Cruz and his wife, Heidi Cruz.

Unfortunately, the cover is — literally — fake news.

The cover — which has the headline “Heidi Cruz: Betrayed by Cheating Husband!” and promised details on a “sordid threesome, sleazy love letters and sensational photo proof — has never appeared on the National Enquirer, according to sources at the magazine.

tGreenWay wrote:It's interesting how these fake news organizations are retracting stories, apologizing to its audiences, and holding staff accountable. It's almost as if they don't like getting stories wrong, which makes the errors unintentional and not intentional. Can the same be said for all the news outlets on the Right? And let's not forget how free, terrestrial radio is almost monopolized by RWNJ who almost never source stories or apologize when wrong... which is often. Trump? Never.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Has the gospel tribune issued their apology to Bernie sanders yet or no? Probably not. They're super comfortable lying through their teeth then acting holier than thou under the cover of religion but really they're just frauds.

LooseGoose wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:It's interesting how these fake news organizations are retracting stories, apologizing to its audiences, and holding staff accountable. It's almost as if they don't like getting stories wrong, which makes the errors unintentional and not intentional. Can the same be said for all the news outlets on the Right? And let's not forget how free, terrestrial radio is almost monopolized by RWNJ who almost never source stories or apologize when wrong... which is often. Trump? Never.

Let me know when they make an error in favor of Trump. The issue in the main is that the errors tend to be overwhelmingly against Trump and Rs in general.


And this isn't new...........


DEMOCRACY DIES IN MEMORY HOLES:

● Shot: Carl Bernstein calls for ‘different kind of reporting’ to take on ‘malignant presidency.’

—The Washington Examiner, today.

● Chaser: Carl Bernstein: Bush Has Done “Far Greater Damage” Than Nixon.

—TruthOut, January 24, 2007.

Related: “The lowest form of popular culture – lack of information, misinformation, disinformation, and a contempt for the truth or the reality of most people’s lives – has overrun real journalism. Today, ordinary Americans are being stuffed with garbage.”

—Carl Bernstein, 1992. Choose the form of your destructor.

Posted at 5:41 pm by Ed Driscoll

LooseGoose wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:It's interesting how these fake news organizations are retracting stories, apologizing to its audiences, and holding staff accountable. It's almost as if they don't like getting stories wrong, which makes the errors unintentional and not intentional. Can the same be said for all the news outlets on the Right? And let's not forget how free, terrestrial radio is almost monopolized by RWNJ who almost never source stories or apologize when wrong... which is often. Trump? Never.

Let me know when they make an error in favor of Trump. The issue in the main is that the errors tend to be overwhelmingly against Trump and Rs in general.


And this isn't new...........


DEMOCRACY DIES IN MEMORY HOLES:

● Shot: Carl Bernstein calls for ‘different kind of reporting’ to take on ‘malignant presidency.’

—The Washington Examiner, today.

● Chaser: Carl Bernstein: Bush Has Done “Far Greater Damage” Than Nixon.

—TruthOut, January 24, 2007.

Related: “The lowest form of popular culture – lack of information, misinformation, disinformation, and a contempt for the truth or the reality of most people’s lives – has overrun real journalism. Today, ordinary Americans are being stuffed with garbage.”

—Carl Bernstein, 1992. Choose the form of your destructor.

Posted at 5:41 pm by Ed Driscoll

A string of high-profile corrections and retractions by major news organizations on stories about President Trump or his allies have fueled more allegations of bias in the mainstream press.

The relationship between Trump and the news media regularly hits new lows, with insults flying between the two camps and reporters warning that the president is inciting violence against journalists.

But Trump’s allies on the right believe the president’s claims that the mainstream media is “fake news” have been bolstered by recent missteps. They point to recent admissions from top news outlets — including CNN, the New York Times and the Associated Press — that bombshell stories were either overcooked or included incorrect details.

Adding insult to injury: Breitbart News, the pro-Trump media outlet that is scorned by many in the mainstream press, has been fact-checking their mainstream counterparts with some success.

Breitbart’s Washington political editor Matthew Boyle was first to call into question a CNN story on alleged ties between a Trump associate and Russia that was later retracted. Boyle was also reporting on an error in an Associated Press report when the newswire corrected and later rewrote the story.

Together, the corrections and retractions amount to only a few stories out of the thousands published every day. But the high-profile nature of the errors hurts the media's credibility at a time when the press is under more scrutiny than ever before, giving new political ammunition to critics of the mainstream press.

Speaking on CNN's "New Day," Acosta wondered where Trump got the "three or four" figure, though it has been reported that out of 17 agencies, only the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, and the National Security Agency have formally drawn the conclusion about Russia.

"The other thing that was ‘fake news' coming from President Trump is when he said, well, I keep hearing it's 17 intelligence agencies that say Russia meddled in the election, I think it's only three or four," Acosta said. "Where does that number come from? Where does this 'three or four' number come from? My suspicion ... is that if we go to the administration and ask them for this question, I'm not so sure we're going to get an answer."

The New York Times last week, however, prominently corrected its own reporting on the matter.

In a story about Trump's "deflections and denials about Russia," it originally stated that "17 American intelligence agencies" concluded Russia had interfered in the election.

LooseGoose wrote:and Trump's big nemesis at CNN calls him out for fake news......and it turns out Trump is right and Acosta is wrong. Less grandstanding and more reporting might help him.

The Race To 2020 CNN's Jim Acosta gets fact about intelligence community's Russia assessment wrong, calls it 'fake news'

Speaking on CNN's "New Day," Acosta wondered where Trump got the "three or four" figure, though it has been reported that out of 17 agencies, only the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, and the National Security Agency have formally drawn the conclusion about Russia.

"The other thing that was ‘fake news' coming from President Trump is when he said, well, I keep hearing it's 17 intelligence agencies that say Russia meddled in the election, I think it's only three or four," Acosta said. "Where does that number come from? Where does this 'three or four' number come from? My suspicion ... is that if we go to the administration and ask them for this question, I'm not so sure we're going to get an answer."

The New York Times last week, however, prominently corrected its own reporting on the matter.

In a story about Trump's "deflections and denials about Russia," it originally stated that "17 American intelligence agencies" concluded Russia had interfered in the election.

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:and Trump's big nemesis at CNN calls him out for fake news......and it turns out Trump is right and Acosta is wrong. Less grandstanding and more reporting might help him.

The Race To 2020 CNN's Jim Acosta gets fact about intelligence community's Russia assessment wrong, calls it 'fake news'

, only the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, and the National Security Agency have formally drawn the conclusion about Russia

Only those four? Just the CIA FBI NSA? Just those? That's it?



Jesus.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:

, only the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, and the National Security Agency have formally drawn the conclusion about Russia

Only those four? Just the CIA FBI NSA? Just those? That's it?



Jesus.

So you prefer your reporting incorrect? With Dem math - 4=17?

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:and Trump's big nemesis at CNN calls him out for fake news......and it turns out Trump is right and Acosta is wrong. Less grandstanding and more reporting might help him.

The Race To 2020 CNN's Jim Acosta gets fact about intelligence community's Russia assessment wrong, calls it 'fake news'

, only the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, and the National Security Agency have formally drawn the conclusion about Russia

Only those four? Just the CIA FBI NSA? Just those? That's it?



Jesus.

Turtleneck wrote:The DNI oversees all members of the U.S. Intelligence Community.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/what-we-do/members-of-the-ic

tGreenWay wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:The DNI oversees all members of the U.S. Intelligence Community.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/what-we-do/members-of-the-ic

Thank you. Just came to post this. DNI is at the top of those other agencies.

LooseGoose wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:

Thank you. Just came to post this. DNI is at the top of those other agencies.

How does that change a thing?

Because it's above them doesn't mean all of them reviewed or reported the info.

It's a non fact.

A swerve.

It's "I don't like the facts so I'll try to change them".

LooseGoose wrote:The thread was about the Media's lies. There are already 1500 threads about Trump's lies.

But I'm sure you feel that Trump lying justifies the media lying to you.

LooseGoose wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:

Thank you. Just came to post this. DNI is at the top of those other agencies.

How does that change a thing?

Because it's above them doesn't mean all of them reviewed or reported the info.

It's a non fact.

A swerve.

It's "I don't like the facts so I'll try to change them".

tGreenWay wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

How does that change a thing?

Because it's above them doesn't mean all of them reviewed or reported the info.

It's a non fact.

A swerve.

It's "I don't like the facts so I'll try to change them".

Or, much more likely, after January 20 the narrative (sorry Floyd) changed. That's just a personal hunch, because I haven't gone back to look at the dates thst reporting changed from 17 to 3-4. I strongly suspect the figures changed because Trump and his advisors wanted it to change to look less of a slam dunk to the average dumbfuck Trumpanzees.

Turtleneck wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

How does that change a thing?

Because it's above them doesn't mean all of them reviewed or reported the info.

It's a non fact.

A swerve.

It's "I don't like the facts so I'll try to change them".

1. The real swerve is constant use of "only the...", as if those 3-4 agencies are meaningless members of the US Intelligence Community.
2. Because the DNI is responsible for intelligence integration and has 17 member agencies, I wonder if the number came from a flawed assumption that the DNI was reporting on behalf of all 17 members of the US Intelligence Community. Journalists should not make assumptions and should be shamed for doing so accordingly, but I am not sure this was an intentional effort to lie.
3. Clearly the 17 number is wrong, but in an effort to defend absolutely everything this administration does and says, you are way overstating your case.

DWags wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

1. The real swerve is constant use of "only the...", as if those 3-4 agencies are meaningless members of the US Intelligence Community.
2. Because the DNI is responsible for intelligence integration and has 17 member agencies, I wonder if the number came from a flawed assumption that the DNI was reporting on behalf of all 17 members of the US Intelligence Community. Journalists should not make assumptions and should be shamed for doing so accordingly, but I am not sure this was an intentional effort to lie.
3. Clearly the 17 number is wrong, but in an effort to defend absolutely everything this administration does and says, you are way overstating your case.

Seriously, it's insane to ignore the big three who are all in agreement on it. Insane.

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Thursday that only “three or four” of the United States’ 17 intelligence agencies had concluded that Russia interfered in the presidential election — a statement that while technically accurate, is misleading and suggests widespread dissent among American intelligence agencies when none has emerged.

The “three or four” agencies referred to by Mr. Trump are the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the F.B.I. and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, all of which determined that Russia interfered in the election. Their work was compiled into a report, and a declassified version was released on Jan. 6 by the director of national intelligence. It said that all four agencies had “high confidence” that Russian spies had tried to interfere in the election on the orders of President Vladimir V. Putin.

The reason the views of only those four intelligence agencies, not all 17, were included in the assessment is simple: They were the ones tracking and analyzing the Russian campaign. The rest were doing other work.

LooseGoose wrote:

tGreenWay wrote:

Thank you. Just came to post this. DNI is at the top of those other agencies.

How does that change a thing?

Because it's above them doesn't mean all of them reviewed or reported the info.

It's a non fact.

A swerve.

It's "I don't like the facts so I'll try to change them".

DWags wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

1. The real swerve is constant use of "only the...", as if those 3-4 agencies are meaningless members of the US Intelligence Community.
2. Because the DNI is responsible for intelligence integration and has 17 member agencies, I wonder if the number came from a flawed assumption that the DNI was reporting on behalf of all 17 members of the US Intelligence Community. Journalists should not make assumptions and should be shamed for doing so accordingly, but I am not sure this was an intentional effort to lie.
3. Clearly the 17 number is wrong, but in an effort to defend absolutely everything this administration does and says, you are way overstating your case.

Seriously, it's insane to ignore the big three who are all in agreement on it. Insane.

A sheriff in Missouri is firing back at a now-suspended newspaper columnist who claimed to experience what “minority motorists” must feel when getting pulled over by cops, saying he was lucky he didn’t “get shot” during a recent traffic stop.

Boone County Sheriff Dwayne Carey has refuted a June 30 opinion column by longtime Columbia Daily Tribune columnist Bill Clark, who was stopped 10 days earlier for failing to use his turn signal. Clark, an 84-year-old white man, suggested in the column that he might’ve been pulled over because of his “liberal bumper stickers,” an obvious sign of an “aging hippie with a weed habit,” he claimed.

“I’m lucky I didn’t get shot,” Clark wrote. “Sirens wailed and when I stopped, two officers were out of the sheriff’s vehicle. When I reached over to turn off the radio and then take my wallet out of my pocket to produce the driver’s license and insurance card, I realized my hands were not at the top of my steering wheel. Danger lurked and official arrogance was to follow.”

Clark, who claimed he received a “good dose of arrogance” during the stop, said he understands how someone could lose respect for cops after the stop, saying his life “seemed to be in danger” during the interaction with two deputies.

“When you are in the shoes of the minority, you learn a lot more about their journey,” Clark wrote.

But a review of dashcam video told a different story,

LooseGoose wrote:The struggle to make up a struggle continues.

Sheriff exposes white, liberal columnist’s traffic stop tale for the lie that it is

A sheriff in Missouri is firing back at a now-suspended newspaper columnist who claimed to experience what “minority motorists” must feel when getting pulled over by cops, saying he was lucky he didn’t “get shot” during a recent traffic stop.

Boone County Sheriff Dwayne Carey has refuted a June 30 opinion column by longtime Columbia Daily Tribune columnist Bill Clark, who was stopped 10 days earlier for failing to use his turn signal. Clark, an 84-year-old white man, suggested in the column that he might’ve been pulled over because of his “liberal bumper stickers,” an obvious sign of an “aging hippie with a weed habit,” he claimed.

“I’m lucky I didn’t get shot,” Clark wrote. “Sirens wailed and when I stopped, two officers were out of the sheriff’s vehicle. When I reached over to turn off the radio and then take my wallet out of my pocket to produce the driver’s license and insurance card, I realized my hands were not at the top of my steering wheel. Danger lurked and official arrogance was to follow.”

Clark, who claimed he received a “good dose of arrogance” during the stop, said he understands how someone could lose respect for cops after the stop, saying his life “seemed to be in danger” during the interaction with two deputies.

“When you are in the shoes of the minority, you learn a lot more about their journey,” Clark wrote.

But a review of dashcam video told a different story,

NigelUno wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:The struggle to make up a struggle continues.

Sheriff exposes white, liberal columnist’s traffic stop tale for the lie that it is

Is he a media "outlet"?

And he got pulled over for not signaling a right turn?

Well, it turns out that it was President Obama's own director of national intelligence, James Clapper, who gave Trump the 3-4 number. He confronted CNN's lack of journalistic integrity ... while on CNN! Clapper said:

"How this narrative got out there about 17 components being involved, I don’t know. But the report itself makes it clear that it was the three agencies plus the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that put this intelligence community assessment together."

LooseGoose wrote:James Clapper Confronts CNN's Narrative... While on CNN

Well, it turns out that it was President Obama's own director of national intelligence, James Clapper, who gave Trump the 3-4 number. He confronted CNN's lack of journalistic integrity ... while on CNN! Clapper said:

"How this narrative got out there about 17 components being involved, I don’t know. But the report itself makes it clear that it was the three agencies plus the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that put this intelligence community assessment together."