Spartan Swill
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

+8
NigelUno
Travis of the Cosmos
tGreenWay
GRR Spartan
Herbie Green
Rocinante
DWags
Turtleneck
12 posters

Page 3 of 5 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 12:13

Also under scrutiny is how forthcoming Mr. Kushner was with his father-in-law about the nature of the June meeting. He met with Mr. Trump to discuss the issue, according to advisers to the White House, around the time he updated his federal disclosure form to include Ms. Veselnitskaya’s name on a list of foreign contacts that Mr. Kushner was required to submit to the F.B.I. to obtain a security clearance.

Mr. Kushner supplemented the list of foreign contacts three times, adding more than 100 names, people close to him said.

Still has security clearance.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Guest Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 12:19

Turtleneck wrote:
Also under scrutiny is how forthcoming Mr. Kushner was with his father-in-law about the nature of the June meeting. He met with Mr. Trump to discuss the issue, according to advisers to the White House, around the time he updated his federal disclosure form to include Ms. Veselnitskaya’s name on a list of foreign contacts that Mr. Kushner was required to submit to the F.B.I. to obtain a security clearance.

Mr. Kushner supplemented the list of foreign contacts three times, adding more than 100 names, people close to him said.

Still has security clearance.

So your theory is that anyone that has extensive foreign contacts shouldn't have a security clearance? If that's wrong please expand and clarify.
Anonymous
Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by DWags Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 12:29

LooseGoose wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Still has security clearance.

So your theory is that anyone that has extensive foreign contacts shouldn't have a security clearance? If that's wrong please expand and clarify.


Anyone who lies or has to revise shit three times would put my antenna up, but I'm a Cold War child. Not as trusting as you. I mean he is the son in law of a guy you called a dumb ass. But hey, it's all good now.
DWags
DWags
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 50324
Join date : 2014-04-21
Age : 62
Location : Right here

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 12:43

LooseGoose wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

Still has security clearance.

So your theory is that anyone that has extensive foreign contacts shouldn't have a security clearance? If that's wrong please expand and clarify.

No.

Too often he has failed to disclose contacts with foreign agents. The latest meeting should have absolutely been disclosed. The process by which security clearance is obtained identifies both the vital importance of listing contacts with foreign agents, as well as the consequences for failing to do so. Based on the premis of the June 2016 meeting, there is no excuse for the meeting not to have been disclosed. More importantly, if we are now at three revisions with over 100 additions, he has unquestionably and knowingly violated the rules by which security clearance is obtained.

There is also the matter of his conflicts of interests, and how security clearance might be a source of leverage in his personal finances. For example, how his family attempted to solicit money from Qatar for a development project. These waters are murky, and this is not as cut and dry as his clear failure to respect the rules that govern security clearance.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 14:28

Democratic congressmen on the House Judiciary Committee want to know why Attorney General Jeff Sessions abruptly settled a money laundering case in May involving the same Russian attorney who met with Donald Trump Jr. during the presidential election to offer “dirt” on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

The civil forfeiture case was filed in 2013 by Preet Bharara, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York — who was fired by Trump in March. The case alleged that 11 companies were involved in a tax fraud in Russia and then laundered a portion of the $230 million they got into Manhattan real estate.

The forfeiture case was heralded at the time as “a significant step towards uncovering and unwinding a complex money laundering scheme arising from a notorious foreign fraud,” Bharara said. “As alleged, a Russian criminal enterprise sought to launder some of its billions in ill-gotten rubles through the purchase of pricey Manhattan real estate.”

But Instead of proceeding with the trial as scheduled, the Trump Justice Department settled the case two days before it was due to begin. By then, Bharara had already been axed by the president. Bharara’s assistant did not immediately respond to request for comment.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/12/doj-settled-massive-russian-fraud-case-involving-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr/?utm_content=buffera9206&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by DWags Thu 13 Jul 2017 - 14:34

Turtleneck wrote:
Democratic congressmen on the House Judiciary Committee want to know why Attorney General Jeff Sessions abruptly settled a money laundering case in May involving the same Russian attorney who met with Donald Trump Jr. during the presidential election to offer “dirt” on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

The civil forfeiture case was filed in 2013 by Preet Bharara, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York — who was fired by Trump in March. The case alleged that 11 companies were involved in a tax fraud in Russia and then laundered a portion of the $230 million they got into Manhattan real estate.

The forfeiture case was heralded at the time as “a significant step towards uncovering and unwinding a complex money laundering scheme arising from a notorious foreign fraud,” Bharara said. “As alleged, a Russian criminal enterprise sought to launder some of its billions in ill-gotten rubles through the purchase of pricey Manhattan real estate.”

But Instead of proceeding with the trial as scheduled, the Trump Justice Department settled the case two days before it was due to begin. By then, Bharara had already been axed by the president. Bharara’s assistant did not immediately respond to request for comment.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/12/doj-settled-massive-russian-fraud-case-involving-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr/?utm_content=buffera9206&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


We'll find out this is much worse. NYTimes will bleed Trump and the trumpettes slowly.
DWags
DWags
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 50324
Join date : 2014-04-21
Age : 62
Location : Right here

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 9:53

WASHINGTON — The Russian lawyer who met with the Trump team after a promise of compromising material on Hillary Clinton was accompanied by a Russian-American lobbyist — a former Soviet counter intelligence officer who is suspected by some U.S. officials of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, NBC News has learned.

NBC News is not naming the lobbyist, who denies any current ties to Russian spy agencies. He accompanied the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, to the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-lawyer-brought-ex-soviet-counter-intelligence-officer-trump-team-n782851
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by DWags Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 11:46

I think I said this in another thread: I'll bet anyone the NYTimes has so much shit right now it's not funny. They'll slow play the hell out of this.
DWags
DWags
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 50324
Join date : 2014-04-21
Age : 62
Location : Right here

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 11:49

DWags wrote:I think I said this in another thread:  I'll bet anyone the NYTimes has so much shit right now it's not funny.   They'll slow play the hell out of this.

If the NYT has more evidence, evidence that seriously moves the case in the direction of criminal collusion, that means Mueller must be finding quite a bit. I would think that if a paper was to present verifiable and hard evidence of wrongdoing, the actual investigators would have even more.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Herbie Green Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 12:31

Hard to get much hard evidence in this kind of instance where that evidence has to come from the mouths of either Trumps or Russians.
Herbie Green
Herbie Green
Spartiate

Posts : 5404
Join date : 2014-05-11

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 14:07

To understand the roots of the collusion, set aside Putin and follow the money.

In the endless pursuit of the Russia-Trump collusion story, we sometimes forget a key element: this whole mess began with money, not with election interference. The connections between Trump and Russia were forged years ago, well before he developed any serious political inspirations, and were focused on the shady schemes of Russian oligarchs and their dealings with Trump. Understanding the roots of the collusion means setting aside the usual narrative – Putin wants to destroy American democracy – and following the money first.

In 2015, for example, Trump Taj Mahal settled a federal case that accused it of being involved in Russian money laundering. Trump has been doing business with Russian oligarchs like the Alagarovs for years; it’s possible their money may have even kept him out of bankruptcy. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Jr., said in 2008. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

Trump’s Russian business partners despise the 2012 Magnitsky Act, which limits their ability to do business abroad, and would like nothing better than to see it repealed. Trump’s unexpected election gave Russian oligarchs a chance to claw back their losses: end the sanctions, cancel the Magnitsky Act, and settle the Prevezon case.

The Prevezon case may not be familiar territory yet, but it’s likely to be an important part of the Mueller investigation. Essentially, it is a holding company linked to the Russian elite, accused of laundering hundreds of millions of dollars through New York City real estate. It is also part of the giant tax-fraud scheme that Magnitsky uncovered in 2008, leading to his death.

What all this means is that Putin may not even be the protagonist of the story. The “disrupting American democracy” narrative we often hear may have been the cherry on top, not the main goal. It may even be a side effect of a process that Putin did not initiate and was unaware of, and which is now backfiring for Russia. There is sometimes a tendency to see Putin as a mastermind with his tentacles in every corner of his country (and beyond), but the Russian government is more decentralized (and disorganized) than we think. That is not to say that the hacking and troll campaigns aren’t real or important – only that Trump’s ties to Russia are rooted in something else.

Even Putin has important supporters to keep in mind, people who have begun to itch after seventeen years of his rule and are deeply unhappy about the sanctions. Wherever the story goes, Trump’s financial linkages to Russian billionaires will be at the center.

http://duckofminerva.com/2017/07/trump-and-the-russian-money-trail.html
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 14:24

Donald Trump Jr. is seeking to write off as a nonevent his meeting last year with a Russian lawyer who was said to have damaging information about Hillary Clinton. “It was such a nothing,” he told Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Tuesday. “There was nothing to tell.”

But everything we know about the meeting — from whom it involved to how it was set up to how it unfolded — is in line with what intelligence analysts would expect an overture in a Russian influence operation to look like. It bears all the hallmarks of a professionally planned, carefully orchestrated intelligence soft pitch designed to gauge receptivity, while leaving room for plausible deniability in case the approach is rejected. And the Trump campaign’s willingness to take the meeting — and, more important, its failure to report the episode to U.S. authorities — may have been exactly the green light Russia was looking for to launch a more aggressive phase of intervention in the U.S. election campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trump-jrs-russia-meeting-sure-sounds-like-a-russian-intelligence-operation/2017/07/14/5f7f3dfe-6762-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f_story.html?utm_term=.4da367e9f60f
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 16:38

Adam Goldman‏Verified account
@adamgoldmanNYT
Will identify the last person at the meeting shortly



Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 16:59

Turtleneck wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

So your theory is that anyone that has extensive foreign contacts shouldn't have a security clearance?  If that's wrong please expand and clarify.

No.

Too often he has failed to disclose contacts with foreign agents. The latest meeting should have absolutely been disclosed. The process by which security clearance is obtained identifies both the vital importance of listing contacts with foreign agents, as well as the consequences for failing to do so. Based on the premis of the June 2016 meeting, there is no excuse for the meeting not to have been disclosed. More importantly, if we are now at three revisions with over 100 additions, he has unquestionably and knowingly violated the rules by which security clearance is obtained.

There is also the matter of his conflicts of interests, and how security clearance might be a source of leverage in his personal finances. For example, how his family attempted to solicit money from Qatar for a development project. These waters are murky, and this is not as cut and dry as his clear failure to respect the rules that govern security clearance.

Comments made by Representative Beyer via Twitter.

Rep. Don Beyer‏Verified account @RepDonBeyer  51m51 minutes ago
Rep. Don Beyer
Jared Kushner's updates to his security clearance form related to this Russia meeting raise new questions about his wife, Ivanka Trump 1/

That form, the SF-86, which I completed for a diplomatic post in the Obama Administration, contains directions which we must now consider 2/

The SF-86 requires declaration of all foreign contacts by the clearance holder "or your spouse." Ivanka Trump's spouse is Jared Kushner. 3/
Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 DEuIaVQXoAE6AsT

When Ivanka Trump received her top secret security clearance and filled out an SF-86, Kushner's contacts mattered 4/

Kushner updated his SF-86 3 times, most recently to include the June 2016 meeting w/ Russian lawyer Veselnitskaya 5/

That meeting, as we now know, was offered by people connected to Putin as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump." 6/

Did Ivanka Trump include that meeting on her SF-86 to obtain a security clearance, as part of her disclosure of her husband's contacts? 7/

If she did not declare it before, has Ivanka Trump's SF-86 been updated to include disclosure of this meeting which her husband attended? 8/

Has she updated her security clearance paperwork to reflect the other meetings and contacts Jared Kushner originally failed to disclose? 9/

Ivanka Trump is an adviser to the President of the United States. We hold people in such a position to a very high standard. 10/

That standard requires that we get answers to these questions about Ivanka Trump. I intend to raise them with the Trump Administration. 11/

If the President wants his family to run the government, they must be held to the same high standard as any other government official. 12/12

In his tweet thread, he included the following link among others:

Dems want scrutiny of Ivanka Trump over Kushner’s Russian contacts
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/14/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-russia-democrats-240569
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 20:28

U.S. officials probing Russian lobbyist who met Trump team:
Investigators are concerned about a suspected Russian intelligence operative's role in a controversial 2016 meeting arranged by Donald Trump Jr.

U.S. officials are examining what role a Washington-based lobbyist who they consider a Russian intelligence operative may have played in a controversial June 2016 meeting he attended between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer.

Rinat Akhmetshin, a dual U.S.-Russia citizen, told The Associated Press on Friday that he attended the meeting at Trump Tower between Trump’s son and Natalia Veselnitskaya, a politically connected Russian lawyer who the Trump team believed had damaging information about Hillary Clinton. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and then-campaign manager Paul Manafort also attended the meeting, which was arranged by Trump Jr.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/14/russia-lobbyist-rinat-akhmetshin-us-investigation-240562
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 20:40

Turtleneck wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

So your theory is that anyone that has extensive foreign contacts shouldn't have a security clearance? If that's wrong please expand and clarify.

No.

Too often he has failed to disclose contacts with foreign agents. The latest meeting should have absolutely been disclosed. The process by which security clearance is obtained identifies both the vital importance of listing contacts with foreign agents, as well as the consequences for failing to do so. Based on the premis of the June 2016 meeting, there is no excuse for the meeting not to have been disclosed. More importantly, if we are now at three revisions with over 100 additions, he has unquestionably and knowingly violated the rules by which security clearance is obtained.

There is also the matter of his conflicts of interests, and how security clearance might be a source of leverage in his personal finances. For example, how his family attempted to solicit money from Qatar for a development project. These waters are murky, and this is not as cut and dry as his clear failure to respect the rules that govern security clearance.

Kushner’s lawyers say he mistakenly left meetings with the Russians off his security forms twice
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/14/15971508/kushner-lawyers-russian-meetings-security-clearance-forms

Even if it was an honest mistake, which it was not considering it has had to be revised three times, that level of carelessness suggests you are not fit for your position or security clearance.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 14 Jul 2017 - 21:44

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/14/why-does-jared-kushner-still-have-a-security-clearance-215378

Why Does Jared Kushner Still Have a Security Clearance? Anyone else would have been fired long ago, if not worse.

With nearly each passing day, the public learns more sordid details of the Russia scandal engulfing the Trump administration. It’s far from clear just how deep the Russia affair goes; in today’s climate, one progressive’s collusion is a conservative’s perfunctory opposition research meeting. As with much in our polarized society, much lies in the eye of the beholder.

But the latest revelations undeniably have raised additional questions about the judgment of key figures in President Trump’s orbit, namely his eldest son Donald Jr., his former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and his son-in-law Jared Kushner. Only Kushner, however, holds an administration position and, as a result, a Top Secret security clearance.


Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Sat 15 Jul 2017 - 11:20

More on the Democratic setup job

While Veselnitskaya was not allowed to testify in Congress, she did secure a prime, front-row seat for a June 14 hearing in the House on Russia-related issues.

Her high-profile spot in the room gained notice this week with the circulation of a photo in which she looms over the shoulder of former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, an adviser to President Barack Obama and a witness before the panel. Some conservative blogs this week have said the photo suggests she had accompanied McFaul and was a Democratic plant.

In fact, her seat had been reserved for her by a Republican consultant with close ties to the Trump campaign.

Lanny Wiles, whose wife, Susie, was then chairing the Trump campaign in Florida, said in an interview that he came early to scout out the seat and was there at the request of Akhmetshin, with whom he was working as a consultant on the sanctions-related adoption issue.

Lanny and Susie Wiles both said she was unaware of his role in the lobbying effort. Lanny Wiles said he was unaware that the Russian lawyer whose seat he was saving had just days earlier met with Trump Jr.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/russian-american-lobbyist-was-present-at-trump-jrs-meeting-with-kremlin-connected-lawyer/2017/07/14/1b96f25a-68aa-11e7-9928-22d00a47778f_story.html?utm_term=.2e6e2cc7d1ae
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Sat 15 Jul 2017 - 19:39

And yet some of the information that has dribbled out over the course of the day suggests even more than this. The meeting may well have gone beyond the simple feeling-out process Mowatt-Larssen describes. One of the attendees at the meeting turns out to be Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer who U.S. authorities believe has continued ties to Russian intelligence. Akhmetshin has been accused in federal court of “hacking into two computer systems and stealing sensitive and confidential materials as part of an alleged black-ops smear campaign,” reports the Daily Beast, which cited court records.


Akhmetshin, who attended the meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, has provided the alibi (of sorts) that he offered to share “printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee.” Chuck Ross points out that, nine days after the meeting, Guccifer 2.0 published materials meeting precisely that description.

So the meeting at Trump Tower, which was held on the explicit promise of furthering Russian support for the Trump campaign, included a hacker, and the materials the Russians say they brought were among those published by the Russian hacking cutout.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/the-trump-tower-russian-meeting-gets-way-more-suspicious.html
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by DWags Sat 15 Jul 2017 - 20:29

Turtleneck wrote:And yet some of the information that has dribbled out over the course of the day suggests even more than this. The meeting may well have gone beyond the simple feeling-out process Mowatt-Larssen describes. One of the attendees at the meeting turns out to be Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer who U.S. authorities believe has continued ties to Russian intelligence. Akhmetshin has been accused in federal court of “hacking into two computer systems and stealing sensitive and confidential materials as part of an alleged black-ops smear campaign,” reports the Daily Beast, which cited court records.


Akhmetshin, who attended the meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, has provided the alibi (of sorts) that he offered to share “printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee.” Chuck Ross points out that, nine days after the meeting, Guccifer 2.0 published materials meeting precisely that description.

So the meeting at Trump Tower, which was held on the explicit promise of furthering Russian support for the Trump campaign, included a hacker, and the materials the Russians say they brought were among those published by the Russian hacking cutout.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/the-trump-tower-russian-meeting-gets-way-more-suspicious.html

Dollar to a donut this gets way worse.
DWags
DWags
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 50324
Join date : 2014-04-21
Age : 62
Location : Right here

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by NigelUno Sat 15 Jul 2017 - 22:25

Turtleneck wrote:And yet some of the information that has dribbled out over the course of the day suggests even more than this. The meeting may well have gone beyond the simple feeling-out process Mowatt-Larssen describes. One of the attendees at the meeting turns out to be Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer who U.S. authorities believe has continued ties to Russian intelligence. Akhmetshin has been accused in federal court of “hacking into two computer systems and stealing sensitive and confidential materials as part of an alleged black-ops smear campaign,” reports the Daily Beast, which cited court records.


Akhmetshin, who attended the meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, has provided the alibi (of sorts) that he offered to share “printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee.” Chuck Ross points out that, nine days after the meeting, Guccifer 2.0 published materials meeting precisely that description.

So the meeting at Trump Tower, which was held on the explicit promise of furthering Russian support for the Trump campaign, included a hacker, and the materials the Russians say they brought were among those published by the Russian hacking cutout.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/the-trump-tower-russian-meeting-gets-way-more-suspicious.html

But, Goose said she was a Dem plant at that meeting.
avatar
NigelUno
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 34459
Join date : 2014-04-16

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 18 Jul 2017 - 10:14


A New Front Opens in L'Affaire Russe
https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-front-opens-laffaire-russe


Don't look now, but a new front has opened in L'Affaire Russe. It will be a quiet one at first, but I suspect it won't stay quiet for long.

The new front is civil litigation.

Last week, a group called United to Protect Democracy filed suit against the Trump campaign and Roger Stone on behalf of three people whose emails and personal information were among the material stolen by the Russians and disclosed to Wikileaks. The suit alleges that the campaign and Stone conspired with the Russians to release information about the plaintiffs—who are not public figures—in a fashion that violates their privacy rights under D.C. law. and intimidates them out of political advocacy.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 18 Jul 2017 - 14:47

The 8th person at the meeting has been identified...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/eighth-person-in-trump-tower-meeting-is-identified/2017/07/18/e971234a-6bce-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?utm_term=.b1f8b5152865


An American-based employee of a Russian real estate company took part in a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between a Russian lawyer and Donald Trump Jr., bringing to eight the number of known participants at the session that has emerged as a key focus of the investigation of the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russians.

Ike Kaveladze’s presence was confirmed by Scott Balber, an attorney for Emin and Aras Agalarov, the Russian developers who hosted the Trump-owned Miss Universe pageant in 2013. Balber said Kaveladze works for the Agalarovs’ company and attended as their representative.

...and he does not seem suspicious at all...

A Congressional inquiry has found that it is ''relatively easy'' for foreigners to hide their identities and form shell companies here that can launder money through American banks.

In a a nine-month inquiry that subpoenaed bank records, the investigators found that an unknown number of Russians and other East Europeans moved more than $1.4 billion through accounts at Citibank of New York and the Commercial Bank of San Francisco.

The accounts had been opened by Irakly Kaveladze, who immigrated to the United States from Russia in 1991, according to Citibank and Mr. Kaveladze. He set up more than 2,000 corporations in Delaware for Russian brokers and then opened the bank accounts for them, without knowing who owned the corporations, according to the report by the General Accounting Office, which has not been made public.

The report said the banks had failed to conduct any ''due diligence'' into identifying the owners of the accounts.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2000/11/29/business/laundering-of-money-seen-as-easy.html
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 18 Jul 2017 - 16:40

“Set aside Putin and follow the money”: a Russia expert’s theory of the Trump scandal

Gunitsky, who was raised in Russia, has followed the evolving relationship between Donald Trump and Russia for more than a decade. He says the prevailing narrative about Putin interfering in the American election in order to undermine democracy is wildly overstated.

Putin is happy to sow confusion and distrust in America’s system, of course, but to assume that’s the basis of this operation is to overlook a much simpler motive: money.

The financial connections between Trump and various Russian banks and oligarchs (business elites with ties to the Kremlin) stretch back decades, which is likely a big reason why Trump won’t release his tax returns. Trump’s election, Gunitsky contends, presented Russian oligarchs with an opportunity to recoup losses and leverage Trump’s debts for political gain.

I asked Gunitsky to lay it out for me as clearly as possible, and to explain the financial dealings between Trump and his Russian business partners.

https://www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-natalia-veselnitskaya-collusion
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 18 Jul 2017 - 18:00

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 DFDFuIfXUAA2tnq
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 21 Jul 2017 - 20:14

National Security
Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-discussed-trump-campaign-related-matters-with-russian-ambassador-us-intelligence-intercepts-show/2017/07/21/3e704692-6e44-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?utm_term=.00b9a2bd3e39
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Fri 21 Jul 2017 - 20:25

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Img_4810
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Sat 22 Jul 2017 - 9:13

This whole things has prompted a nice little Saturday morning Twitter meltdown by 45.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Sat 22 Jul 2017 - 9:27

Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias 11h11 hours ago
Look, just because Sessions hasn't actually been convicted of a crime is no reason we can't start seizing his property now.

-----------

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 502811600
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Sat 22 Jul 2017 - 9:36

Richard W. Painter‏ @RWPUSA 14h14 hours ago
This is a mess. Trump could use this as an excuse to fire Sessions and appoint someone else who will fire Mueller.

Richard W. Painter‏ @RWPUSA 14h14 hours ago
Sessions story is suspicious. Trump wants him fired for not recusing on Russia. Sonebody leaked intel to get him fired.

Richard W. Painter‏ @RWPUSA 13h
Either Sessions lied or he is being framed so they can get rid of him and fire Mueller. Which is it FOX News?
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Cameron Sat 22 Jul 2017 - 9:52

Turtleneck wrote:Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias 11h11 hours ago
Look, just because Sessions hasn't actually been convicted of a crime is no reason we can't start seizing his property now.

-----------

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 502811600

Even Goose should be able to appreciate that one.
Cameron
Cameron
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 11032
Join date : 2014-04-16
Age : 35
Location : Michigan

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Mon 24 Jul 2017 - 7:32

Kusher releases statement to Congress committees.

READ: Jared Kushner's statement on Russia to congressional committees
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/24/politics/jared-kushner-statement-russia-2016-election/index.html
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 13:37

Niels Lesniewski‏ @nielslesniewski 1m1 minute ago
Carl Levin has informed Mueller, Burr & Warner that he's got information on Iraky Kaveladze from a 2000 PSI money laundering investigation.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 13:49

Turtleneck wrote:Niels Lesniewski‏ @nielslesniewski 1m1 minute ago
Carl Levin has informed Mueller, Burr & Warner that he's got information on Iraky Kaveladze from a 2000 PSI money laundering investigation.

Isn't PSI the guy from Gangem Style?
Travis of the Cosmos
Travis of the Cosmos
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 31458
Join date : 2014-04-15
Age : 40
Location : Please cease horny posting

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 13:51

Pounds per square inch, Travis.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Mon 31 Jul 2017 - 20:01

Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

On the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Germany this month, President Trump’s advisers discussed how to respond to a new revelation that Trump’s oldest son had met with a Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign — a disclosure the advisers knew carried political and potentially legal peril.

The strategy, the advisers agreed, should be for Donald Trump Jr. to release a statement to get ahead of the story. They wanted to be truthful, so their account couldn’t be repudiated later if the full details emerged.

But within hours, at the president’s direction, the plan changed.

Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said he and the Russian lawyer had “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children” when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations. The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared a story, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was “not a campaign issue at the time.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.c430122a011e
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Herbie Green Mon 31 Jul 2017 - 23:49

Didng Turtleneck say the other day he wasnt posting about the Russian investigation?  Or was that somebody else?
Herbie Green
Herbie Green
Spartiate

Posts : 5404
Join date : 2014-05-11

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 1 Aug 2017 - 0:00

Herbie Green wrote:Didng Turtleneck say the other day he wasnt posting about the Russian investigation?  Or was that somebody else?

No, that is not what Turtleneck said.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 1 Aug 2017 - 0:01

Turtleneck wrote:

1) I never participated in any of the Russia threads until the Lawfare piece was posted last month, and then started a new thread and have said multiple times this whole Russia thing needs to be approached on a "wait and see" basis.
2) So basically you admit to doing what you have long criticized others for doing...yet continually call other posters hypocrites every chance you get.
3) You are unhinged. Please consult a doctor.
Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Turtleneck Tue 1 Aug 2017 - 0:09

Jon Passantino‏Verified account
@passantino
ABC has two senior sources confirming the Post report Trump dictated the misleading Don Jr statement

Turtleneck
Turtleneck
Geronte
Geronte

Posts : 42496
Join date : 2014-04-22

Back to top Go down

Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn) - Page 3 Empty Re: Lawfare just dropped an interesting story (re: yesterday's WSJ reports about a GOP operative and Flynn)

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 3 of 5 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum